---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 06/09/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Flap cross tube problem (William Daniell) 2. 07:36 AM - Trailer for XS tri (William Daniell) 3. 12:03 PM - Arplast pv 50 (Kevin Kedward) 4. 12:56 PM - Re: Trailer for XS tri (Steven Pitt) 5. 02:59 PM - Re: Re: Flap cross tube problem (Greg Fuchs) 6. 02:59 PM - Re: Re: Flap cross tube (Greg Fuchs) 7. 04:03 PM - Re: Arplast pv 50 (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 8. 05:00 PM - Re: Flap cross tube (rparigoris) 9. 05:00 PM - Arplast (Kevin Kedward) 10. 11:21 PM - Re : Arplast pv 50 (NEEL Jean Philippe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:46 AM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube problem I used strong aluminum angle bolted to the two flap hinge arms and the cross tube hinges using 4 identically drilled brackets of the same stuff. If that makes sense. It held everything aligned while the glue was drying. Although not flying yet my digital level shows that the flaps have the same angle and deploy identically throughout the range. Will -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Maynor Sent: 08 June, 2011 16:46 Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube problem Greg and those interested, I remember using a trick to line up my flap cross tube hinges so very long ago. Don't recall every detail but it involved using AN bolts the size that the hinges pivot on, drilled holes in them lengthwise, the diameter of some twine or fishing line that was very strong, threading the line through the hinges and pulling it tight between both the flaps, letting the already reduxed hinges and spacers align themselves. Pack a good fillet of redux around the hinge mounts and left it to cure. Maybe you can figure out what else I did or come up with your own way. The key though was letting the hinges self align on the wet redux so that the string was absolutely straight. Troy Maynor Europa Monowheel Classic #120 96 hours and climbing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342444#342444 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:43 AM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: Europa-List: Trailer for XS tri I am sure that someone has asked this but how do I get plans for a trailer for an XS tri? Yours Will ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:14 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Arplast pv 50 From: Kevin Kedward Hi guys, does anybody know if Arplast (france)are still trading, or who is supporting the spares ? Regards Kevin G-okev Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:13 PM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer for XS tri Will, Are you going to be at Sywell next weekend as there should be two trigear trailers there. Otherwise come and talk to me and Ian Rickard at Popham AGM weekend in July. Regards Steve Pitt ----- Original Message ----- From: William Daniell To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 3:33 PM Subject: Europa-List: Trailer for XS tri I am sure that someone has asked this but how do I get plans for a trailer for an XS tri? Yours Will ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:07 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube problem Thanks for the info Troy, There are sure a lot of great techniques out there! Were the AN bolts cut into fairly short cross sections? Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- Greg and those interested, I remember using a trick to line up my flap cross tube hinges so very long ago. Don't recall every detail but it involved using AN bolts the size that the hinges pivot on, drilled holes in them lengthwise, the diameter of some twine or fishing line that was very strong, threading the line through the hinges and pulling it tight between both the flaps, letting the already reduxed hinges and spacers align themselves. Pack a good fillet of redux around the hinge mounts and left it to cure. Maybe you can figure out what else I did or come up with your own way. The key though was letting the hinges self align on the wet redux so that the string was absolutely straight. Troy Maynor Europa Monowheel Classic #120 96 hours and climbing ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:07 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube There a lot of pics and great wing pin/flap documentation there, Ron! It will take me awhile to go through it with my micro-tooth comb :) >Boy some portions were thin on my spar ramps, I liked using Tufnal and Reduxing it in place. Noted. Just in case I cannot get HDPE or nylon spacers to work...where did you get your extra Tufnol? ..Apologies if this has been discussed already on the server. >I found that making ramps for wing spar bushings and cowbell entrances really helped out a lot I will look into this. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigoris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:14 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Arplast pv 50 Kevin=0Aafaik they are still trading but are fed up with UK bureaucracy. I suggest you =0Atalk to them directly, preferably in French. The prop busine ss is run by Alain =0APetit's daughter Laeticia. She does speak some Englis h but isn't comfortable =0Awith our language. =0A=0ATry a respectful / non threatening email to them ; arplast HELICE SARL LAETITIA =0A=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ke vin Kedward =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, 9 June, 2011 19:59:50=0ASubject: Europa-List: Arplast pv 50=0A=0A =0A=0AHi guys, does anybody know if Arplast (france)are still trading, or w ho is =0Asupporting the spares ? Regards Kevin G-okev =0A=0ASent from my iP ================= ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube From: "rparigoris" Hi Greg I purchased Tufnal from my favorite company www.mcmaster.com Search: pheonelic page 3585 to 3589 I probably selected the more easily to machine LE linen grade on page 3585 part#6842K22. BTW I used G-11 for the ceiling panel (removable) it is very slightly more dimensional stable than G-10. I forget it was either 1/16" or possible 1/13". You can probably find details on my gallery. It was half the thickness of the factory supplied panel but way more dimensional stable. The one sold to me by the factory was polyester and after I fitted it, it warped way out of shape. that said i think they now supply epoxy resin glass panels? I use G-1o for many tasks in europa build. It is fiberglass instead of paper or linen. kinda like mil spec circuit board material. it bonds well with redux or Aeropoxy. I used it for mass balance guides and many other instances. It is sold in tubes and solid rods and machines OK. Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342554#342554 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:55 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Arplast From: Kevin Kedward Hi Graham, tried the e-mail route but no joy. Phoned but can't get them. Have you a new phone number ? Regards Kevin Ps hope you are well Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:53 PM PST US From: NEEL Jean Philippe Subject: Re : Europa-List: Arplast pv 50 Bonjour Kevin=0AI am ready to help you off list=0AJPN F-PSLH=0A=0ADe-: Ke vin Kedward =0A=C0-: europa-list@matronics.com=0AEn voy=E9 le : Jeudi 9 Juin 2011 20h59=0AObjet-: Europa-List: Arplast pv 50 k>=0A=0A=0AHi guys, does anybody know if Arplast (france)are still trading, or who is supporting the spares ? 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