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1. 06:06 AM - Vaccum pad alternator (William Daniell)
2. 06:51 AM - Oil filter-Roger Lee (Fergus Kyle)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: Vaccum pad alternator (Robert Borger)
4. 08:35 AM - Re: Vaccum pad alternator (Frans Veldman)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: FW: Wings and Wheels Weekend (Bob Harrison)
6. 09:14 AM - Re: Vaccum pad alternator (William Daniell)
7. 09:14 AM - Re: Vaccum pad alternator (William Daniell)
8. 10:00 AM - Re: Vaccum pad alternator (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
9. 12:31 PM - Final Inspection Checklist (John Greenhalgh)
10. 04:19 PM - Re: Final Inspection Checklist (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | Vaccum pad alternator |
Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?
http://www.bandc.biz/pdfs/quickfacts_sd20.pdf
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| Subject: | Oil filter-Roger Lee |
Roger,
I have a Champion oil filter from factory on my 914 which is
octagonal in shape (that is not having a smaller hex drive on 'top') and
cannot shift it. I need to half-fill it to inaugurate the oil system. Can
one still get a 3"+/- hex wrench to fit it or can I use some sort of heat
treatment to make it lose its grip? I understand later versions have an
easier method of rotating.....
Cheers, Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Vaccum pad alternator |
William,
I have an alternator mounted to the vacuum pad. It is supposed to be rated around
40 amps but in this installation it probably is rpm limited to around 25 amps.
Nothing to sneeze at considering the Rotax alternator is rated at 15 amps
and you don't want to run it at that output for very long. Consequently, I
use the vacuum pad alternator as my primary electrical source for the aircraft.
Only 25 hours on it so far, but it as performed flawlessly.
You can see pictures on my Europa Owners gallery. Some overall pics of the package
under "Mods and other hardware things -- 2nd Alternator Kit." This kit was
purchased from Flight Crafters (Bob & Russ) about a year after I received the
Europa Kit and I don't believe they sell these any more.
Looking at the specs for the B&C unit, I don't see why it wouldn't work just as
well as long as you have the accessory drive gear on your gearbox. I have used
great quantities of B&C equipment on Little Toot Sport Biplanes I have helped
build in the past and I plan to use a lot of their equipment on the Toot I
am presently building for myself.
I'll be happy to dig up or take pictures of my installation if you would like.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
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Europa Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:02, William Daniell wrote:
> Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?
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> http://www.bandc.biz/pdfs/quickfacts_sd20.pdf
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| Subject: | Re: Vaccum pad alternator |
On 06/16/2011 03:02 PM, William Daniell wrote:
> Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?
I have one. If you go that route, I would recommend you to split your
battery into two smaller ones, so you have two totally independent
electrical systems. This gives total redundancy, if you fry one system
you still have the other. Logically you have to distribute your
appliances wisely over the two independent buses to get the most out of
this redundancy.
Keep in mind though that this alternator on the Rotax starts generating
power only at 2500 rpm or above. below that it consumes 4 amps for the
field but doesn't produce anything in return. It really starts to come
alive at 3000 rpm or more.
Make sure to order the short version of this alternator. And note that
you can't use the Rotax factory shroud in combination with this alternator.
Frans
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| Subject: | FW: Wings and Wheels Weekend |
Hi! Ivor
Don't worry about the second document it seems to come through a lot just
some kind of ee-mail system back up..........(well that makes it look like I
know what I'm talking about !
BTW is Mona coming with you ? I have a spare Saturday Night event ticket
to use up.
Regards
Bob H
PS Just got a gearbox slide hammer rig made up for pulling the gear box.
Regards
Bob.
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PHILLIPS I
Sent: 16 June 2011 07:44
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Wings and Wheels Weekend
Hi Bob
There doesnt appear to be any information on the second document ATT00007
but the plates downloaded fine,
regards
Ivor
G-IVER
On 15 June 2011 20:34, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi! Europe / Europa fliers who are intending a visit to Wickenby Wings and
Wheels on Saturday /Sunday( you won't be turned away Friday even!) here's
the approach and departure procedures.
There are notams out for the airshow "No fly" periods. All we want now is
fair weather and some intrepid aviators too.
Regards to all
Bob Harrison
I'm looking at G-PTAG being grounded due to unacceptable flakes of ferrous
metal on the magnetic plug which weren't there at last oil change! Lady
Luck deals some shit hands out to me lately !
However no doubt I will have plenty to keep me busy in "the Crew ".
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| Subject: | Vaccum pad alternator |
Thanks Bob
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Borger
Sent: 16 June, 2011 08:49
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Vaccum pad alternator
William,
I have an alternator mounted to the vacuum pad. It is supposed to be rated
around 40 amps but in this installation it probably is rpm limited to around
25 amps. Nothing to sneeze at considering the Rotax alternator is rated at
15 amps and you don't want to run it at that output for very long.
Consequently, I use the vacuum pad alternator as my primary electrical
source for the aircraft. Only 25 hours on it so far, but it as performed
flawlessly.
You can see pictures on my Europa Owners gallery. Some overall pics of the
package under "Mods and other hardware things -- 2nd Alternator Kit." This
kit was purchased from Flight Crafters (Bob & Russ) about a year after I
received the Europa Kit and I don't believe they sell these any more.
Looking at the specs for the B&C unit, I don't see why it wouldn't work just
as well as long as you have the accessory drive gear on your gearbox. I
have used great quantities of B&C equipment on Little Toot Sport Biplanes I
have helped build in the past and I plan to use a lot of their equipment on
the Toot I am presently building for myself.
I'll be happy to dig up or take pictures of my installation if you would
like.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046
Europa Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jun 16, 2011, at 8:02, William Daniell wrote:
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| Subject: | Vaccum pad alternator |
Frans
Thank you
Will
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frans Veldman
Sent: 16 June, 2011 10:32
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Vaccum pad alternator
On 06/16/2011 03:02 PM, William Daniell wrote:
> Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by alternator?
I have one. If you go that route, I would recommend you to split your
battery into two smaller ones, so you have two totally independent
electrical systems. This gives total redundancy, if you fry one system
you still have the other. Logically you have to distribute your
appliances wisely over the two independent buses to get the most out of
this redundancy.
Keep in mind though that this alternator on the Rotax starts generating
power only at 2500 rpm or above. below that it consumes 4 amps for the
field but doesn't produce anything in return. It really starts to come
alive at 3000 rpm or more.
Make sure to order the short version of this alternator. And note that
you can't use the Rotax factory shroud in combination with this alternator.
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Vaccum pad alternator |
Hi Will
"Has anyone fitted a vacuum pad stand by
alternator?"
Like Frans mentioned you want the short version,
the SD20S.
Here's a few pics:
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=28318
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Final Inspection Checklist |
Hi,
In the Final Inspection Checklist (Annex E (T)) on page 5 'Aircraft
back on ground-cowlings removed' it says - "Check addition of rudder
pedal return spring plate CS30 for furthest forward rudder pedal".
I can't find any reference to this part CS30 in the build manual. I
would appreciate any information to solve the mystery of the missing
part.
Regards John
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| Subject: | Re: Final Inspection Checklist |
John,
The classic and very early XS had an extension on the rudder pedal
return spring in Chapter 22 on the pilot side. That has since be
superseded. (Frankly, I don't even have the pages for that any longer
in my shop.) If you have a post 97 XS you should not have a CS30.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
Europa Tech Assistance,
Custom Flight Creations, Inc.
www.customflightcreations.com<http://www.customflightcreations.com/>
(813) 653-4989
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From: John Greenhalgh<mailto:john.greenhalgh1@sky.com>
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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 3:27 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Final Inspection Checklist
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Hi,
In the Final Inspection Checklist (Annex E (T)) on page 5 'Aircraft
back on ground-cowlings removed' it says - "Check addition of rudder
pedal return spring plate CS30 for furthest forward rudder pedal".
I can't find any reference to this part CS30 in the build manual. I
would appreciate any information to solve the mystery of the missing
part.
Regards John
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