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1. 03:45 AM - Re: 914 turbo (Jim Brown)
2. 06:43 AM - Re: 914 turbo (Matthew Carpenter)
3. 07:58 AM - Re: 914 turbo (David Joyce)
4. 09:41 AM - For Sale on Ebay - Completed Europa XS Kit minus FW Forward (Brad Shafer)
5. 01:03 PM - Re: 914 turbo (Jim Brown)
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-=0Agarry, this was the only time...I have used a product called Mouse Mi
lk. Its a lubricant for turbines I think. However it is used in application
s where heat is a problem.- Its avaiable at Aircraft Spruce...I used it a
bout every other month, just a squirt on the shaft that the clevis was atta
ched to.=0A=0AFrom: Garry Stout <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>=0ATo: "europa-list
@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8
:08 PM=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: 914 turbo=0A=0A=0AJim, how often did you
experience a stuck waste gate? -Mine used to stick about once per year,
and was a bugger to free up. -Never did find a solution.=0AGarry=0A=0A=0A
Sent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Jun 24, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jim Brown <acrojim7534@
yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0AFor you 914 drivers;=0A>=0A>My 914 started showin
g surges in the manifold pressure recently.-On takeoff's, the MP would va
ry from 33" MP to 39"MP. In cruse mode where I normall cruise at 33" MP and
5300 RPM-I was having to advance the throttle, or retard, in order to ke
ep the MP stable.=0A>=0A>The engine has 860 hours, TT since new...to make a
long story short, I have added 3 pictures of the servo cable..Over a perio
d of time, some of the wires in the cable, were broken, or just worn out.
-The -clevis on the end of the cable connects directly to the turbo was
tgate, and the worn out cable was just bending, instead of moving the waste
gate...=0A>-=0A>I ordered new cable from Rotax, and installed...Make sure
when installing new cable, that the wastgate is completely closed..If its
not completely closed, you will not get full bost on takeoff.=0A>=0A>Jim Br
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Hi, we also had the same problem with a stuck waste gate. We tried Mouse
Milk but would have the same problem after only a few flights.
Out solution was to remove the turbo and clean the shaft dry. I think that
was Lockwood Aviation's suggestion.
Keep the shaft dry and run motor gas. Any AVGAS will cause it to stick at
random times as the lead builds up. We run motor gas as often as we can,
but use TCP (I think that's what it's called) when we run AVGAS.
Before each flight I turn the master on and let the servo move the waste
gate. Problem is I cannot see the servo or waste gate. What we figured out
is that we can pull the engine computer breaker and push it back in and at
the same time we quickly move in front of the place and look at the waste
gate. You can see the arm move for just a brief second. This method works
great and we have not had a stuck waste gate since.
Matt Carpenter
N138WJ
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 turbo
garry, this was the only time...I have used a product called Mouse Milk. Its
a lubricant for turbines I think. However it is used in applications where
heat is a problem. Its avaiable at Aircraft Spruce...I used it about every
other month, just a squirt on the shaft that the clevis was attached to.
From: Garry Stout <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 turbo
Jim, how often did you experience a stuck waste gate? Mine used to stick
about once per year, and was a bugger to free up. Never did find a
solution.
Garry
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 24, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jim Brown <acrojim7534@yahoo.com> wrote:
For you 914 drivers;
My 914 started showing surges in the manifold pressure recently. On
takeoff's, the MP would vary from 33" MP to 39"MP. In cruse mode where I
normall cruise at 33" MP and 5300 RPM I was having to advance the throttle,
or retard, in order to keep the MP stable.
The engine has 860 hours, TT since new...to make a long story short, I have
added 3 pictures of the servo cable..Over a period of time, some of the
wires in the cable, were broken, or just worn out. The clevis on the end of
the cable connects directly to the turbo wastgate, and the worn out cable
was just bending, instead of moving the wastegate...
I ordered new cable from Rotax, and installed...Make sure when installing
new cable, that the wastgate is completely closed..If its not completely
closed, you will not get full bost on takeoff.
Jim Brown
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Light oil on the bearing (or as near as you can get to it) without
dismantling the turbo has worked for me.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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From: "Matthew Carpenter" <europaxs@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 turbo
> Hi, we also had the same problem with a stuck waste gate. We tried Mouse
> Milk but would have the same problem after only a few flights.
>
> Out solution was to remove the turbo and clean the shaft dry. I think that
> was Lockwood Aviation's suggestion.
>
>
> Keep the shaft dry and run motor gas. Any AVGAS will cause it to stick at
> random times as the lead builds up. We run motor gas as often as we can,
> but use TCP (I think that's what it's called) when we run AVGAS.
>
>
> Before each flight I turn the master on and let the servo move the waste
> gate. Problem is I cannot see the servo or waste gate. What we figured
> out
> is that we can pull the engine computer breaker and push it back in and at
> the same time we quickly move in front of the place and look at the waste
> gate. You can see the arm move for just a brief second. This method
> works
> great and we have not had a stuck waste gate since.
>
>
> Matt Carpenter
>
> N138WJ
>
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 5:42 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 turbo
>
>
> garry, this was the only time...I have used a product called Mouse Milk.
> Its
> a lubricant for turbines I think. However it is used in applications where
> heat is a problem. Its avaiable at Aircraft Spruce...I used it about
> every
> other month, just a squirt on the shaft that the clevis was attached to.
>
>
> From: Garry Stout <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "europa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 8:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 turbo
>
> Jim, how often did you experience a stuck waste gate? Mine used to stick
> about once per year, and was a bugger to free up. Never did find a
> solution.
>
> Garry
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jim Brown <acrojim7534@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> For you 914 drivers;
>
>
> My 914 started showing surges in the manifold pressure recently. On
> takeoff's, the MP would vary from 33" MP to 39"MP. In cruse mode where I
> normall cruise at 33" MP and 5300 RPM I was having to advance the
> throttle,
> or retard, in order to keep the MP stable.
>
>
> The engine has 860 hours, TT since new...to make a long story short, I
> have
> added 3 pictures of the servo cable..Over a period of time, some of the
> wires in the cable, were broken, or just worn out. The clevis on the end
> of
> the cable connects directly to the turbo wastgate, and the worn out cable
> was just bending, instead of moving the wastegate...
>
>
> I ordered new cable from Rotax, and installed...Make sure when installing
> new cable, that the wastgate is completely closed..If its not completely
> closed, you will not get full bost on takeoff.
>
>
> Jim Brown
>
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| Subject: | For Sale on Ebay - Completed Europa XS Kit minus FW Forward |
This is now on Ebay for sale. Here is the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Europa-XS-Airplane-completed-plane-minus-FW-
forward-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2565172615QQitemZ160609805845QQptZMotor
sQ5fAircraft
From: Brad Shafer
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 12:19 AM
Subject: Completed Europa XS Kit minus FW Forward
This is a completed Europa XS that had everything forward of the firewall r
emoved and the instruments. It was a flying Europa that I bought from the b
uilder. I only needed the engine and instruments for my Europa. The kit was
built by Phoenix Composites in the US. The kit is in good shape. It only n
eeds a few minor repairs like reattaching one tailplane sleeve and one door
bolt sleeve. Most of the fuel lines have been removed but almost all the w
iring is intact from the panel back. The attached pictures show it in flyin
g condition and in its current condition. All the flying surfaces are in th
eir original flying condition. The kit is located near Chicago in the USA.
The price is $9,500 USD or best offer. Please contact me at bshafer@extreme
networks.com<mailto:bshafer@extremenetworks.com> for questions. Thanks. Bra
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In my previous post about the turbo wastgate... The wastgate was NOT stuck.
..The problem was the controll cable had worn thru several strands of the c
able. The cable was bending part of the time,when the throttle was moved,wh
ich made the MP change. This is why I posted the pictures.....=0A-=0AIt w
ould seem that my problem with the cable, brough forth a problem that has b
een ocurring, with the stuck wastgate on the 914's.=0A-=0AJim Brown=0A=0A
From: Jim Brown <acrojim7534@yahoo.com>=0ATo: Europa list <europa-list@matr
onics.com>=0ASent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:59 PM=0ASubject: Europa-List: 91
4 turbo=0A=0A=0AFor you 914 drivers;=0A=0AMy 914 started showing surges in
the manifold pressure recently.-On takeoff's, the MP would vary from 33"
MP to 39"MP. In cruse mode where I normall cruise at 33" MP and 5300 RPM-
I was having to advance the throttle, or retard, in order to keep the MP st
able.=0A=0AThe engine has 860 hours, TT since new...to make a long story sh
ort, I have added 3 pictures of the servo cable..Over a period of time, som
e of the wires in the cable, were broken, or just worn out.-The -clevis
on the end of the cable connects directly to the turbo wastgate, and the w
orn out cable was just bending, instead of moving the wastegate...=0A-=0A
I ordered new cable from Rotax, and installed...Make sure when installing n
ew cable, that the wastgate is completely closed..If its not completely clo
sed, you will not get full bost on takeoff.=0A=0AJim Brown
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