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| Subject: | Re: Europa Ladies!!! |
...oh yes Bob I have always known what you really enjoy and what kind of
a man you are. All the females wants to suck you at least those two
horny mosquitos once here.
IMHO EMHC is possible but at least one of a club member must have quite
a tiny and flexible body and of course open mind to perform things.
I have completed all the geometrics and calculations and personally I am
ready t go.
My wife (she again!) need a bit preparering & fixing & practising but I
am sure she is also good to go sooner or later.
My plan is to take a photo from a session and glue it at a large format
to the D-panel.
Raimo OH-XRT
BTW I am not sure is the traditional pen-e-tration must to be (E)MHC a
member with full rights and honour. Maybe just a perfect o-ral play is
accepted.
Someone should call to Club President John Travolta (pilot & owner
B-707-138 and Gulfstream G-V for personal recreational use).
From: Bob Harrison
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Ladies!!!
........And from a little voice on the sidelines .....yes for sure bring
all the sisters and lets share a few pieces !
I alsohad just told them at Wickenby (EGNW) the Europa Mile high Club
is impossible so this I need to see !!!!
Regards
To all
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo
Toivio
Sent: 06 July 2011 15:20
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Ladies!!!
Hi Lucio
why not? And also girlfriends, flying mothers and mothers in law,
daughters and do not forget all those mistresses.
Without my wife OH-XRT would have never been completed. Without her
neverending support I would have stopped flying. When building we got
married. So, she is vital and very virile part of my Europa life.
The Plan is to join Europa Mile High Club
(after autopilot installation and some practise that should be
performable happily and safely. That would be also very romantic because
I have there zillions of dimmable red lights and also slow bedroom music
via Bluetooth from B&O=C2=B4s MP3.
Just wonder who will be the very first Europa child who has been
manufactured in the (flying) Europa. Some of you may think that is
impossible because CofG but that is well solveable. My wife is behind my
shoulder and will press delete quite soon so I have to move on...
How many female Europa pilots there are? How many of you have a lady
=93 wife or not =93 who want to fly with you? Maybe some of
you have many of them? How many then (You all remember my personal
record is to fly Europa with three ladies omboard). Would you like to
share your =9CLady in Europa=9D photos? Maybe this a a place
for some kind competition?
I know couple of them like Frans Veldman=C2=B4s charming wife Ilona.
Also Stefan Ingemarson=C2=B4s flying lady and Dirk Oyen=C2=B4s Chantal
are magnificent. Maybe that is something to do with Europas!
BTW My wife Marke wants me to teach her to fly Europa unofficially. Just
for fun and just in case, you know. Our goal is she could make a safe
landing during this year. I mean a safe Mono landing...with some air in
the tube please. That air should be between ground and a center axle.
***
Thanks for a Slime tip =93 I will check it out immediately.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 214,2 /418
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio@fly.to
www.rwm.fi
From: Carl Pattinson
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
Hi Ravio,
Are we starting a =9Creaders wives=9D section on this forum
=93 just curious ?
Best stuff to avoid tyre going flat is =9Cslime=9D.
http://www.slime.com/
Great stuff =93 even use it in my car tyres.
Good Luck
Carl G-LABS
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo
Toivio
Sent: 06 July 2011 01:53
Subject: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
From: Raimo Toivio
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:21 AM
Subject: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
Dear All,
it is a long time since I have been here. Today it happened something
and I got an Europa Energy Burst (aka ENB) to write on the list. I think
this could be useful info for most of you Europa (or any GA plane)
operators. Let me tell you what was it and how it went:
***
I have worked couple of years to make an Europa story to the largest All
and Universal Technical Scandinavian Magazine which is published in the
Scandinavian countries. I have had several flying experiences with their
very speciall aviation editor. Today we decided to fly to one very
remote airfield. Everything went as normally.
Please notice I have a Monowheel, The Most Sexy GA ever built.
***
Just after a touchdown I
- smelled a well burned rubber and then after
- noticed immediately a strong autobrakeing
- noticed immeadiately the position of the aircraft is not normal (too
low and too leveled)
- noticed a rumbling noise
- noticed it is not *very* well steerable or att all and so we went out
of the runway to the port side of the grass area
We went out of the runway. That concrete runway 33 was quite narrow,
just 6 metres or about 20 feets only. I understood at once what was the
name of the game. During first seconds I was wondering if it (tha plane)
will be inverted. The brakeing effect was so hard. After seconds I was
wondering if I will lose only my prop (and engine) at least. It took
only seconds. We stopped and I ask the editor how about if I will now
switch off the fuel pump, electrics, engine, are you ok and how do you
feel now?
What a story for a newspaperman!
The landing was very normal before the touch down. Let me say, I had
completed 416 pcs of an Europa Monowheel landings and this was better
than 8 (0-10) just before touch down . I (we) assume the tire/tyre was
empty before landing. Not a big bang when landing at all, no no.
***
During the years we (Europa Operators) have speculated what will happen
when landing a mono with an empty tire /tyre. Now I /we know: If lucky
nothing! My prop was still a virgin (configuration: Warp Drive blades
with a wonderful Airmaster hub from NZ). The soil out of the runway was
quite soft. There was still a clearance between the mother ground and
the blades about 50 mm /2 inches. I kept the stick hard back during the
landing. Some of you may remember I do love high speed landings like on
final 70 knots and during a touch down around 60 knots. The brakeing
effect was very strong because of an empty main (and only!) tire /tyre:
it took only less than 100 metres /300 feets from touch down point to
the final stop. Zero winds. Runway is a bit upphill.
***
After I checked I am ok and my co-pilot was also ok and my plane was
about ok I called bureacrats as they call to do in Finland immediately.
The Police came and people from The Air Accident Investigators called
me. That was an Finnish Army Airbase also. They came and tried to help
us by giving some air to my empty wheel but do not succeeded because the
inner tube was totally destroyed during the landing (just 300 metres
from us they =93 Finnish Army - were launching unmannned planes by
steam catapult).
***
I called my loving (and sooo beautiful) wife and she took immediately
the spare inner tube with her from our hangar and was heading by car
with a trailer 200 km /125 miles to us. Without a special jacking block
which I always carry with me it would have been impossible task to lift
the Mono upp and take the wheel out and change an inner tube for a new
one. All together it took 6 hours until we were flyable again. Let me
say The Editor still wanted to fly with me back to EFTP. We completed
some touches and goes to check would it be again empty or not. It was
not. What a smile.
Attached a pic =9Can accident place, my plane, my Wife and Mr
Editor doing tire /tyre changeing jobs=9D.
***
Fuck!
I have operatored my Europa 4 seasons and this was my 4th case of an
empty and a broken main wheel! This was a first experience during a
landing. All the other cases have been during taxiing or so. Why?! I
have an original size and a brand of an inner tube which is 8.00
=93 7(6) which means it is ok for a size 7 and 6. They say so. I
had two years an original outer tyre /tire which was like from a colf
car but after earlier incidents I changed it for a real aircraft tyre
/tire (brand name Air Trac). Always the hole has been in the side of the
inner tyre. It has always been let me say about 10 mm /0,4 inches) long
crack.
I (I point *I*) assume that is the question of the bad quality of the
Deli (made in Indonesian) innner tyres.
***
Let me and we all know the source for the high quality inner tubes
please!
Let me and all know is there any clever stuff to put inside of the inner
tube *before* accident to prevent this kinds of accidents.
We all know there are stuffs to put inside the inner tubes to make our
day *after* it is empty. That is not a solution and nothing to do with a
catastrophic failure when the crack is 10 mm or wider.
I /we need a possibility to prevent this kind of (very stupid)
not-so-purpose-to-happend-accidents.
***
Monowheels pilots =93 please do not ever fly far away w/o a
lifting block. That is a sensation.
Thanks for Mr. Dirk van Oyen from Belgium (first time in use a day after
a Maiden Flight =93 that was 30.04.2007).
***
Thanks for this wonderful chance to share and make my day.
I have many topics to talk with you. Many questions to answer. Many
things to do since the end of the last summer. I will come back.
Thanks you are there. All of you.
***
Specially Mr Kingsley from Oz and Mr Fred Klein from US.
I am happy you are there.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 214,2 /418
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio@fly.to
www.rwm.fi
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| Subject: | Fwd: Europa forum, could you post this for me? |
Richard,
Consider it done!
Bob
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Richard Lamprey <lamprey@infocom.co.ug>
> Date: July 7, 2011 6:02:05 CDT
> To: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
> Subject: Europa forum, could you post this for me?
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Some months back you were kind enough to give some some advice about
912 engine overhauls: If you have an active link with the forum, would
you be some kind as to post the message below on it, as my messages on
the forum constantly bounce? I would apprecviate your help.
> With best regards
> Richard Lamprey
> Europa monowheel 168, Kenya
>
> Subject: problems with posting to the forum.
>
> As a Europa monowheel operator in Kenya, I have subscribed to the
forum for many years. It comes to my email inbox. I find it very
useful for information on Europa operations. Conversely, as a Europa
operator in a third-world country, I believe I have quite a lot of
information to share about how to keep things going when far from other
Europa colleagues; there is no other Europa within a radius of 3000 km
from my location.
>
> Frequently, members describe problems which I have encountered and
solved, so I imagine I can contribute usefully to the forum. (The last
attempt was about my micro-switch arrangement that shows a green
=91gear-locked=92 light on the panel when the LG08=92s are hard against
the frame stops; thereby avoiding gear collapse).
>
> I have not been able post anything directly to the forum for over two
years, because every message I send is blocked by spam filters.
Messages are undelivered or returned. This is very irritating.
Occasionally, when I have a really urgent issue, I can get another kind
member to post it for me, as I did recently on an issue regarding ELT
installation in my Europa.
>
> I recognize the value of spam filters but when it blocks normal
communication with the forum, it is very counter-productive. I am not
the only one in the boat; I know of others who have simply given up.
Ironically, it is perhaps us operators in the third world who need the
forum most, but who have the most difficulty. Messages from Kenyan (and
other African) IP addresses are quite often blocked automatically as
being spam, as it is assumed that they are from Abdul requiring your
bank details for a million-dollar transfer.
>
> It is also possible that the problem is the wireless 3G modems we use
here, which launch you with a different IP address every time you log on
(wire-links and broadband don=92t exist, as the copper wires were stolen
years ago). Ironically, however, I was able to post messages when using
a British Telecom 3G modem in the UK. The forum should be for all, not
just those with superfast broadband connections and fixed IP addresses.
>
> Messages sent directly to the administrator, Matte Dralle, are also
rejected, so I cannot contact him directly. Every November, Matte sends
out a request for financial support to the forum. I recognize the value
of the forum, but quite honestly, if I can=92t post my messages or
enquiries on it, why should I bother?
>
> So I am sending this as a last ditch effort to get this problem sorted
out, once and for all. Matt Dralle, are you listening?
>
> =46rom Richard Lamprey (Europa Monowheel 168, Kenya), and on behalf of
all those who have long given up.
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| Subject: | William Mills Ashes - contribution |
To all those wishing to contribute, I have now established a PayPal
account and payments can be made direct to me if you will not be at
Popham this weekend.
Thank you.
Steve Pitt
Vice Chair Europa Club
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| Subject: | Re: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident |
Raimo, I will be at the airport tomorrow, and will get the information for
you.=0A-=0AJim=0A=0AFrom: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>=0ATo: europa
-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:34 PM=0ASubject: Re:
Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident=0A=0A--> Europa-List mes
sage posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>=0A=0ADear Jim=0A=0ARea
d careful my post: I like to use pressure 2,0 - 2,2 bars. 2,1 bar = 30,45
PSI. So we land with same pressures. Pressure - low or high - is not a rea
son.=0A=0AWhat is your tube brand name?=0AWhat is your tube and tyre size?
=0A=0AUntil I will get a reason and solution I am going to do same as Paul
is doing: changeing regularly tube. Makes me sense to change it every year
(= in my case every 50 hrs /about 50 - 100 landings. I never can do it in
30 minutes but so what. Tube is very cheap. For example yeasterday I spent
6 hrs fighting with that problem with my wife and that newspaperman. That
is 18 hrs + all the extra fees + 400 km driving car. That must be same as b
uying let us say 100 pcs of tubes.=0A=0ABTW also I use masses of baby botto
m talcum. That delicate scent is a bit embarrassing...=0A=0ARaimo=0A=0A----
-Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- From: acrojim@cfl.rr.com=0ASent: Wednesday, Jul
y 06, 2011 8:36 PM=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Europa-Li
st: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident=0A=0A--> Europa-List message post
ed by: <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>=0A=0AAll monowheel drivers=0A=0AFollowing this
thread today... I have a few commits to throw to the forum...I notice that
Europa requires very- low tire pressure in their manual....=0A=0AI also n
oticed today that quiet a few monowheel drivers are having flat's....I susp
ect that with the low air pressure, when you land the sidewals are flexing
due to low air pressure...this is probably "pinching the inner tube" and th
en the tire goes flat....=0A=0AI have always kept 32 PSI in the tire. IN 10
years, and two tires and tubes, I have never had a flat....Yes I know I ha
ve been blessed by the good luck god..=0A=0AThank about it with 32 P S In t
he tube the sidewalls are not flexing......Just my thought's on this matter
....=0A=0AJim Brown=0AMonowheel.......=0A=0A---- Paul McAllister <paul.the.
aviator@gmail.com> wrote:=0A> Hi All,=0A> =0A> I have found that the inner
tubes on my mono to be an ongoing problem and I=0A> now routinely change my
inner tube every 150 hours as preventative=0A> maintenance.- The tubes I
have been using are not very expensive and I think=0A> that they are from
China. Recently Bud made me aware that there is a=0A> certified inner tube
available at about 3 times the cost and if they last=0A> longer then they w
ould be so worth it!=0A> =0A> I do recall when I mentioned on the forum tha
t I was losing inner tubes=0A> regularly that some people were surprised an
d that they had not had a=0A> problem so perhaps this can be accounted for
by different inner tubes being=0A> available. The failure I get is that the
side wall of the inner tube get=0A> small splits in it due to chafing.-
I typically run my tire at about 24 psi,=0A> which is higher than the recom
mended by Europa. BTW I do use talcum powder=0A> when I install the inner t
ube.=0A> =0A> I have had 3 blow outs on a hard surface and fortunately I wa
s able to keep=0A> directional control.- The challenge I found is that wi
th a flat tire the=0A> mono is nearly impossible to move.- It happen to m
e at a large airport once=0A> which got the airport authority excited becau
se they had to shut the runway=0A> down and divert all of the 737's to a sh
orter runway.- I now carry a jacking=0A> block, tools and a spare inner t
ube with me and I can now do the change out=0A> in less than 30 minutes.=0A
> =0A> Next time around I am going to try a certified inner tube in the hop
e that=0A> it will last longer.=0A> =0A> Paul=0A> =0A> =0A> >=0A> >- *Fro
m:* Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>=0A> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 20
11 3:21 AM=0A> > *To:* Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>=0A> > *Subject:*
Tire /tyre landing incident > /accident=0A> >=0A> >- Dear All,=0A> >=0A>
> it is a long time since I have been here. > Today it happened something a
nd I=0A> > got an Europa Energy Burst (aka ENB) to write > on the list. I t
hink this=0A> > could be useful info for most of you Europa > (or any GA pl
ane) operators. Let=0A> > me tell you what was it and how it went:=0A> >=0A
> >=0A> >=0A=0Abrowse=0AUn/Subscription,=0AFAQ,=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident |
Jim, thanks (do not bother to check tube brand name by removing the
tire!!!)!
Raimo
From: Jim Brown
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
Raimo, I will be at the airport tomorrow, and will get the information
for you.
Jim
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
Dear Jim
Read careful my post: I like to use pressure 2,0 - 2,2 bars. 2,1 bar =
30,45 PSI. So we land with same pressures. Pressure - low or high - is
not a reason.
What is your tube brand name?
What is your tube and tyre size?
Until I will get a reason and solution I am going to do same as Paul is
doing: changeing regularly tube. Makes me sense to change it every year
(= in my case every 50 hrs /about 50 - 100 landings. I never can do it
in 30 minutes but so what. Tube is very cheap. For example yeasterday I
spent 6 hrs fighting with that problem with my wife and that
newspaperman. That is 18 hrs + all the extra fees + 400 km driving car.
That must be same as buying let us say 100 pcs of tubes.
BTW also I use masses of baby bottom talcum. That delicate scent is a
bit embarrassing...
Raimo
-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- From: acrojim@cfl.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
All monowheel drivers
Following this thread today... I have a few commits to throw to the
forum...I notice that Europa requires very low tire pressure in their
manual....
I also noticed today that quiet a few monowheel drivers are having
flat's....I suspect that with the low air pressure, when you land the
sidewals are flexing due to low air pressure...this is probably
"pinching the inner tube" and then the tire goes flat....
I have always kept 32 PSI in the tire. IN 10 years, and two tires and
tubes, I have never had a flat....Yes I know I have been blessed by the
good luck god..
Thank about it with 32 P S In the tube the sidewalls are not
flexing......Just my thought's on this matter....
Jim Brown
Monowheel.......
---- Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have found that the inner tubes on my mono to be an ongoing problem
and I
> now routinely change my inner tube every 150 hours as preventative
> maintenance. The tubes I have been using are not very expensive and I
think
> that they are from China. Recently Bud made me aware that there is a
> certified inner tube available at about 3 times the cost and if they
last
> longer then they would be so worth it!
>
> I do recall when I mentioned on the forum that I was losing inner
tubes
> regularly that some people were surprised and that they had not had a
> problem so perhaps this can be accounted for by different inner tubes
being
> available. The failure I get is that the side wall of the inner tube
get
> small splits in it due to chafing. I typically run my tire at about
24 psi,
> which is higher than the recommended by Europa. BTW I do use talcum
powder
> when I install the inner tube.
>
> I have had 3 blow outs on a hard surface and fortunately I was able to
keep
> directional control. The challenge I found is that with a flat tire
the
> mono is nearly impossible to move. It happen to me at a large airport
once
> which got the airport authority excited because they had to shut the
runway
> down and divert all of the 737's to a shorter runway. I now carry a
jacking
> block, tools and a spare inner tube with me and I can now do the
change out
> in less than 30 minutes.
>
> Next time around I am going to try a certified inner tube in the hope
that
> it will last longer.
>
> Paul
>
>
> >
> > *From:* Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:21 AM
> > *To:* Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
> > *Subject:* Tire /tyre landing incident > /accident
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > it is a long time since I have been here. > Today it happened
something and I
> > got an Europa Energy Burst (aka ENB) to write > on the list. I think
this
> > could be useful info for most of you Europa > (or any GA plane)
operators. Let
> > me tell you what was it and how it went:
> >
> >
> >
browse
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Morning everyone,
I would like to endorse Richard Lamprey's comments. My emails are also
always blocked by the Barracuda spam filter. I have requested unblocking
3 times, following which I have had a window of about 12 hours 2 days
later when I could get an email through. I'm not sure what the answer
is, but at least it might help if Matt is aware of the extent of
problem.
If this gets through it will be the first for 2 years, otherwise I will
ask Tim Ward if he will kindly forward it.
Regards,
Keith Hickling,
Dunedin 9010,
New Zealand.
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Ditto me. I gave up trying to post on the forum over 2 years ago. Now I just
lurk.
But there's not much new to say that hasn't been said before!
Duncan.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keith hickling
Sent: 08 July 2011 00:00
Subject: Europa-List: spam filter
Morning everyone,
I would like to endorse Richard Lamprey's comments. My emails are also
always blocked by the Barracuda spam filter. I have requested unblocking 3
times, following which I have had a window of about 12 hours 2 days later
when I could get an email through. I'm not sure what the answer is, but at
least it might help if Matt is aware of the extent of problem.
If this gets through it will be the first for 2 years, otherwise I will ask
Tim Ward if he will kindly forward it.
Regards,
Keith Hickling,
Dunedin 9010,
New Zealand.
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Hi Guys
You can always set up an account and post or reply direct, or view here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=9
Ron Parigoris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345371#345371
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Keith,
That went through OK.
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch,
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 8/07/2011, at 11:00 AM, keith hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz> wrote
:
> Morning everyone,
>
> I would like to endorse Richard Lamprey's comments. My emails are also alw
ays blocked by the Barracuda spam filter. I have requested unblocking 3 time
s, following which I have had a window of about 12 hours 2 days later when I
could get an email through. I'm not sure what the answer is, but at least i
t might help if Matt is aware of the extent of problem.
>
> If this gets through it will be the first for 2 years, otherwise I will as
k Tim Ward if he will kindly forward it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Keith Hickling,
> Dunedin 9010,
> New Zealand.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Ladies!!! |
If I towed my unfinished XS to Denver and had a conjugal visit from my wife
in the hager, would I still be a member of the "Club"?
Mike Duane
Redding, California
-----Original Message-----
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Sent: Thu, Jul 7, 2011 2:47 am
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Ladies!!!
...oh yes Bob I have always known what you really enjoy and what kind of a
man you are. All the females wants to suck you at least those two horny mos
quitos once here.
IMHO EMHC is possible but at least one of a club member must have quite a t
iny and flexible body and of course open mind to perform things.
I have completed all the geometrics and calculations and personally I am re
ady t go.
My wife (she again!) need a bit preparering & fixing & practising but I am
sure she is also good to go sooner or later.
My plan is to take a photo from a session and glue it at a large format to
the D-panel.
Raimo OH-XRT
BTW I am not sure is the traditional pen-e-tration must to be (E)MHC a memb
er with full rights and honour. Maybe just a perfect o-ral play is accepted
.
Someone should call to Club President John Travolta (pilot & owner B-707-13
8 and Gulfstream G-V for personal recreational use).
From: Bob Harrison
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Ladies!!!
........And from a little voice on the sidelines .....yes for sure bring al
l the sisters and lets share a few pieces !
I alsohad just told them at Wickenby (EGNW) the Europa Mile high Club is i
mpossible so this I need to see !!!!
Regards
To all
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: 06 July 2011 15:20
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Ladies!!!
Hi Lucio
why not? And also girlfriends, flying mothers and mothers in law, daughters
and do not forget all those mistresses.
Without my wife OH-XRT would have never been completed. Without her neveren
ding support I would have stopped flying. When building we got married. So,
she is vital and very virile part of my Europa life.
The Plan is to join Europa Mile High Club
(after autopilot installation and some practise that should be performable
happily and safely. That would be also very romantic because I have there z
illions of dimmable red lights and also slow bedroom music via Bluetooth fr
om B&O=C2=B4s MP3.
Just wonder who will be the very first Europa child who has been manufactur
ed in the (flying) Europa. Some of you may think that is impossible because
CofG but that is well solveable. My wife is behind my shoulder and will pr
ess delete quite soon so I have to move on...
How many female Europa pilots there are? How many of you have a lady
=93 wife or not =93 who want to fly with you? Maybe some of you have
many of them? How many then (You all remember my personal record is to fly
Europa with three ladies omboard). Would you like to share your =9CLa
dy in Europa=9D photos? Maybe this a a place for some kind competitio
n?
I know couple of them like Frans Veldman=C2=B4s charming wife Ilona. Also S
tefan Ingemarson=C2=B4s flying lady and Dirk Oyen=C2=B4s Chantal are magnif
icent. Maybe that is something to do with Europas!
BTW My wife Marke wants me to teach her to fly Europa unofficially. Just fo
r fun and just in case, you know. Our goal is she could make a safe landing
during this year. I mean a safe Mono landing...with some air in the tube p
lease. That air should be between ground and a center axle.
***
Thanks for a Slime tip =93 I will check it out immediately.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 214,2 /418
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio@fly.to
www.rwm.fi
From: Carl Pattinson
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
Hi Ravio,
Are we starting a =9Creaders wives=9D section on this forum
=93 just curious ?
Best stuff to avoid tyre going flat is =9Cslime=9D. http://www.
slime.com/
Great stuff =93 even use it in my car tyres.
Good Luck
Carl G-LABS
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: 06 July 2011 01:53
Subject: Europa-List: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
From: Raimo Toivio
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:21 AM
Subject: Tire /tyre landing incident /accident
Dear All,
it is a long time since I have been here. Today it happened something and I
got an Europa Energy Burst (aka ENB) to write on the list. I think this co
uld be useful info for most of you Europa (or any GA plane) operators. Let
me tell you what was it and how it went:
***
I have worked couple of years to make an Europa story to the largest All an
d Universal Technical Scandinavian Magazine which is published in the Scand
inavian countries. I have had several flying experiences with their very sp
eciall aviation editor. Today we decided to fly to one very remote airfield
. Everything went as normally.
Please notice I have a Monowheel, The Most Sexy GA ever built.
***
Just after a touchdown I
- smelled a well burned rubber and then after
- noticed immediately a strong autobrakeing
- noticed immeadiately the position of the aircraft is not normal (too low
and too leveled)
- noticed a rumbling noise
- noticed it is not *very* well steerable or att all and so we went out of
the runway to the port side of the grass area
We went out of the runway. That concrete runway 33 was quite narrow, just 6
metres or about 20 feets only. I understood at once what was the name of t
he game. During first seconds I was wondering if it (tha plane) will be inv
erted. The brakeing effect was so hard. After seconds I was wondering if I
will lose only my prop (and engine) at least. It took only seconds. We stop
ped and I ask the editor how about if I will now switch off the fuel pump,
electrics, engine, are you ok and how do you feel now?
What a story for a newspaperman!
The landing was very normal before the touch down. Let me say, I had comple
ted 416 pcs of an Europa Monowheel landings and this was better than 8 (0-1
0) just before touch down . I (we) assume the tire/tyre was empty before la
nding. Not a big bang when landing at all, no no.
***
During the years we (Europa Operators) have speculated what will happen whe
n landing a mono with an empty tire /tyre. Now I /we know: If lucky nothing
! My prop was still a virgin (configuration: Warp Drive blades with a wonde
rful Airmaster hub from NZ). The soil out of the runway was quite soft. The
re was still a clearance between the mother ground and the blades about 50
mm /2 inches. I kept the stick hard back during the landing. Some of you ma
y remember I do love high speed landings like on final 70 knots and during
a touch down around 60 knots. The brakeing effect was very strong because o
f an empty main (and only!) tire /tyre: it took only less than 100 metres /
300 feets from touch down point to the final stop. Zero winds. Runway is a
bit upphill.
***
After I checked I am ok and my co-pilot was also ok and my plane was about
ok I called bureacrats as they call to do in Finland immediately. The Polic
e came and people from The Air Accident Investigators called me. That was a
n Finnish Army Airbase also. They came and tried to help us by giving some
air to my empty wheel but do not succeeded because the inner tube was total
ly destroyed during the landing (just 300 metres from us they =93 Fin
nish Army - were launching unmannned planes by steam catapult).
***
I called my loving (and sooo beautiful) wife and she took immediately the s
pare inner tube with her from our hangar and was heading by car with a trai
ler 200 km /125 miles to us. Without a special jacking block which I always
carry with me it would have been impossible task to lift the Mono upp and
take the wheel out and change an inner tube for a new one. All together it
took 6 hours until we were flyable again. Let me say The Editor still wante
d to fly with me back to EFTP. We completed some touches and goes to check
would it be again empty or not. It was not. What a smile.
Attached a pic =9Can accident place, my plane, my Wife and Mr Editor
doing tire /tyre changeing jobs=9D.
***
Fuck!
I have operatored my Europa 4 seasons and this was my 4th case of an empty
and a broken main wheel! This was a first experience during a landing. All
the other cases have been during taxiing or so. Why?! I have an original si
ze and a brand of an inner tube which is 8.00 =93 7(6) which means it
is ok for a size 7 and 6. They say so. I had two years an original outer t
yre /tire which was like from a colf car but after earlier incidents I chan
ged it for a real aircraft tyre /tire (brand name Air Trac). Always the hol
e has been in the side of the inner tyre. It has always been let me say abo
ut 10 mm /0,4 inches) long crack.
I (I point *I*) assume that is the question of the bad quality of the Deli
(made in Indonesian) innner tyres.
***
Let me and we all know the source for the high quality inner tubes please!
Let me and all know is there any clever stuff to put inside of the inner tu
be *before* accident to prevent this kinds of accidents.
We all know there are stuffs to put inside the inner tubes to make our day
*after* it is empty. That is not a solution and nothing to do with a catast
rophic failure when the crack is 10 mm or wider.
I /we need a possibility to prevent this kind of (very stupid) not-so-purpo
se-to-happend-accidents.
***
Monowheels pilots =93 please do not ever fly far away w/o a lifting b
lock. That is a sensation.
Thanks for Mr. Dirk van Oyen from Belgium (first time in use a day after a
Maiden Flight =93 that was 30.04.2007).
***
Thanks for this wonderful chance to share and make my day.
I have many topics to talk with you. Many questions to answer. Many things
to do since the end of the last summer. I will come back.
Thanks you are there. All of you.
***
Specially Mr Kingsley from Oz and Mr Fred Klein from US.
I am happy you are there.
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 214,2 /418
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
toivio@fly.to
www.rwm.fi
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