Today's Message Index:
----------------------
 
     1. 01:01 AM - Davidstow Moor (Mike Gamble)
     2. 01:34 AM - Davidstow Moor (Mike Gamble)
     3. 01:45 AM - Re: Davidstow Moor (David Watts)
     4. 08:40 AM - Wiring sources (Fergus Kyle)
     5. 09:39 AM - Glider Wing Spar Mod 78 ready for order. (Bud Yerly)
     6. 11:38 AM - Trailer (cdspattingham@aol.com)
     7. 11:56 AM - Re: Mode S (ian.mansfeld@tiscali.co.uk)
     8. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: mono support when derigged (Raimo Toivio)
 
 
 
Message 1
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Anyone visited Davidstow Moor in Cornwall? Comments, tips, sheep and people
      clearing procedures gratefully received as I may head that way next week.
      
      Thanks.
      
      Mike
      
      G-CFMP
      
      
Message 2
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Anyone visited Davidstow Moor in Cornwall? Comments, tips, sheep and people
      clearing procedures gratefully received as I may head that way next week.
      
      Thanks.
      
      Mike
      
      G-CFMP
      
      
Message 3
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Mike,
      
      
      I've been there a couple of times.
      
      
      It's difficult to contact the operator, but they seem happy most of the time
      to just use it.
      
      
      The runway does have sheep on it and car drivers learning to drive, so a low
      pass is the order of the day.
      
      
      Also the runway is quite rough being well broken up tarmac, but still
      perfectly useable.
      
      
      Dave Watts
      
      G-BXDY
      
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gamble
      Sent: 22 August 2011 08:59
      Subject: Europa-List: Davidstow Moor
      
      
      Anyone visited Davidstow Moor in Cornwall? Comments, tips, sheep and people
      clearing procedures gratefully received as I may head that way next week.
      
      Thanks.
      
      Mike
      
      G-CFMP
      
      
Message 4
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      Cheers, 
      	If you are in the course of wiring, as I seem to be endlessly,
      sometimes a wiring change or design calls for a number of 2 or more wire
      connections and not much room for them.  if the current demand is less than
      a few, of course Dsub connectors will serve but for not less than 5 wires -
      sometimes too many.
      	If it's for more than say 4-5 Amps, perhaps the following might be
      of use:
      Taiwan King Pin (TKP) part number H6725R-02 [8.3A] an industry designation,
      might serve.  Their source in Canada is MODE Electronics in Burnaby BC.
      
      	Referring to either of these firms will bring forth a plethora (more
      than one pleth) of connectors and associated bits. Finding your source is
      your problem.....
      Regards, Ferg C-FFGG
      
      
Message 5
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Glider Wing Spar Mod 78 ready for order. | 
      
      To all Motor Glider Owners,
      
      
      Europa Aircraft has published Mod 78 and SBs 17 and 18 affecting the 
      motor glider wings and attachments.  The modifications have been 
      accomplished a number of times at the Europa Center and we believe that 
      the modifications to the spar are possible for the amateur builder.  The 
      Mod 78, Service Bulletins 17 and 18 and original BOM is attached so you 
      can see what is in the kit and the instructions.
      
      
      Mod 78 and Service Bulletins 17 and 18 are now published on the 
      www.europa-aircraft.com website if you have difficulty down loading from 
      this message.   The prices for the modification and options is listed 
      below, and as of my last look, the prices are not yet posted in the 
      Modifications section of the Europa website.  Glue availability in the 
      small quantities that were required for this mod and the huge shipping 
      costs of hazardous materials from the UK has been the reason for this 
      delay until now.   We have a Gurit supplier now established here in the 
      United States for Ampreg 21 which can supply in the smaller quantities 
      necessary.   For your information the manufacturer of the required 
      Ampreg 21 normally supplies in large volumes as this is a common marine 
      industry resin used in high performance racing boats and large 
      fabrication facilities using autoclave technology and therefore it is 
      not stocked in smaller quantities.   Listed below is the price for the 
      modification parts and glue supplies:
      
          
      
      Kit Price:
      
      Option 1 - Parts & Tooling : GBP =A3869.14  Or about $1480 US
      
      Option 2 - Parts, Tooling & Resin Kit : GBP =A31163.74  or $1980 US.  
      Shipping and Hazardous not included from the UK.  See below for US glue 
      option.
      
      Option 3 - Additional 2 off Wing Forward Pins (W25M78) for XS wings : 
      GBP =A396.74  or about $165 US  (These pins are required for those with 
      both sets of wings.)
      
      
      Note the resin kit is an extra 294 British Pounds or $500 US rather than 
      the $255 below and does not include the substantial shipping and 
      hazardous fees.
      
      
      Expect at least 4-6 weeks for the shipping of your kit depending on 
      volume.
      
      
      For US customers, listed  below is the Ampreg 21 dealer quote which is 
      now a couple of weeks old but indicative of the size and savings.  This 
      price does not include shipping or handling fees to Custom Flight 
      Creations which are normally very small in bulk orders of 6 or more.
      
      
      Stock                                    Name                            
                             Price                    Delivery Time
      
      
            F121-034
           AMPREG21 RESIN 10KG
           ea.
            $     155.16 
                  10 weeks 
            
            F121-036
           AMPREG21 HARD STD 3.33KG
           ea.
            $     100.199 
                   10 weeks 
             
      
      
      Note the delivery times.  If shipped by Custom Flight Creations from 
      Florida to US addresses, we can ship USPS ground and forgo the hazardous 
      fee rather than UPS which is an extra $65 minimum hazardous fee plus the 
      shipping.  USPS ground shipping will probably be about $30 US.
      
      
      Please indicate your order at the earliest at the addresses below or to 
      Europa via phone.  We will then assemble the kits and begin shipping.  
      
      
      There are suggested proposals to the wing spar cup elimination to 
      improve rigging ease and these will follow through the tech talk section 
      of the website.  Hopefully additional photo's will be included later for 
      techniques on the modification.
      
      
      For those not able to accomplish this modification or have concerns on 
      their ability to successfully accomplish this modification, Custom 
      Flight Creations is ramping up equipment and space to accomplish the 
      modification and will be ready in about 14 days to begin.
      
      
      Best Regards,
      
      
      Alan K. =93Bud=94 Yerly
      
      Europa Technical Representative
      
      Email direct:  budyerly@msn.com<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>
      
      mail@www.customflightcreations.com<about:mail@www.customflightcreations.c
      om>
      
      or order direct from Europa Aircraft (2004)
      
      +44 (0) 1751-431773
      
      
Message 6
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      All.
      
      I have a trailer that I used to use for my own Europa Tri Gear which I no
      longer own.
      The trailer is a custom made one, built originally for a mono wheel that wa
      s then converted for a tri gear. It is basically a flat bed trailer with th
      e
      necessary wing support brackets and hold down points and ramps. The ply dec
      k needs
      completely replacing and basically tidying but is a strong useful trailer f
      or an Europa
      owner.
      The trailer is currently in South Staffordshire.
      If anyone is interested please email me at cdspattingham@aol.com for furthe
      r information.
      
      Regards
      
      
      Paul Lowe
      
      
Message 7
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
      
      
      
      Mode S: 
      
      My understanding is that from March next year you must have 
      a Mode S transponder in airspace classes A-C and in TMZs. A mode C or A 
      transponder will not be legal. In other airspace (i.e. outside of UK 
      controlled airspace) it is less clear and not helped by random 
      statements in mags like Loop that suggest that ALL aircraft must have 
      Mode S. 
      
      Given that the reason for mandating Mode S is to prevent 
      potential saturation of the transponder RF 'environment' by the replies 
      from older mode A/C units, the logical thought is that the use of Mode 
      A/C transponders will be illegal everywhere, but I cannot find a 
      statement to that effect. The nearest I can find is that any 
      transponder fitted after March 2012 must be Mode S.
      
      The alternative is 
      that once the IFR aircraft are fitted with Mode S,  the RF environment 
      can cope with the remaining few Mode A/C units in our aircraft. If that 
      is the case then you are ok until you can no longer get it repaired, so 
      long as you never fly in class A to C airspace or TMZs. 
      
      The original 
      plan was to fit Mode S to everything because CAA would sponsor the 
      manufacture of a 'lightweight transponder' or LWT. This failed when it 
      was found that the technology could not be shrunk enough to be viable 
      in a portable battery powered device. Ever since then the information 
      to GA users has shrivelled and even now gliders are still being 
      threatened with Mode S for flights above FL100.
      
      A poorly communicated 
      piece of legislation.
      
      Ian 
      
      
Message 8
| 					INDEX |  Back to Main INDEX |  
| 				PREVIOUS |  Skip to PREVIOUS Message |  
| 					NEXT |  Skip to NEXT Message |  
| 	LIST |  Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |  
| 		SENDER |  Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |  
  | 
      
      
| Subject:  | Re: mono support when derigged | 
      
      Hi Ron, Graeme and others
      
      
      Here are couple of more ideas to support mono w/o 
      wings.
      
      Obviously there are unlimited amount of ways to 
      support Mono when she need it.
      
      
      Cheers, Raimo Toivio
      
      
      Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
      
      Updated flight hours /landings: 242,2
      
      37500 Lempaala
      FINLAND
      
      p +358-3-3753 777
      f +358-3-3753 100
      
      toivio@fly.to
      www.rwm.fi
      
      
      -----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- 
      From: rparigoris
      Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 1:02 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: Re: mono support when 
      derigged
      
      <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      
      Hi Graeme
      
      A few ideas:
      http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=77261
      
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331280#331280
      
      
      browse
      Un/Subscription,
      FAQ,
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
      Forums!
      List Admin.
      
      
 
Other Matronics Email List Services
 
 
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
 
 
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
  
 |