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Wed 08/24/11


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 02:13 AM - Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking? (Richard Lamprey)
     2. 07:53 AM - Re: Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking? (Jeff B)
     3. 10:40 AM - Re: Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking? (Terry Seaver (terrys))
     4. 05:14 PM - Electric winch or hand crank? (Martin Tuck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:13:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking?
    From: "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
    Greetings from Kenya, using the new modern approach of communication with the forum (thanks Ira!) My Europa is classic, Rotax 912 UL, Warpdrive ground-adjusted prop. 550 hours on the engine. The airfield altitude is 5500, the temperature was 28 C, so hot and high but we are used to that. Yesterday, I landed and back-tracked the runway, and on backtrack the engine suddenly lost power. Full power to expedite the backtrack, she ran very rough, almost cutting out. Reducing on the throttle just gave me a smooth 3000 rpm, enough to move slowly. Back at the hangar, I opened up the cowlings, ran a fuel flow check, no problems, plenty of fuel pressure (200% of max requirements). Cleaned the plugs (quite clean, nothing unusual). Checked for full deflection of the throttle cable at both carb ends, no problem there. The vapour return line was clear, so no problem there. I closed up, did full power run up, no problems, flew for another 15 minutes without incident. Could this be due to vapour lock in the fuel lines under the cowling? The fuel lines from fuel pump back to carbs runs in fire-sleeve along the top right side of the engine, but I think this is pretty standard. On the previous landing I had to go around, so full power and she was running quite hot, but nothing unusual. We use unleaded petrol (95 octane), and I have read somewhere that in UK you should not use mogas above 6000 density altitude due to vapour locking characteristics. So every takeoff we do here is above this altitude anyway. Does anyone have an idea of what caused this? Best Richard Classic 5Y-LRY Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350410#350410


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    Time: 07:53:42 AM PST US
    From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking?
    Richard, Two things... Yes, it could be vapor lock. Check fuel lines and insulate as needed. I used the orange silicone, 2000 degree cover and it works well. Second, check to see that you don't have a leaky exhaust that might allow heat to get to the carb bowls. This will boil the fuel in them and cause the same effect as vapor lock. Hope this helps. Jeff - Baby Blue On 8/24/2011 4:09 AM, Richard Lamprey wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Lamprey"<lamprey.richard@gmail.com> > > Greetings from Kenya, using the new modern approach of communication with the forum (thanks Ira!) > > My Europa is classic, Rotax 912 UL, Warpdrive ground-adjusted prop. 550 hours on the engine. The airfield altitude is 5500, the temperature was 28 C, so hot and high but we are used to that. > > Yesterday, I landed and back-tracked the runway, and on backtrack the engine suddenly lost power. Full power to expedite the backtrack, she ran very rough, almost cutting out. Reducing on the throttle just gave me a smooth 3000 rpm, enough to move slowly. Back at the hangar, I opened up the cowlings, ran a fuel flow check, no problems, plenty of fuel pressure (200% of max requirements). Cleaned the plugs (quite clean, nothing unusual). Checked for full deflection of the throttle cable at both carb ends, no problem there. The vapour return line was clear, so no problem there. I closed up, did full power run up, no problems, flew for another 15 minutes without incident. > > Could this be due to vapour lock in the fuel lines under the cowling? The fuel lines from fuel pump back to carbs runs in fire-sleeve along the top right side of the engine, but I think this is pretty standard. On the previous landing I had to go around, so full power and she was running quite hot, but nothing unusual. We use unleaded petrol (95 octane), and I have read somewhere that in UK you should not use mogas above 6000 density altitude due to vapour locking characteristics. So every takeoff we do here is above this altitude anyway. > > Does anyone have an idea of what caused this? > > Best > Richard > Classic 5Y-LRY > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350410#350410 > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >


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    Time: 10:40:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking?
    From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
    We have a mono-wheel XS with a 912S and have had vapor lock on several occasions, on the ground and in the air. We solved the problem by putting some aluminized heat mat on the underside of the carb bowls and fuel lines and fittings near the carbs that are too small to be covered in fire sleeve. This protected those parts from the heat of the rear exhaust headers. Regards, Terry Seaver A135/N135TD -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:10 AM Subject: Europa-List: Power loss, on taxi, vapour locking? Greetings from Kenya, using the new modern approach of communication with the forum (thanks Ira!) My Europa is classic, Rotax 912 UL, Warpdrive ground-adjusted prop. 550 hours on the engine. The airfield altitude is 5500, the temperature was 28 C, so hot and high but we are used to that. Yesterday, I landed and back-tracked the runway, and on backtrack the engine suddenly lost power. Full power to expedite the backtrack, she ran very rough, almost cutting out. Reducing on the throttle just gave me a smooth 3000 rpm, enough to move slowly. Back at the hangar, I opened up the cowlings, ran a fuel flow check, no problems, plenty of fuel pressure (200% of max requirements). Cleaned the plugs (quite clean, nothing unusual). Checked for full deflection of the throttle cable at both carb ends, no problem there. The vapour return line was clear, so no problem there. I closed up, did full power run up, no problems, flew for another 15 minutes without incident. Could this be due to vapour lock in the fuel lines under the cowling? The fuel lines from fuel pump back to carbs runs in fire-sleeve along the top right side of the engine, but I think this is pretty standard. On the previous landing I had to go around, so full power and she was running quite hot, but nothing unusual. We use unleaded petrol (95 octane), and I have read somewhere that in UK you should not use mogas above 6000 density altitude due to vapour locking characteristics. So every takeoff we do here is above this altitude anyway. Does anyone have an idea of what caused this? Best Richard Classic 5Y-LRY Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350410#350410


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    Time: 05:14:50 PM PST US
    From: Martin Tuck <MJKTuck@cs.com>
    Subject: Electric winch or hand crank?
    Hi Folks, I think I asked this question before but I couldn't have kept the responses. Someone recommended a electric powered winch to pull my monowheel onto its trailer. I've read some reviews on Amazon but there are diametrically opposed views on how good a job they do. The main complaint being how slow they are or not very well built. Ideally I would want one with a remote but I can't seem to find one with a wireless remote, some have a wired remote but the cable seems too short as I want to hold onto the wingtip to keep it level while the winch does it's thing. Alternatively I could keep it simple and use a hand crank - but the wings will need to be kept level. I have made some attachments which help some but once the tipping momentum gets going on side or the other my hinged spring legs give way. You guys that use a trailer all time must be using something. It takes me a good 30 mins to get everything up on the trailer and seemingly a lot of physical strength - not good when temps are in the 80s and 90s. Also, when cranking what is the best thing to attach the cable to? Cable round the axle on the side opposite to the brake came to mind. Not sure I would want to pull on the tailwheel although that seems an obvious choice. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Not much flying this summer - we have had 45 days of 100+ F temps in Wichita so far this year. The record is 50 days. Today was 106 deg F. Phew! Regards, Martin Tuck N152MT Wichita, Kansas




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