---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/06/11: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:03 AM - Re: corrosion on pitch torque tube (Jan de Jong) 2. 01:58 AM - Re: corrosion on pitch torque tube (G-IANI) 3. 04:40 AM - Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm (houlihan) 4. 08:15 AM - Re: Co-pilot - just for in case... (Paul McAllister) 5. 08:28 AM - Four Europa Nations "Cheers" together (Raimo Toivio) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:56 AM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Re: Europa-List: corrosion on pitch torque tube I use KBS 3-step system on all steel parts. Adheres amazingly. Jan de Jong > > I found my steel pitch tube (the one that goes on the back of the > cockpit module) has surface corrosion, mostly near the tab weld > joints. I suspect the plating must have been stripped off during the > welding process. The tube is dark brown, almost black, and I am unsure > if that means it is zinc plated or something else. I was thinking of > scrubbing the whole tube in alumiprep (dilute phosphoric acid) and > then painting with zinc chromate primer. I don't have any experience > working with this type of steel, and what effect if any phosphoric > acid has, so I would appreciate any input on this. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:06 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: corrosion on pitch torque tube Andrew If your CS10 is dark brown/black then it will not have been plated. The steel components were shipped with this oil finish up to about 2002/3 when Europa started plating them (the gold finish). The oil finish will prevent some corrosion but a better solution is to clean and paint the component. As your end caps are already in place try and ensure you do not get any acid cleaner inside the tube. This will corrode the MS21047 anchor nut and could make future removal difficult. Almost any paint system designed for steel will do. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 350hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:46 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm From: houlihan Hi UK flyer's and builders If you are not going to Texel this coming weekend you will be welcome at Croft farm in Worcestershire to give a group of scouts some air experience. The scouts will be having training in weather, navigation, aerodynamics and airfields etc. They will prepare a navigation exercise ( a 15 minute triangle ) and then have a short flight to obtain their scout badge ! Honest it is good fun ! if you can help in any way the Scouts would be very happy.. Contact me for more details . regards Tim Houlihan ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Co-pilot - just for in case... From: Paul McAllister Gee I can't even to that.... maybe you had better teach me as well do not archive On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote: > Hi All > > I have asked and my wife has permitted me to educate her unoffiacially to > fly our Europa. > > That is only just for in case ' if something will happen to me when > airborne (with our daughters), it is a much more relaxing case when she i s > capable enough to take controls. > > We have only two missions: > > 1) she have to navigate from any location to the nearest possible airfiel d > or landing area. > > 2) she have to make a succesful landing (= all the passengers can walk out > using their own legs and hands only) > > 3) she have to know how to select an emergency frequency and how to talk to > radio =93Hi I am Marke and now I am piloting this machine OH-XRT...reques t > some assistance...=94. > > It is not obvious that same time she should handle simultaneously technic al > multifailures and horrible storm winds. Just fly home and land safe enoug h > (with a groundloop or not). > > To get an ability to do this, she has followed me to fly hundreds of hour s > and we have talked much about flying. > > During this summer I have given the controls of the plane for her several > times. > > Yesterday it was a time for a final step. We were over the base at 3000 f t > and practised low speed flight until she was capable enough to keep the > altitude and the heading at the speed 60 knots with flaps and gears and a t > the speed 70 knots with a clean configuration, also some turns. > > Once again we repeated how to find a suitable landing place through GPS. > > *** > > She was using IFR goggles when I flied half an hour away and made several > maneuvers until she had now idea where we were. > Then she took the controls, pressed =93Go Nrst=94, made a choise EFTP, =93Enter=94 > and =93Enter=94. > Now she had a heading bug home, with autopilot or not (she wanted to fly be > herself). > She decided to join direct to the long final 24. > Her glideslope was just perfect, speed was 70 knots like nailed. > There was some difficulties to lower the gears using left hand from the > co-pilot seat but se managed to do it and also lock them ' she got gree n > lights. > Landing was smooth ' it was almost calm. > I took controls just after touch down ' it was not necessary for our he alth > but maybe to prevent some possible damages for the plane (as we all > Mono-pilots know, it is a bit wild to handle and needs full time authorit y > just after touch down and just before rotateing). > > *** > > I am so proud of her. This a good insurance and gives some equanimity for > us. > > I recommend! > > > Cheers, Raimo Toivio > > [image: Europa A2A-ala2OK] > > Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 > > Updated flight hours /landings: 248,6 /445 > 37500 Lempaala > FINLAND > > p +358-3-3753 777 > f +358-3-3753 100 > > toivio@fly.to > www.rwm.fi**** > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:40 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Europa-List: Four Europa Nations "Cheers" together Europa connects happy people: Four men with their Ladies and Europas, representing all the Scandinavian countries (excluding Island) with cross flags met in the middle of Sweden in the Siljansnaes Fly-inn ESVS 13th of August 2011. >From left to right Stegan Ingemarsson, Sweden, SE-XRX Trigear, flied from north (eh, south) Claus Buhrman, Danmark, SE-XVT Trigear, flied from south Raimo Toivio, Finland, OH-XRT Mono, flied from east Stephan Cassel, Norway, LN-STE Mono flied from west Cheers, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 Updated flight hours /landings: 250,7 /447 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.