---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/08/11: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:27 AM - Re: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm (Alasdair Milne) 2. 02:20 AM - NSI VP Prop brushes (kingsnjan@westnet.com.au) 3. 04:00 AM - Re: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm (houlihan) 4. 04:22 AM - Scouts at Croft farm (houlihan) 5. 08:28 AM - Re: NSI VP Prop brushes (Bob Fairall) 6. 08:32 AM - Europa Trigear Trailer (Martin Olliver) 7. 08:44 AM - Re: Europa Trigear Trailer (Trevpond@aol.com) 8. 08:55 AM - Re: Europa Trigear Trailer (Martin Olliver) 9. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Europa Trigear Trailer (Trevpond@aol.com) 10. 01:43 PM - Re: Europa Trigear Trailer (Frans Veldman) 11. 03:40 PM - Re: NSI VP Prop brushes (kingsnjan@westnet.com.au) 12. 04:21 PM - Re: Europa Trigear Trailer (Martin Olliver) 13. 05:39 PM - Re: NSI VP Prop brushes (Tony Renshaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:35 AM PST US From: "Alasdair Milne" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm Dear Tim, I am booked to go to Texel but the weather looks bad/iffy so please send me the details and I will use your fly in as my stand by. Please forgive me for the implied slight! Did you manage to Sywell last weekend? I booked an early slot both Saturday and Sunday. Cloudbase at Brimpton was below 1000ft on Saturday until the afternoon, being continuously TAFed that it would clear imminently so that I ended up too late to either drive or fly and on Sunday it rained until noon. Still hoping that this weekend will be better. Yours, Alasdair From: houlihan Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:37 PM Subject: Europa-List: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm Hi UK flyer's and builders If you are not going to Texel this coming weekend you will be welcome at Croft farm in Worcestershire to give a group of scouts some air experience. The scouts will be having training in weather, navigation, aerodynamics and airfields etc. They will prepare a navigation exercise ( a 15 minute triangle ) and then have a short flight to obtain their scout badge ! Honest it is good fun ! if you can help in any way the Scouts would be very happy.. Contact me for more details . regards Tim Houlihan ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:19 AM PST US From: kingsnjan@westnet.com.au Subject: Europa-List: NSI VP Prop brushes Is there anyone out there who knows where to source the brushes that transfer power to the slip rings on an NSI VP prop please? Thanks in anticipation Kingsley in Oz ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:00:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford Croft farm From: houlihan Hi Alasdair Thanks for thinking of the scouts if you cannot get to Texel, I agreed to the scouts event before I knew the Texel details and would have liked to get to both but that the way things are !. The meeting is to be held at Defford croft farm, information is available on their web site http://www.defford-croftfarm.co.uk/ All the information required can be found there including live weather from a local site. Pilots are invited by the Scouts organisation and will be asked to sign a simple form indicating that they meet the new reduced requirements. A signature is all that is required, no documents needed on the day. I have attached a copy of the form for you to check that all is OK. All that is required is lots of common sense, follow any marshaller signals and stay safe. Ron Shell will be there with his pancake machine so we should not go hungry. More info if you need it from me or John Bean. Best regards Tim Houlihan ps I am at school today so I will send the document mentioned when I get home I hope to catch up with you on Saturday but only if you do not get to Texel. On 8 September 2011 08:24, Alasdair Milne wrote: > Dear Tim, > > I am booked to go to Texel but the weather looks bad/iffy so please send me > the details and I will use your fly in as my stand by. Please forgive me > for the implied slight! > > Did you manage to Sywell last weekend? I booked an early slot both > Saturday and Sunday. Cloudbase at Brimpton was below 1000ft on Saturday > until the afternoon, being continuously TAFed that it would clear imminently > so that I ended up too late to either drive or fly and on Sunday it rained > until noon. > > Still hoping that this weekend will be better. > > Yours, > > Alasdair > > *From:* houlihan > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2011 12:37 PM > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Scouts air experience this weekend at Defford > Croft farm > > Hi UK flyer's and builders > > If you are not going to Texel this coming weekend you will be welcome at > Croft farm in Worcestershire to give a group of scouts some air experience. > > The scouts will be having training in weather, navigation, aerodynamics and > airfields etc. They will prepare a navigation exercise ( a 15 minute > triangle ) and then have a short flight to obtain their scout badge ! > > Honest it is good fun ! if you can help in any way the Scouts would be > very happy.. > > Contact me for more details . > > regards > > Tim Houlihan > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:58 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Scouts at Croft farm From: houlihan Sorry guys that last email should only have gone to Alasdair. finger trouble again ! Tim ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:48 AM PST US From: Bob Fairall Subject: RE: Europa-List: NSI VP Prop brushes One possible source is Dave Charlesworth - DCHARLESWORTH3@aol.com - UK based. Bob Fairall -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kingsnjan@westnet.com.au Sent: 08 September 2011 10:17 Subject: Europa-List: NSI VP Prop brushes Is there anyone out there who knows where to source the brushes that transfer power to the slip rings on an NSI VP prop please? Thanks in anticipation Kingsley in Oz ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa Trigear Trailer From: "Martin Olliver" I am refurbishing a stock four wheel Europa trigear trailer with tilt bed. Can any one who has this type advise me if a winch is required, as it came without one? I am guessing that it is. If that is the case what would be the best position to fit the winch? Would a hand operated or electric winch be best as I am thinking of a one man operation? Thank you. Martin Olliver Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351736#351736 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:40 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Trigear Trailer Hi Martin, I have a four wheel trigear trailer and it is only of use with an electric winch - they sell them at machine mart. It's handy if you can weld a battery box in the trailer and of course a plate to mount the winch on the centre line. best regards Trevor G-LINN In a message dated 08/09/2011 16:33:03 GMT Daylight Time, martflynut@aol.com writes: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Martin Olliver" I am refurbishing a stock four wheel Europa trigear trailer with tilt bed. Can any one who has this type advise me if a winch is required, as it came without one? I am guessing that it is. If that is the case what would be the best position to fit the winch? Would a hand operated or electric winch be best as I am thinking of a one man operation? Thank you. Martin Olliver Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351736#351736 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Trigear Trailer From: "Martin Olliver" Thanks Trevor. Will look into that. What attachment points (wheel struts) and arrangements do you use? Do you have any other advice re the trailer from your experience? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351740#351740 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:34 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa Trigear Trailer Martin, I cut a slot approx 3 inches wide at each end of the mainwheel pads and then used ratchet tie down straps under the pads and through the slots. Ratchet up until tyre flattens a bit and I guarantee that there will be no movement. I made up a length of seatbelt material with a loop at each end and then put the hook of the winch wire through one end and attach the other to the nose gear frame to get the aircraft onto the trailer. regards Trevor In a message dated 08/09/2011 16:56:13 GMT Daylight Time, martflynut@aol.com writes: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Martin Olliver" Thanks Trevor. Will look into that. What attachment points (wheel struts) and arrangements do you use? Do you have any other advice re the trailer from your experience? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351740#351740 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:57 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Trigear Trailer On 09/08/2011 05:30 PM, Martin Olliver wrote: > I am refurbishing a stock four wheel Europa trigear trailer with tilt > bed. Can any one who has this type advise me if a winch is required, Yes, you need a winch. I bought a new <100 US$ electrical winch with remote control on ebay, and it is perfect for the task. You need to add two attachment points on the airplane, one next to each main gear leg. Then route two cables from the winch to these attachment points. The cables meet the single rope from the winch somewhere close to the tail. By adjusting the length of the two cables you can cause the trailer to align itself automatically with the trailer. Do not try to winch the airplane with a single attachment point near the tail, as the tail rises up when the airplane crawls up the bed. The winch tries to pull the tail down, and much stress is put on both the airplane and the winch construction. I have the winch mounted just behind the "brake assembly" (I guess this assembly has a name in English but I'm not sure what it is). Although my car delivers 12 Volts to the trailer, I added a small battery to the trailer itself because of the high load of the winch. The battery is automatically recharged by the car while driving. (I also have a ground cable on the airplane so the airplane's batteries are recharged automatically as well while it is on the trailer. One warning with this trailer: Do NOT use the tailplane stands, it will wiggle everything loose while driving. I made two wooden boxes on the "triangle" of the trailer which contains the tail planes. Make sure to measure the load on the tow hook: In my case it came out with a whopping 140 Kg's. My 1972 Mercedes I use for towing has air suspension and won't sag a millimeter, but 140Kg's is just to much for most cars. I solved this problem my adding end stops for the main gear so the airplane stays a bit more to the rear of the trailer. Another thing I found out is the best way to secure the airplane. You definitely need to secure the tail. I added a "tow hook" on the airplane and when on the trailer I attach two steel cables with a spring in them. The springs are needed because of the flex of the trailer itself. You shouldn't abuse the airplane by using it as a device to stiffen up the trailer. The nose gear is my main attachment point. I have made a clamp that goes over the axle of the nose wheel. If you ommit this, you will find out that sooner or later the airplane turns slightly and any bump in the road will cause the nose wheel to jump up and land besides the ramp. Don's ask me how I know... Just make sure you secure the nose wheel to the trailer. Oh, and never forget to install a very strong rudder lock. I didn't had one the first time I had the airplane on the trailer and the first truck that passed in the opposite direction smacked the rudder to the other side. This was enough to cause a crack in the hinge. Luckily the airplane wasn't finished yet so I could easily repair the damage (and stiffen up the hinge area with some uni perpedicular to the crack so a future mistake or tail slide ( ;-) ) won't cause the same damage again. I'm very satisfied with this setup, and we use it every time we are going to fly because we have the airplane hangared at home. It drives very stable and 100Km/h is our standard speed on the way to the airport. We rig the airplane directly on the trailer, and the whole operation from trailered to unloaded and ready to fly takes 15 minutes. We refuel directly at a road gas station so at the airport we don't have to refuel. Initially I was afraid that driving the airplane wouldn't be good for the gyro's but now with 130 hours the gyro's still sound as new. Frans ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:40:58 PM PST US From: kingsnjan@westnet.com.au Subject: Re: Europa-List: NSI VP Prop brushes > One possible source is Dave Charlesworth - DCHARLESWORTH3@aol.com - UK based. > Bob Fairall Many thanks Bob, much appreciated. Kingsley do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:21:36 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Trigear Trailer From: "Martin Olliver" Thank you Frans & Trevor. All the info noted and will be used. Martin. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=351770#351770 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:52 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: NSI VP Prop brushes Well Kingsley, I am going to London remember!! The Plaza on the River 18 Albert Embankment Look up the rest on net, & I will be there mid Sunday-Tuesday. Not much time but maybe if u move in it. TR On 09/09/2011, at 8:36 AM, kingsnjan@westnet.com.au wrote: > > >> One possible source is Dave Charlesworth - DCHARLESWORTH3@aol.com - UK based. > >> Bob Fairall > > Many thanks Bob, much appreciated. > > Kingsley > > do not archive > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.