---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/07/11: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:04 AM - Re: Naca vents (Max Cointe) 2. 01:34 AM - Europa full panel (mau11) 3. 01:42 AM - AW: CAD file of instrument panel (UVTReith) 4. 01:52 AM - Re: Re: Entry to the UK (David Joyce) 5. 02:37 AM - Re: Battery Location with a 914 (David Joyce) 6. 04:13 AM - Entry to Belgium and the Channel Islands (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen) 7. 06:35 AM - Re: Naca vents (Peter Jeffers) 8. 07:40 AM - Re: Naca vents (Karl Heindl) 9. 07:56 AM - Re: Naca vents (AirEupora) 10. 08:17 AM - Re: AW: CAD file of instrument panel (europapa) 11. 08:30 AM - Re: Naca vents (tennant) 12. 09:10 AM - Re: Naca vents (Trevpond@aol.com) 13. 10:13 AM - Re: CAD file of instrument panel (europapa) 14. 02:04 PM - Re: Naca vents (Karl Heindl) 15. 02:48 PM - Re: Naca vents (Trevor Pond) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:04:50 AM PST US From: "Max Cointe" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi There all, As French we are used to play with clitoris, but I must admit that I broke one of the green Russian spiral. Has anybody one available? Do you think Europa delivers it (I didn=92t ask yet)? Cheers Max Cointe F-PMLH Tri Gear #560 912 ULS Airmaster 400 hours mcointe@free.fr De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Raimo Toivio Envoy=E9 : jeudi 6 octobre 2011 20:13 =C0 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Bob and Pete They work fine if adjust them just with a bit tender! It is very easy if same time have a bit imagination that (The Knob) is a sweet clitoris. Do not broke it! Maybe that (ability to use those Naca vents with Russian vertical spiral) is deep inside in a Finnish nature: we have lived thousands of years just west from Russia and our borderline is about 1000 miles long. Raimo OH-XRT Finland PS: if honest during the building phase I hated them. But there were so many things I would have liked to do otherway or change. But I had not competence to do so. And did not want to use even more money. Hey I had a complete aircraft kit they said! So I decided to go on with those vents. And using them gently they have worked just fine. If I remember correct these are new ones ' I also did broke them when trying them first time...and that is why I strenghtened them some how ' maybe by using large area washers or so. RT do archive! From: Robert Borger Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ball Joints Raimo, On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote: One limitation: we call that plastic screw =93fucken Russian vertical spiral=94. The end stops are weak and will broken easily. That's why we dislike them. Cheep, crapy, miserable adjustments. They broke the first time I attempted to open/close them (thankfully, before they were installed). And they are not repairable. So they went into the dust bin and I bought outrageously expensive but completely functional vents (Ultimate Ventilators) from ACS. Bob Borger Rebuilding the instrument panel and working on a major weight reduction program for The Little Dragon Lady. She has to loose about 50 lbs (that's 3 Stone 8 for you guys in the UK). And the CG has to go back into the middle of the range. A new, light weight, low power, panel along with removal of the big alternator should take care of most of that. Cel 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:34:09 AM PST US From: "mau11" Subject: Europa-List: Europa full panel X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 26 [cn] Hello all, Does anyone have drawings and or pictures of monowheel full panel (total wide of the fuselage) ? Files DXF, DWG or other. Many thanks Michel AUVRAY Builder 145 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:01 AM PST US From: "UVTReith" Subject: AW: Europa-List: CAD file of instrument panel Hi J=FCrgen, Instrument panels you can get from Europa Aircraft for quite small money. They also have panel cuts with the Dynon D 100. I have made my aluminium panels by myself. It needs some time but you can place your instruments where you want (see picture). Good Luck, Bruno -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von europapa Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2011 22:54 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: CAD file of instrument panel Hi, I am about to make a new instrument panel and will replace all my vacuum driven avionics with an Dynon D-100. I would like to use a laser cut service but the laser will only move with the right software. I am absolutely unexperienced in this matter. Has somebody got a file of the shape of the main panel? Or can somebody help me with the whole project? Where can I find the plate to close the whole where the vacuum pump has been mounted? Thank you Juergen D-EBOA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354215#354215 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:48 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Entry to the UK Barry, Yes we had a fine trip (Dresden/Prague/Jena) except that homeward journey on Weds was in the face of strong head winds (max 47kts!!) all the way with 28kts, gusting 38kts on landing in UK, fortunately only 20 degrees off runway heading. Belgium requires prior permission for homebuilts and charges 80+ euros for looking at your papers. Certainly loads of planes fly from UK along Belgian coastline to Holland and haven't got shot down, but if involved in an incident there is scope for them to get nasty with you. I am in the middle of complaining to the Belgian government and EASA about it, having refused to pay, and in the hope of bringing them into line with the rest of Europe. Have you seen the Guide to Flying in Europe which details which countries demand PPR- copy attached? Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "tennant" Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Entry to the UK > > > Hi David, > > I hope that you had a good trip. > > What is the problem with Belgium? > > I have been in and out of there often and always overfly without any > problem. > > Barry > > -------- > Barry Tennant > D-EHBT > At EDLM - Germany > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354197#354197 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:32 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Battery Location with a 914 Tony, My mono/914/Woodcomp wobbly prop/fully equipped panel set up has the Odyssey battery sitting over the pax footwell in front of the firewall, where it sits in a small moulded tray secured by a nylon strap. It left the C o G in reasonable position, but to achieve what I calculated as the ideal position, I fitted 3lb lead block in front of the stern post. ( Giving position 58.96" which allows any combination of pax 150 - 400lbs/baggage 0-80lbs/fuel0-110lbs) I suspect that the saving in extra heavy duty cable. and support for a rear mounting more or less makes up for the 3 lbs weight and it is certainly more convenient in the engine department. So I wouldn't assume that you have a C o G problem, and would be strongly tempted to plan a forward location until proved otherwise. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Renshaw" Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:27 PM Subject: Europa-List: Battery Location with a 914 Gidday, I have set up a rear battery location for my battery on the assumption that I will have a CoG problem. I have a 914 with an Airmaster prop, and a normal panel. Suffice to say, can I presume that I might need weight in the tail and therefore having the battery back there is a good option, or can I confidently place it under the baggage bay shelf ? I am about to buy cabling for the battery which is why I am asking at this point. If I do keep the aft location I am trying to work out a lightweight containment that will accept a decent deceleration. The back of my head looks better without a battery in the back of it. I have thought of using rudder cable looped aft under the tailwheel leg attachment point, and then forward onto the battery box. This Odyssey battery at least comes in a metal battery case. Any input much appreciated. Thanks Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gidday, I have set up a rear battery location for my battery on the assumption that I will have a CoG problem. I have a 914 with an Airmaster prop, and a normal panel. Suffice to say, can I presume that I might need weight in the tail and therefore having the battery back there is a good option, or can I confidently place it under the baggage bay shelf ? I am about to buy cabling for the battery which is why I am asking at this point. If I do keep the aft location I am trying to work out a lightweight containment that will accept a decent deceleration. The back of my head looks better without a battery in the back of it. I have thought of using rudder cable looped aft under the tailwheel leg attachment point, and then forward onto the battery box. This Odyssey battery at least comes in a metal battery case. Any input much appreciated. Thanks Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:56 AM PST US From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: Europa-List: Entry to Belgium and the Channel Islands David, >>I am in the middle of complaining to the Belgian government and EASA about it, having refused to pay, and in the hope of bringing them into line with the rest of Europe. << Very good, David. Stephan and I each parted with 80 to fly along the Belgian coastline to/from Popham this summer. Hope to avoid it next time! >>Have you seen the Guide to Flying in Europe which details which countries demand PPR- copy attached?<< The Channel Islands are listed as non-PPR. This is correct only for UK-registered aircraft operating on Permit to Fly. For non-UK aircraft the approval/permission is from the Director of Civil Aviation, who can be contacted by email on: dca@gov.je. Stephan and I got permissions this way (quickly, friendly and at no charge) both for Jersey and Guernsey, but poor weather before and after Popham forced us to cancel visits to these nice islands. Regards, Svein Johnsen LN-SKJ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:21 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi Max, Europa will probably be able to supply them but they get them from Aircraft Spruce in California. Pete _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Max Cointe Sent: 07 October 2011 09:01 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi There all, As French we are used to play with clitoris, but I must admit that I broke one of the green Russian spiral. Has anybody one available? Do you think Europa delivers it (I didn=92t ask yet)? Cheers Max Cointe F-PMLH Tri Gear #560 912 ULS Airmaster 400 hours mcointe@free.fr De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Raimo Toivio Envoy=E9 : jeudi 6 octobre 2011 20:13 =C0 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Bob and Pete They work fine if adjust them just with a bit tender! It is very easy if same time have a bit imagination that (The Knob) is a sweet clitoris. Do not broke it! Maybe that (ability to use those Naca vents with Russian vertical spiral) is deep inside in a Finnish nature: we have lived thousands of years just west from Russia and our borderline is about 1000 miles long. Raimo OH-XRT Finland PS: if honest during the building phase I hated them. But there were so many things I would have liked to do otherway or change. But I had not competence to do so. And did not want to use even more money. Hey I had a complete aircraft kit they said! So I decided to go on with those vents. And using them gently they have worked just fine. If I remember correct these are new ones ' I also did broke them when trying them first time...and that is why I strenghtened them some how ' maybe by using large area washers or so. RT do archive! From: Robert Borger Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ball Joints Raimo, On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote: One limitation: we call that plastic screw =93fucken Russian vertical spiral=94. The end stops are weak and will broken easily. That's why we dislike them. Cheep, crapy, miserable adjustments. They broke the first time I attempted to open/close them (thankfully, before they were installed). And they are not repairable. So they went into the dust bin and I bought outrageously expensive but completely functional vents (Ultimate Ventilators) from ACS. Bob Borger Rebuilding the instrument panel and working on a major weight reduction program for The Little Dragon Lady. She has to loose about 50 lbs (that's 3 Stone 8 for you guys in the UK). And the CG has to go back into the middle of the range. A new, light weight, low power, panel along with removal of the big alternator should take care of most of that. Cel 817-992-1117 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:54 AM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents The vent mechanism is crap. Mine also broke long before I finished building .For a few dollars ACS supply a repair kit=2C which is unbreakable. Cheers=2C Karl From: pjeffers@talktalk.net Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi Max=2C Europa will probably be able to supply them but they get them from Aircraft Spruce in California. Pete From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Max Cointe Sent: 07 October 2011 09:01 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi There all=2C As French we are used to play with clitoris=2C but I must admit that I broke one of the gree n Russian spiral. Has anybody one available? Do you think Europa delivers it (I didn=92t ask yet)? Cheers Max Cointe F-PMLH Tri Gear #560 912 ULS Airmaster 400 hours mcointe@free.fr De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Raimo Toivio Envoy=E9 : jeudi 6 octobre 2011 20:13 =C0 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Bob and Pete They work fine if adjust them just with a bit tender! It is very easy if same time have a bit imagination that (The Knob) is a sweet clitoris. Do not bro ke it! Maybe that (ability to use those Naca vents with Russian vertical spiral) is deep inside in a Finn ish nature: we have lived thousands of years just west from Russia and our borderline is about 1000 miles long. Raimo OH-XRT Finland PS: if honest during the building phase I hated them. But there were so many things I would have liked to do otherway or change. But I had not competence to do so. And did not want to use even more money. Hey I had a complete aircraft kit they said! So I decided to go on with those vents. And using them gently they have wor ked just fine. If I remember correct these are new ones ' I also did broke them when trying them first time...and that is why I strenghtened them some how ' maybe by using large area washers or so. RT do archive! From: Robert Borger Sent: Thursday=2C October 06=2C 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ball Joints Raimo=2C On Oct 6=2C 2011=2C at 8:58 AM=2C Raimo Toivio wrote: One limitation: we call that plastic screw =93fucken Russian vertical spiral=94. The end stops are weak and will broken easily. That's why we dislike them. Cheep=2C crapy=2C miserable adjustments. They broke the first time I attempted to open/close them (thankfully=2C before they were installed). And they are not repairable. So they went into the dust bin and I bought outrageously expensive but completely functional vents (Ultimate Ventilators) from ACS. Bob Borger Rebuilding the instrument panel and working on a major weight reduction program for The Li ttle Dragon Lady. She has to loose about 50 lbs (that's 3 Stone 8 for you guys in the UK). And the CG has to go back into the middle of the range. A new=2C light weight=2C low power=2C panel along with removal of the big a lternator should take care of most of that. Cel 817-992-1117 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronics.c om http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/06/11 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:39 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Naca vents From: "AirEupora" The co-pilot's vent broke at the base of the plastic screw the first time I tried to open it after installing it. I used super glue , but there is a small opening when closed. I figured that I'd have to tape over it during the winter months or when I went to 12-13K. Has anybody coming up with a good fix? I'm going to the paint shop in the next couple of weeks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354281#354281 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:55 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: AW: CAD file of instrument panel From: "europapa" Thank you Bruno! I am convinced, think some work is better than trouble with incompatible files and wrong laser cuts. Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354282#354282 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Naca vents From: "tennant" I formed my own NACA vents and ended them at vents that I got from a car scrapyard. I think they are from a Ford Fiesta 1990's vintage. Fantastic. Robust & lots of air. I looked at the ones on offer at that time and thought that they were pretty junky & they do not seem to have improved! Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354283#354283 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:48 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Somebody mentioned a repair kit for the vent screw for ACS - any idea of a part number? Cheers Trev Pond G-LINN In a message dated 07/10/2011 14:35:53 GMT Daylight Time, pjeffers@talktalk.net writes: Hi Max, Europa will probably be able to supply them but they get them from Aircraft Spruce in California. Pete ____________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Max Cointe Sent: 07 October 2011 09:01 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi There all, As French we are used to play with clitoris, but I must admit that I broke one of the green Russian spiral. Has anybody one available? Do you think Europa delivers it (I didn=99t ask yet)? Cheers Max Cointe F-PMLH Tri Gear #560 912 ULS Airmaster 400 hours mcointe@free.fr De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Raimo Toivio Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 6 octobre 2011 20:13 =C3 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Bob and Pete They work fine if adjust them just with a bit tender! It is very easy if same time have a bit imagination that (The Knob) is a sweet clitoris. Do not broke it! Maybe that (ability to use those Naca vents with Russian vertical spiral) is deep inside in a Finnish nature: we have lived thousands of years just west from Russia and our borderline is about 1000 miles long. Raimo OH-XRT Finland PS: if honest during the building phase I hated them. But there were so many things I would have liked to do otherway or change. But I had not competence to do so. And did not want to use even more money. Hey I had a complete aircraft kit they said! So I decided to go on with those vents. And using them gently they have worked just fine. If I remember correct these are new ones =93 I also did broke them when trying them first time...and that is why I strenghtened them some how =93 maybe by using large area washe rs or so. RT do archive! From: _Robert Borger_ (mailto:rlborger@mac.com) Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ball Joints Raimo, On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote: One limitation: we call that plastic screw =9Cfucken Russian vertical spiral=9D . The end stops are weak and will broken easily. That's why we dislike them. Cheep, crapy, miserable adjustments. They broke the first time I attempted to open/close them (thankfully, before th ey were installed). And they are not repairable. So they went into the dus t bin and I bought outrageously expensive but completely functional vents (Ultimate Ventilators) from ACS. Bob Borger Rebuilding the instrument panel and working on a major weight reduction program for The Little Dragon Lady. She has to loose about 50 lbs (that's 3 Stone 8 for you guys in the UK). And the CG has to go back into the middl e of the range. A new, light weight, low power, panel along with removal of the big alternator should take care of most of that. Cel 817-992-1117 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ____________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) 10/06/11 (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:26 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: CAD file of instrument panel From: "europapa" Hi Greg, few hours ago I received my Dinon. Now I think it would be simple enough to make the tree cut outs by hand. Anyway thank you very much for your kind offer. Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=354291#354291 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:04:55 PM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents I can't find a number=2C it was a long time ago. I don't even see the Naca scoop in the current catlogue.I happen to have a spare set I can let you ha ve=2C if you are interested. Cheers =2C Karl From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Somebody mentioned a repair kit for the vent screw for ACS - any idea of a part number? Cheers Trev Pond G-LINN In a message dated 07/10/2011 14:35:53 GMT Daylight Time=2C pjeffers@talktalk.net writes: Hi Max=2C Europa will probably be able to supply them but they get them from Aircraft Spruce in Californ ia. Pete From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Max Cointe Sent: 07 October 2011 09:01 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents Hi There all=2C As French we are used to play with clitoris=2C but I must admit that I broke one of the green Russian spiral. Has anybody one available? Do you think Europa delivers it (I didn=92t ask yet)? Cheers Max Cointe F-PMLH Tri Gear #560 912 ULS Airmaster 400 hours mcointe@free.fr De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Raimo Toivi o Envoy=E9 : jeudi 6 octobre 2011 20:13 =C0 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: Naca vents Bob and Pete They work fine if adjust them just with a bit tender! It is very easy if same time have a bit imagination that (The Knob) is a sweet clito ris. Do not broke it! Maybe that (ability to use those Naca vents with Russian vertical spiral) is deep in side in a Finnish nature: we have lived thousands of years just west from Russ ia and our borderline is about 1000 miles long. Raimo OH-XRT Finland PS: if honest during the building phase I hated them. But there were so many thi ngs I would have liked to do otherway or change. But I had not competence to do so. And did not want to use even more money. Hey I had a complete aircraft ki t they said! So I decided to go on with those vents. And using them gently they have worked just fine. If I remember correct these are new ones ' I also did broke them when trying them first time...and that is why I strenghten ed them some how ' maybe by using large area washers or so. RT do archive! From: Robert Borger Sent: Thursday=2C October 06=2C 2011 5:45 PM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ball Joints Raimo=2C On Oct 6=2C 2011=2C at 8:58 AM=2C Raimo Toivio wrote: One limitation: we call that plastic screw =93fucken Russian vertical spiral=94. The end stops are weak and will broken easily. That's why we dislike them. Cheep=2C crapy=2C miserable adjustments. They broke the first time I attempted to open/close them (thankfully=2C before they were installed). And they are not repairable. So they went into the dust bin and I bought outrageously expensive but completely functional ve nts (Ultimate Ventilators) from ACS. Bob Borger Rebuilding the instrument panel and working on a major weight reduction program for The Little Dragon Lady. She has to loose about 50 lbs (that's 3 Stone 8 for you guys in the UK). And the CG has to go back into the middle of the range. A new=2C light weight=2C low power=2C panel along with removal of the big alternator should take care of most of that. Cel 817-992-1117 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronic s.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/06/11 ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Europa-List s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Naca vents From: Trevor Pond That will be marvellous. Please email me: trevpond@aol.com with the Price including postage Regards Trev Sent from my iPhone On 7 Oct 2011, at 22:01, Karl Heindl wrote: > I can't find a number, it was a long time ago. I don't even see the Naca s coop in the current catlogue. > I happen to have a spare set I can let you have, if you are interested. > > Cheers , > > Karl > > > > From: Trevpond@aol.com > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:07:39 -0400 > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Naca vents > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > Somebody mentioned a repair kit for the vent screw for ACS - any idea of a part number? > > Cheers > > > > Trev Pond > G-LINN > > In a message dated 07/10/2011 14:35:53 GMT Daylight Time, pjeffers@talktal k.net writes: > Hi Max, > > Europa will probably be able to supply them but they get them from Aircraf t Spruce in California. > > > > Pete > > > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Max Cointe > Sent: 07 October 2011 09:01 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Naca vents > > > > Hi There all, > > > > As French we are used to play with clitoris, but I must admit that I broke one of the green Russian spiral. Has anybody one available? Do you think Eu ropa delivers it (I didn=99t ask yet)? > > Cheers > > > > Max Cointe > > F-PMLH Tri Gear #560 > > 912 ULS Airmaster 400 hours > > mcointe@free.fr > > > > De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv er@matronics.com] De la part de Raimo Toivio > Envoy=C3=A9 : jeudi 6 octobre 2011 20:13 > =C3 : europa-list@matronics.com > Objet : Re: Europa-List: Naca vents > > > > Bob and Pete > > > > They work fine if adjust them just with a bit tender! > > > > It is very easy if same time have a bit imagination that (The Knob) is a s weet clitoris. Do not broke it! > > > > Maybe that (ability to use those Naca vents with Russian vertical spiral) i s deep inside in a Finnish nature: we have lived thousands of years just wes t from Russia and our borderline is about 1000 miles long. > > > > Raimo OH-XRT Finland > > > > PS: if honest during the building phase I hated them. But there were so ma ny things I would have liked to do otherway or change. But I had not compete nce to do so. And did not want to use even more money. Hey I had a complete a ircraft kit they said! So I decided to go on with those vents. And using th em gently they have worked just fine. If I remember correct these are new on es =93 I also did broke them when trying them first time...and that is why I strenghtened them some how =93 maybe by using large area washer s or so. > > > > RT > > > > do archive! > > > > > > From: Robert Borger > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:45 PM > > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ball Joints > > > > Raimo, > > > > On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote: > > > > One limitation: we call that plastic screw =9Cfucken Russian vertica l spiral=9D. The end stops are weak and will broken easily. > > > > That's why we dislike them. Cheep, crapy, miserable adjustments. They br oke the first time I attempted to open/close them (thankfully, before they w ere installed). And they are not repairable. So they went into the dust bi n and I bought outrageously expensive but completely functional vents (Ultim ate Ventilators) from ACS. > > > > Bob Borger > > Rebuilding the instrument panel and working on a major weight reduction pr ogram for The Little Dragon Lady. She has to loose about 50 lbs (that's 3 S tone 8 for you guys in the UK). And the CG has to go back into the middle o f the range. A new, light weight, low power, panel along with removal of th e big alternator should take care of most of that. > > > > > > Cel 817-992-1117 > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronh ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 10/06/11 > > > > ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Europa-List > s.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > http://forums.matronics.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.