Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 10/15/11


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:01 AM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (G-IANI)
     2. 06:07 AM - Re: Berube Taildragger (zwakie)
     3. 08:09 AM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (Paul McAllister)
     4. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (G-IANI)
     5. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (G-IANI)
     6. 11:44 AM - Re: Berube Taildragger (flyingphil2)
     7. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (David Joyce)
     8. 12:24 PM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (David Joyce)
     9. 02:25 PM - Tail Wheel (Paul McAllister)
    10. 02:58 PM - Re: Tail Wheel (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
    11. 03:01 PM - Re: Re: Berube Taildragger (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
    12. 05:25 PM - Re: Berube Taildragger (zwakie)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:01:18 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    Phil Below is the Swiss Mod information I have:- Kit Reg 3 G-BVOS 912 11 G-IGII NSI, (David Hunter conversion) 20 G-IVET 912 24 HB-YIA 53 G-BWEG 912 57 G-FLYT NSI 88 G-BVVP 912, (David Hunter conversion) 104 G-BWUP NSI, (David Hunter conversion) 112 G-BWON 912, (David Hunter conversion) Now PH-MZW 117 G-CHAV 912 (David Hunter conversion) Now reg as G-LIKE 125 G-RICS NSI (David Hunter conversion) 146 F-WBAS 175 G-BXII, 912 259 G-CCRJ No engine yet, in build 264 PH-BGV 268 G-BWON 912, (David Hunter conversion) now HB-YIB 371 G-LDVO, 912 586 LN-HTK The only other "conventionals" I know of are:- 147 G-NIGL (own design, not yet completed) 251 the Flyer airframe built with reversed Trigear leg (now being completed by Mike Davies, 2011)


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    Time: 06:07:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    From: "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl>
    Ian, I have a correction to your list: PH-MZW is my Europa, I bought her as G-BWON in 2008 as a Tri-gear. Years before I bought her, the G-BWON indeed had a swiss u/c, but no longer. Marcel -------- Marcel (Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355099#355099


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    Time: 08:09:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    Hi All, I saw a picture of the Swiss Taildragger and I must admit that it piqued my curiosity. I know that the Berube Taildragger conversion places the wheels in the same place and height as the mono. Is this the case with the Swiss Taildragger ? Paul On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 4:58 AM, G-IANI <g-iani@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Phil > > Below is the Swiss Mod information I have:- > > > Kit Reg > 3 G-BVOS 912 > 11 G-IGII NSI, (David Hunter conversion) > 20 G-IVET 912 > 24 HB-YIA > 53 G-BWEG 912 > 57 G-FLYT NSI > 88 G-BVVP 912, (David Hunter conversion) > 104 G-BWUP NSI, (David Hunter conversion) > 112 G-BWON 912, (David Hunter conversion) Now PH-MZW > 117 G-CHAV 912 (David Hunter conversion) Now reg as G-LIKE > 125 G-RICS NSI (David Hunter conversion) > 146 F-WBAS > 175 G-BXII, 912 > 259 G-CCRJ No engine yet, in build > 264 PH-BGV > 268 G-BWON 912, (David Hunter conversion) now HB-YIB > 371 G-LDVO, 912 > 586 LN-HTK > > The only other "conventionals" I know of are:- > > 147 G-NIGL (own design, not yet completed) > 251 the Flyer airframe built with reversed Trigear leg > (now being completed by Mike Davies, 2011) > >


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    Time: 10:04:58 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    Marcel Thank you for that information. I have a picture of G-BWON as a "conventional" dated 2003. So I assume she was crashed and rebuilt as a Trigear about 2004 -5 Ian


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    Time: 10:19:02 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    Paul Simple answer. Yes, This works well and is the easiest way to keep the keep the "Authorities" happy. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com


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    Time: 11:44:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    From: "flyingphil2" <ptiller@lolacars.com>
    I'm curious as to why G-BWON was converted from the Swiss taildragger to a tri-gear. I just checked the AAIB site and the only prang it had was an undercarriage retract when landing (as a mono). It must be the only Europa to have ever had 2 undecarriage changes? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355134#355134


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    Time: 12:17:58 PM PST US
    From: David Joyce <stranfaer@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    It didn't ! AFAIK Sent from the iPad of David Joyce www.eastmidsspas.com On 15 Oct 2011, at 19:40, "flyingphil2" <ptiller@lolacars.com> wrote: > > I'm curious as to why G-BWON was converted from the Swiss taildragger to a tri-gear. I just checked the AAIB site and the only prang it had was an undercarriage retract when landing (as a mono). It must be the only Europa to have ever had 2 undecarriage changes? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355134#355134 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:24:17 PM PST US
    From: David Joyce <stranfaer@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    Marcel was it 2008? Time flys like a Tri Gear with the wind up it's tail! Rgds Djj Sent from the iPad of David Joyce www.eastmidsspas.com On 15 Oct 2011, at 14:03, "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl> wrote: > > Ian, > > I have a correction to your list: PH-MZW is my Europa, I bought her as G-BWON in 2008 as a Tri-gear. Years before I bought her, the G-BWON indeed had a swiss u/c, but no longer. > > Marcel > > -------- > Marcel > (Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355099#355099 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:25:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Tail Wheel
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    Hi All, I am about to order a new tail wheel but before I do I just wanted to check in to see if anyone had a tail wheel left over from a Tri conversion that I might be able to purchase. Cheers, Paul


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    Time: 02:58:02 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Tail Wheel
    Pauul=0AI think I might have one, certainly have a spring leg. Will check t omorrow AM=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Pau l McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 22:22:52=0ASubject: Europa-List: Tail W heel=0A=0AHi All,=0A=0AI am about to order a new tail wheel but before I do I just wanted to check in =0Ato see if anyone had a tail wheel left over f rom a Tri conversion that I might =0Abe able to purchase.=0A=0ACheers, Pau =============== =0A


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    Time: 03:01:12 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    More or less. Ground loop at Tatenhill by the last but one UK owner. He =0A converted it to tri gear and I signed it off=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A__________ ______________________=0AFrom: G-IANI <g-iani@ntlworld.com>=0ATo: europa-li st@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 18:01:17=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Berube Taildragger=0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted by : "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>=0A=0AMarcel=0A=0AThank you for that inform ation. I have a picture of G-BWON as a=0A"conventional" dated 2003. So I assume she was crashed and rebuilt as a=0ATrigear about 2004 -5=0A=0AIan=0A ===================


    Message 12


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    Time: 05:25:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Berube Taildragger
    From: "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl>
    stranfaer(at)btinternet.c wrote: > It didn't ! > > AFAIK > Well, actually it did and the logbook confirms. Change from mono to swiss in first months of 2000, then to Tri-gear in May 2005. -------- Marcel (Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=355159#355159




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