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1. 12:04 AM - Re: 912S Rough Running at High Revs (tennant)
2. 02:53 AM - Re: ballistic Parachute (Trevpond@aol.com)
3. 04:02 AM - Re: ballistic Parachute (PHILLIPS I)
4. 07:57 AM - Re: Naca vents (AirEupora)
5. 08:53 AM - Re: ballistic Parachute (G-IANI)
6. 09:59 AM - Re: The Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa GatheringThe Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa Gathering (Stephan Cassel)
7. 09:59 AM - Re: Tail Wheel (Charlie Laverty)
8. 10:59 AM - Re: ballistic Parachute (Gary Leinberger)
9. 12:00 PM - SV: The Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa GatheringThe Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa Gathering (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
10. 02:23 PM - Re: ballistic Parachute (Frans Veldman)
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| Subject: | Re: 912S Rough Running at High Revs |
Bryan,
Check your fuel system for air ingress.
I had similar symptoms many years ago. Impossible to find, until I fitted a clear
plastic pipe to one of the carb feed tubes. I found that although there was
no obvious leak lots of air was getting into the fual supply, enough that the
engine ran weak at high load. New hoses and decent clips solved it.
Barry Tennant
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Barry Tennant
D-EHBT
At EDLM - Germany
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| Subject: | Re: ballistic Parachute |
Hi Ivor,
I believe one of the Flying magazines were building a Europa with a
Ballistic Parachute Recovery System. I wonder if the one you saw was it.
best regards
Trev
G-LINN
In a message dated 16/10/2011 21:17:13 GMT Daylight Time,
ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com writes:
I came across a tri gear at Lelystad Holland fitted with a Ballistic
parachute, thought it may be of
interest so a couple of picture's attached,
regards
Ivor
G-IVER
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| Subject: | Re: ballistic Parachute |
Hi Trev
No that was the Flyer magazine and that aircraft is still being built
without the parachute at this time.
regards
ivor
On 17 October 2011 10:50, <Trevpond@aol.com> wrote:
> **
> Hi Ivor,
>
> I believe one of the Flying magazines were building a Europa with a
> Ballistic Parachute Recovery System. I wonder if the one you saw was it.
>
> best regards
>
>
> Trev
> G-LINN
>
> In a message dated 16/10/2011 21:17:13 GMT Daylight Time,
> ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com writes:
>
> I came across a tri gear at Lelystad Holland fitted with a Ballistic
> parachute, thought it may be of
>
> interest so a couple of picture's attached,
>
>
> regards
>
>
> Ivor
>
> G-IVER
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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I tried repairing these NACA vents and the repair has broken. I liked one of the
ideals for fixing them from Remi, but the time and effort would have been to
much. I'm lazy and want to go flying. I looked at what Roddy did and I liked
his ideal, but my knob was to far gone.
I drilled out the knob and took a 10-32 bolt (AN4-6) and using resin and fibers
glued the bolt into the knob. I then riveted a nutplate onto an AN-960 washer.
I had to grind the edges off to fit in the hole inside of the NACA vent.
That was glued too. I also ground down the nutplate to about half its normal
length. I left a shoulder on the movable part of the vent where the bolt makes
contact so that it would not blown out once I opened it in the air.
The one question I have? Is there enough air pressure on the movable vent to force
it open?
.
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| Subject: | ballistic Parachute |
Trev
The Flyer Europa with ballistic parachute was never completed and the unit
was removed from the fuselage. That aircraft has a new owner and work is
in progress to complete it.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: The Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa GatheringThe Aero |
2012 Friedrichshafen Europa Gathering
Dear Ian,
That would be fantastic if you and G-CBHI will participate. Please make
that happened
So far there are about 10 Europas and 14 persons that have announced
there interest.
And many more to come.
Looking forward to see you at Biberach/Friedrichshafen.
Other readers: please follow the link http://aero2012.scassel.se/
and send a registration mail. The registration is not binding. It is
just a registration of your intention.
Best regards
Stephan
LN-STE
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Hi Graham
I still have both an original tailwheel & one with the
spring leg, as Paul is prepared to offer help with my fuel gauge I would
be happy to let him whatever he needs foc if we can arrange delivery.
Regards
Charlie
From: GRAHAM SINGLETON
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tail Wheel
Pauul
I think I might have one, certainly have a spring leg. Will check
tomorrow AM
Graham
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From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, 15 October, 2011 22:22:52
Subject: Europa-List: Tail Wheel
Hi All,
I am about to order a new tail wheel but before I do I just wanted to
check in to see if anyone had a tail wheel left over from a Tri
conversion that I might be able to purchase.
Cheers, Paul
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| Subject: | ballistic Parachute |
I looked very carefully at putting a ballistic chute on my Europa - the rea
l problem is that you would have to totally re-engineer the plane - the for
ces involved in slowing the plane from 150 mph to essentially zero are amaz
ing. The other problem is that you basically destroy the plane because you
need to put the harness at the proper angle, with enough room for "swing" a
nd deployment. Putting it outside (like on the picture) affects aerodynamic
s, and could lead to problems of weathering of these harnesses over time. O
n the Cirrus, the plane is destroyed if the chute is deployed - the entire
top is ripped apart and apparently the rest of the plane is so distorted by
the shock of opening the chute that you are better off ordering a new plan
e. I guess you could make it strong enough to be reusable, but then, of co
urse, it won't fly which would also increase your safety. :)
These chutes are not benign devices - on my KitFox Lite I have a ballistic
chute - it is deployed by firing off what is essentially a mortar shell to
get the chute properly deployed - which means you have an explosion right n
ext to the plastic fuel tank right behind me. I think before deploying it,
I would have to be in a very tense situation - if it was just an engine out
I would probably take my chances landing (I have empirically tested this -
it was unplanned but worked out) rather than fire off a mortar shell next
to a gas tank.
While these chutes have saved lives, they really only work in very specific
situations - for example, a in-flight wing failure - if you remember to st
op the prop, and can get the chute deployed without tangling in the wreckag
e or the prop.
A chute does you no good on the two major accident situations (maybe 90% of
accidents?) - landing and take-off - in neither case do you have sufficien
t time for the chute to deploy - even if you are very quick to analyze the
problem.
The real insurance is to build it right, don't fly it beyond its performanc
e envelope, and stay out of bad weather.
Gary Leinberger
A237
Waiting for Paint
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G-IANI
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: ballistic Parachute
Trev
The Flyer Europa with ballistic parachute was never completed and the unit
was removed from the fuselage. That aircraft has a new owner and work is
in progress to complete it.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | The Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa GatheringThe Aero |
2012 Friedrichshafen Europa Gathering
Hei Stephan,
Utrolig bra oppslutning!!
Ser at Hans J=F8rgens fly/nye eier vil delta ' blir det med Hans
J=F8rgen som
co-pilot?
Mvh
Svein
Fra: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] P=E5 vegne av Stephan
Cassel
Sendt: 17. oktober 2011 18:55
Til: europa-list@matronics.com
Emne: Re: Europa-List: The Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa GatheringThe
Aero 2012 Friedrichshafen Europa Gathering
Dear Ian,
That would be fantastic if you and G-CBHI will participate. Please make
that
happened Smile
So far there are about 10 Europas and 14 persons that have announced
there
interest.
And many more to come.
Looking forward to see you at Biberach/Friedrichshafen.
Other readers: please follow the link http://aero2012.scassel.se/
and send a registration mail. The registration is not binding. It is
just a
registration of your intention.
Best regards
Stephan
LN-STE
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| Subject: | Re: ballistic Parachute |
On 10/17/2011 07:55 PM, Gary Leinberger wrote:
> I looked very carefully at putting a ballistic chute on my Europa
I went through the same mental exercise, with the same outcome. Apart
from affecting the plane in a negative way (you forgot to mention the
weight disadvantage; it eats up all bagage weight), I couldn't really
imagine many realistic situations in which I would (be able to) deploy
the chute. Given the fact that it destroys the aircraft (if it is not
during deployment then it is during the uncontrolled touch down
somewhere on a rock, tree or building) I would not be so enthousiastic
to pull the pin out of the mortar if it would "just" be an engine
failure, or "just" an IMC encounter, or anything else where there would
still be any hope to come out unscathed.
I would deploy it during an engine failure over sea, or maybe during an
engine failure in the mountains without any suitable landing spot. I
doubt it could be deployed after a structural failure in flight (I
imagine the roll rate of the plane would be instantly enormous if some
piece of wing would depart the airplane) or during an in flight
collision (given the cruise speed of the Europa it is doubtful if anyone
would be able to press a button after the event, providing there is some
structural integrity left after the collision to either reach the chute
and to carry the wreckage after deployment.)
Most of the arguments apply equally well to personal chutes.
Frans
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