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1. 06:02 AM - Nose Wheel! (robertpeterfrost)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: Nose Wheel! (Bob Harrison)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Nose Wheel! (Peter Jeffers)
4. 07:20 AM - FINALLY-First flight N283JL (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
5. 08:49 AM - Re: FINALLY-First flight N283JL (Jeff B)
6. 12:00 PM - Fw: FINALLY-First flight N283JL (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
7. 01:08 PM - Heated Pitot on Fin (Tony Renshaw)
8. 03:14 PM - Re: Fw: FINALLY-First flight N283JL (Jeffrey Roberts)
9. 04:18 PM - Re: Heated Pitot on Fin (Tim Ward)
10. 04:26 PM - N283JL First flight (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
11. 04:49 PM - Re: Heated Pitot on Fin (Paul McAllister)
12. 04:57 PM - Re: N283JL First flight (Tim Ward)
13. 06:01 PM - Re: N283JL First flight (Robert Borger)
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On landing at Sherburn on the hard runway when we slowed to around 35 knots the
nose wheel started to bounce up and down rapidly. My buddy Roger was P1 and he
held the stick hard back but it continued "bounce" until we slowed to 20 knots.
In 100 hours and hundreds of landings this has never occurred.
I have the nose wheel spring mod fitted, not the bungee, any ideas, could it be
the shimmy damper needs checking?
Robert Frost
G-RPAF
Tri-Gear XS. 605
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Robert
Definitely a shimmy problem but you need to inspect the whole thing based
on my previous experiences! Then ensure the setting is done to the book.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
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robertpeterfrost
Sent: 02 November 2011 12:59
Subject: Europa-List: Nose Wheel!
<r.frost@rslnorthern.co.uk>
On landing at Sherburn on the hard runway when we slowed to around 35 knots
the nose wheel started to bounce up and down rapidly. My buddy Roger was P1
and he held the stick hard back but it continued "bounce" until we slowed to
20 knots. In 100 hours and hundreds of landings this has never occurred.
I have the nose wheel spring mod fitted, not the bungee, any ideas, could it
be the shimmy damper needs checking?
Robert Frost
G-RPAF
Tri-Gear XS. 605
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Hi Robert,
Your description nearly fulfils nose wheel shimmy. It is also far and away
the most likely cause. One other obvious possibility, although you would
probably have noticed this, is a flat tyre!
So check N/W tyre pressure and then check shimmy damper adjustment. Please
refer to the manual to do this check using a spring balance. As a quick
check, with the nose wheel off the ground check that there is a fair amount
of resistance to turning the nose wheel fork left and right. There should
be a fair bit of resistance. If not then adjustment is necessary.
Nose wheel shimmy is primarily a problem on hard dry runways. It happens
far less on grass.
If shimmy is the problem get it fixed quickly, much damage can be caused to
the rest of the airframe if you let it persist.
Pete Jeffers
Europa Club LAA Rep
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
robertpeterfrost
Sent: 02 November 2011 12:59
Subject: Europa-List: Nose Wheel!
<r.frost@rslnorthern.co.uk>
On landing at Sherburn on the hard runway when we slowed to around 35 knots
the nose wheel started to bounce up and down rapidly. My buddy Roger was P1
and he held the stick hard back but it continued "bounce" until we slowed to
20 knots. In 100 hours and hundreds of landings this has never occurred.
I have the nose wheel spring mod fitted, not the bungee, any ideas, could it
be the shimmy damper needs checking?
Robert Frost
G-RPAF
Tri-Gear XS. 605
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| Subject: | FINALLY-First flight N283JL |
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| Subject: | Re: FINALLY-First flight N283JL |
Jim, I get a blank page... But, congratulations, anyway... :)
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 11/2/2011 9:16 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
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| Subject: | Fwd: FINALLY-First flight N283JL |
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| Subject: | Heated Pitot on Fin |
Gidday,
I am fantasizing about the possibility of preserving reliable pitot static for
my aircraft, in cloud. Not much point being in cloud and having things freeze
up on you, so the complexities of having a hot pitot close to the underside of
a classic solid wing is making me wonder about the early setup, way back when.
I figure if I mount a fin pitot, of an appropriate length I may not have the
disconnection and reconnection issues, and might better suit single handed rigging.
So, if I had a heated pitot on an appropriate boom I seem to recall at
high body attitudes it used to get disturbed airflow from the fuse. So, is there
another way I haven't considered? Thanks in anticipation, and I suppose it
begs the question, can I not simply fly GPS groundspeed in conjunction with an
approximate wind, and AoA? If I use my Dynon D180 it has an AoA indicator, but
I think it's airspeed derived. My GPS has GPS altitude, and I reckon it wld
get me out of trouble. I am not suggesting prolonged IFR but..........you know.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: FINALLY-First flight N283JL |
Jim,
A hardy congratulations from here in Tennessee!!!!! How about some pictures?
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:55 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Heated Pitot on Fin |
Tony,
I wouldn't even contemplate it. You have enough experience to get out of the woods.
I only fly on beautiful days looking outside at the stunning views and for other
aircraft rather then in the flight deck, ( can't say 'cockpit' now) at the electronics.
I get enough of that at work! On saying that I do have 3 GPS, one
for my IPad that my son likes to play with, one in my old 295 Garmin and one in
the Aware to keep me aware of controlled Airspace! So I can't talk. At work
we only have 1 out of 5 Boeing 767's that has GPS. It's a funny world.
Great landing in Warsaw with the Lot 767 belly landing! Good to know it can be
done. So British Airways have done it with the 777, great piece of flying, so
only the 747 to go, Tony!
Cheers Tim
P.s Don't get locked out!
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 3/11/2011, at 3:20 AM, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Gidday,
> I am fantasizing about the possibility of preserving reliable pitot static for
my aircraft, in cloud. Not much point being in cloud and having things freeze
up on you, so the complexities of having a hot pitot close to the underside
of a classic solid wing is making me wonder about the early setup, way back when.
I figure if I mount a fin pitot, of an appropriate length I may not have the
disconnection and reconnection issues, and might better suit single handed
rigging. So, if I had a heated pitot on an appropriate boom I seem to recall at
high body attitudes it used to get disturbed airflow from the fuse. So, is there
another way I haven't considered? Thanks in anticipation, and I suppose it
begs the question, can I not simply fly GPS groundspeed in conjunction with
an approximate wind, and AoA? If I use my Dynon D180 it has an AoA indicator,
but I think it's airspeed derived. My GPS has GPS altitude, and I reckon it wld
get me out of trouble. I am not suggesting prolonged!
> IFR but..........you know.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
>
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | N283JL First flight |
My earlier posts must have failed because I had a photo attached. Sorry about that!
Pictures on Facebook.
After almost eight years of construction, N283JL finally flew yesterday. Peter
Jeffers was the test pilot and he reported that it handled just as it should,
was very stable and well behaved. The number are:
Empty Weight: 885 Lbs.
Engine: Jabiru 3300
Construction hours: 2,014 (to date)
Cruise: 118 Kts @ 2,850
Thanks need to go out to Bob and Russ at Flight Crafters, and Bud Yearly and John
Lawton for their help, as well as all the help we have received from the people
on this list. Peter has also been a lifesaver in helping finish the last
50% after I completed the first 95%. Without the help from him and Sue, we would
undoubtedly not have been able to finish it in the time frame we did.
There is a great deal of concern in cooling the Jabiru. CHTs and oil temps were
all within specifications for the first flight. EGSs are a little high, but other
indicators tell us it is running a little lean, which we can address.
The attached photo is Peter Jeffers and I just after the flight.
Jim Puglise
N283JL, Punta Gorda, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Heated Pitot on Fin |
Hi Tony,
I think your trying to solve a problem that doesn't need solving. Grab a
beer and go think about something else :)
Cheers, Paul
Do not archive
On Wednesday, November 2, 2011, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Gidday,
> I am fantasizing about the possibility of preserving reliable pitot
static for my aircraft, in cloud. Not much point being in cloud and having
things freeze up on you, so the complexities of having a hot pitot close to
the underside of a classic solid wing is making me wonder about the early
setup, way back when. I figure if I mount a fin pitot, of an appropriate
length I may not have the disconnection and reconnection issues, and might
better suit single handed rigging. So, if I had a heated pitot on an
appropriate boom I seem to recall at high body attitudes it used to get
disturbed airflow from the fuse. So, is there another way I haven't
considered? Thanks in anticipation, and I suppose it begs the question, can
I not simply fly GPS groundspeed in conjunction with an approximate wind,
and AoA? If I use my Dynon D180 it has an AoA indicator, but I think it's
airspeed derived. My GPS has GPS altitude, and I reckon it wld get me out
of trouble. I am not suggesting prolonged!
> IFR but..........you know.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
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| Subject: | Re: N283JL First flight |
Jim,
Congratulations from =9Cdown under'=9D. Well done. The fun
begins!!
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward,
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch 8052
New Zealand
Ph; 03 3515166
Mob; 0210640221
email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM
Subject: Europa-List: N283JL First flight
My earlier posts must have failed because I had a photo attached. Sorry
about that! Pictures on Facebook.
After almost eight years of construction, N283JL finally flew yesterday.
Peter Jeffers was the test pilot and he reported that it handled just
as it should, was very stable and well behaved. The number are:
Empty Weight: 885 Lbs.
Engine: Jabiru 3300
Construction hours: 2,014 (to date)
Cruise: 118 Kts @ 2,850
Thanks need to go out to Bob and Russ at Flight Crafters, and Bud Yearly
and John Lawton for their help, as well as all the help we have received
from the people on this list. Peter has also been a lifesaver in
helping finish the last 50% after I completed the first 95%. Without
the help from him and Sue, we would undoubtedly not have been able to
finish it in the time frame we did.
There is a great deal of concern in cooling the Jabiru. CHTs and oil
temps were all within specifications for the first flight. EGSs are a
little high, but other indicators tell us it is running a little lean,
which we can address.
The attached photo is Peter Jeffers and I just after the flight.
Jim Puglise
N283JL, Punta Gorda, FL
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| Subject: | Re: N283JL First flight |
Jim,
Well CONGRATULATIONS anyway! Sounds like you did very well.
Tried to find you on Facebook, but no luck.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914
rlborger@mac.com
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Nov 2, 2011, at 6:23 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
> My earlier posts must have failed because I had a photo attached. Sorry about
that! Pictures on Facebook.
>
> After almost eight years of construction, N283JL finally flew yesterday. Peter
Jeffers was the test pilot and he reported that it handled just as it should,
was very stable and well behaved. The number are:
>
> Empty Weight: 885 Lbs.
> Engine: Jabiru 3300
> Construction hours: 2,014 (to date)
> Cruise: 118 Kts @ 2,850
>
> Thanks need to go out to Bob and Russ at Flight Crafters, and Bud Yearly and
John Lawton for their help, as well as all the help we have received from the
people on this list. Peter has also been a lifesaver in helping finish the last
50% after I completed the first 95%. Without the help from him and Sue, we
would undoubtedly not have been able to finish it in the time frame we did.
>
> There is a great deal of concern in cooling the Jabiru. CHTs and oil temps were
all within specifications for the first flight. EGSs are a little high, but
other indicators tell us it is running a little lean, which we can address.
>
> The attached photo is Peter Jeffers and I just after the flight.
>
> Jim Puglise
> N283JL, Punta Gorda, FL
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