---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/02/11: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:02 AM - Nose Wheel! (robertpeterfrost) 2. 06:32 AM - Re: Nose Wheel! (Bob Harrison) 3. 06:36 AM - Re: Nose Wheel! (Peter Jeffers) 4. 07:20 AM - FINALLY-First flight N283JL (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 5. 08:49 AM - Re: FINALLY-First flight N283JL (Jeff B) 6. 12:00 PM - Fw: FINALLY-First flight N283JL (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 7. 01:08 PM - Heated Pitot on Fin (Tony Renshaw) 8. 03:14 PM - Re: Fw: FINALLY-First flight N283JL (Jeffrey Roberts) 9. 04:18 PM - Re: Heated Pitot on Fin (Tim Ward) 10. 04:26 PM - N283JL First flight (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 11. 04:49 PM - Re: Heated Pitot on Fin (Paul McAllister) 12. 04:57 PM - Re: N283JL First flight (Tim Ward) 13. 06:01 PM - Re: N283JL First flight (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Nose Wheel! From: "robertpeterfrost" On landing at Sherburn on the hard runway when we slowed to around 35 knots the nose wheel started to bounce up and down rapidly. My buddy Roger was P1 and he held the stick hard back but it continued "bounce" until we slowed to 20 knots. In 100 hours and hundreds of landings this has never occurred. I have the nose wheel spring mod fitted, not the bungee, any ideas, could it be the shimmy damper needs checking? Robert Frost G-RPAF Tri-Gear XS. 605 -------- Robert Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356625#356625 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:43 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose Wheel! Robert Definitely a shimmy problem but you need to inspect the whole thing based on my previous experiences! Then ensure the setting is done to the book. Regards Bob H G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robertpeterfrost Sent: 02 November 2011 12:59 Subject: Europa-List: Nose Wheel! On landing at Sherburn on the hard runway when we slowed to around 35 knots the nose wheel started to bounce up and down rapidly. My buddy Roger was P1 and he held the stick hard back but it continued "bounce" until we slowed to 20 knots. In 100 hours and hundreds of landings this has never occurred. I have the nose wheel spring mod fitted, not the bungee, any ideas, could it be the shimmy damper needs checking? Robert Frost G-RPAF Tri-Gear XS. 605 -------- Robert Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356625#356625 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:54 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose Wheel! Hi Robert, Your description nearly fulfils nose wheel shimmy. It is also far and away the most likely cause. One other obvious possibility, although you would probably have noticed this, is a flat tyre! So check N/W tyre pressure and then check shimmy damper adjustment. Please refer to the manual to do this check using a spring balance. As a quick check, with the nose wheel off the ground check that there is a fair amount of resistance to turning the nose wheel fork left and right. There should be a fair bit of resistance. If not then adjustment is necessary. Nose wheel shimmy is primarily a problem on hard dry runways. It happens far less on grass. If shimmy is the problem get it fixed quickly, much damage can be caused to the rest of the airframe if you let it persist. Pete Jeffers Europa Club LAA Rep -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of robertpeterfrost Sent: 02 November 2011 12:59 Subject: Europa-List: Nose Wheel! On landing at Sherburn on the hard runway when we slowed to around 35 knots the nose wheel started to bounce up and down rapidly. My buddy Roger was P1 and he held the stick hard back but it continued "bounce" until we slowed to 20 knots. In 100 hours and hundreds of landings this has never occurred. I have the nose wheel spring mod fitted, not the bungee, any ideas, could it be the shimmy damper needs checking? Robert Frost G-RPAF Tri-Gear XS. 605 -------- Robert Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=356625#356625 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:33 AM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: FINALLY-First flight N283JL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:41 AM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: FINALLY-First flight N283JL Jim, I get a blank page... But, congratulations, anyway... :) Jeff - Baby Blue On 11/2/2011 9:16 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:05 PM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: FINALLY-First flight N283JL ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:08:09 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Heated Pitot on Fin From: Tony Renshaw Gidday, I am fantasizing about the possibility of preserving reliable pitot static for my aircraft, in cloud. Not much point being in cloud and having things freeze up on you, so the complexities of having a hot pitot close to the underside of a classic solid wing is making me wonder about the early setup, way back when. I figure if I mount a fin pitot, of an appropriate length I may not have the disconnection and reconnection issues, and might better suit single handed rigging. So, if I had a heated pitot on an appropriate boom I seem to recall at high body attitudes it used to get disturbed airflow from the fuse. So, is there another way I haven't considered? Thanks in anticipation, and I suppose it begs the question, can I not simply fly GPS groundspeed in conjunction with an approximate wind, and AoA? If I use my Dynon D180 it has an AoA indicator, but I think it's airspeed derived. My GPS has GPS altitude, and I reckon it wld get me out of trouble. I am not suggesting prolonged IFR but..........you know. Reg Tony Renshaw Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fwd: FINALLY-First flight N283JL From: Jeffrey Roberts Jim, A hardy congratulations from here in Tennessee!!!!! How about some pictures? Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush On Nov 2, 2011, at 1:55 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:28 PM PST US From: Tim Ward Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heated Pitot on Fin Tony, I wouldn't even contemplate it. You have enough experience to get out of the woods. I only fly on beautiful days looking outside at the stunning views and for other aircraft rather then in the flight deck, ( can't say 'cockpit' now) at the electronics. I get enough of that at work! On saying that I do have 3 GPS, one for my IPad that my son likes to play with, one in my old 295 Garmin and one in the Aware to keep me aware of controlled Airspace! So I can't talk. At work we only have 1 out of 5 Boeing 767's that has GPS. It's a funny world. Great landing in Warsaw with the Lot 767 belly landing! Good to know it can be done. So British Airways have done it with the 777, great piece of flying, so only the 747 to go, Tony! Cheers Tim P.s Don't get locked out! Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 On 3/11/2011, at 3:20 AM, Tony Renshaw wrote: > > Gidday, > I am fantasizing about the possibility of preserving reliable pitot static for my aircraft, in cloud. Not much point being in cloud and having things freeze up on you, so the complexities of having a hot pitot close to the underside of a classic solid wing is making me wonder about the early setup, way back when. I figure if I mount a fin pitot, of an appropriate length I may not have the disconnection and reconnection issues, and might better suit single handed rigging. So, if I had a heated pitot on an appropriate boom I seem to recall at high body attitudes it used to get disturbed airflow from the fuse. So, is there another way I haven't considered? Thanks in anticipation, and I suppose it begs the question, can I not simply fly GPS groundspeed in conjunction with an approximate wind, and AoA? If I use my Dynon D180 it has an AoA indicator, but I think it's airspeed derived. My GPS has GPS altitude, and I reckon it wld get me out of trouble. I am not suggesting prolonged! > IFR but..........you know. > Reg > Tony Renshaw > > Sent from my iPad > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:07 PM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: N283JL First flight My earlier posts must have failed because I had a photo attached. Sorry about that! Pictures on Facebook. After almost eight years of construction, N283JL finally flew yesterday. Peter Jeffers was the test pilot and he reported that it handled just as it should, was very stable and well behaved. The number are: Empty Weight: 885 Lbs. Engine: Jabiru 3300 Construction hours: 2,014 (to date) Cruise: 118 Kts @ 2,850 Thanks need to go out to Bob and Russ at Flight Crafters, and Bud Yearly and John Lawton for their help, as well as all the help we have received from the people on this list. Peter has also been a lifesaver in helping finish the last 50% after I completed the first 95%. Without the help from him and Sue, we would undoubtedly not have been able to finish it in the time frame we did. There is a great deal of concern in cooling the Jabiru. CHTs and oil temps were all within specifications for the first flight. EGSs are a little high, but other indicators tell us it is running a little lean, which we can address. The attached photo is Peter Jeffers and I just after the flight. Jim Puglise N283JL, Punta Gorda, FL ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heated Pitot on Fin From: Paul McAllister Hi Tony, I think your trying to solve a problem that doesn't need solving. Grab a beer and go think about something else :) Cheers, Paul Do not archive On Wednesday, November 2, 2011, Tony Renshaw wrote: > > Gidday, > I am fantasizing about the possibility of preserving reliable pitot static for my aircraft, in cloud. Not much point being in cloud and having things freeze up on you, so the complexities of having a hot pitot close to the underside of a classic solid wing is making me wonder about the early setup, way back when. I figure if I mount a fin pitot, of an appropriate length I may not have the disconnection and reconnection issues, and might better suit single handed rigging. So, if I had a heated pitot on an appropriate boom I seem to recall at high body attitudes it used to get disturbed airflow from the fuse. So, is there another way I haven't considered? Thanks in anticipation, and I suppose it begs the question, can I not simply fly GPS groundspeed in conjunction with an approximate wind, and AoA? If I use my Dynon D180 it has an AoA indicator, but I think it's airspeed derived. My GPS has GPS altitude, and I reckon it wld get me out of trouble. I am not suggesting prolonged! > IFR but..........you know. > Reg > Tony Renshaw ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:11 PM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Re: Europa-List: N283JL First flight Jim, Congratulations from =9Cdown under'=9D. Well done. The fun begins!! Cheers, Tim Tim Ward, 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch 8052 New Zealand Ph; 03 3515166 Mob; 0210640221 email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:23 PM Subject: Europa-List: N283JL First flight My earlier posts must have failed because I had a photo attached. Sorry about that! Pictures on Facebook. After almost eight years of construction, N283JL finally flew yesterday. Peter Jeffers was the test pilot and he reported that it handled just as it should, was very stable and well behaved. The number are: Empty Weight: 885 Lbs. Engine: Jabiru 3300 Construction hours: 2,014 (to date) Cruise: 118 Kts @ 2,850 Thanks need to go out to Bob and Russ at Flight Crafters, and Bud Yearly and John Lawton for their help, as well as all the help we have received from the people on this list. Peter has also been a lifesaver in helping finish the last 50% after I completed the first 95%. Without the help from him and Sue, we would undoubtedly not have been able to finish it in the time frame we did. There is a great deal of concern in cooling the Jabiru. CHTs and oil temps were all within specifications for the first flight. EGSs are a little high, but other indicators tell us it is running a little lean, which we can address. The attached photo is Peter Jeffers and I just after the flight. Jim Puglise N283JL, Punta Gorda, FL ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:31 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: N283JL First flight Jim, Well CONGRATULATIONS anyway! Sounds like you did very well. Tried to find you on Facebook, but no luck. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914 rlborger@mac.com Cel: 817-992-1117 On Nov 2, 2011, at 6:23 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > My earlier posts must have failed because I had a photo attached. Sorry about that! Pictures on Facebook. > > After almost eight years of construction, N283JL finally flew yesterday. Peter Jeffers was the test pilot and he reported that it handled just as it should, was very stable and well behaved. The number are: > > Empty Weight: 885 Lbs. > Engine: Jabiru 3300 > Construction hours: 2,014 (to date) > Cruise: 118 Kts @ 2,850 > > Thanks need to go out to Bob and Russ at Flight Crafters, and Bud Yearly and John Lawton for their help, as well as all the help we have received from the people on this list. Peter has also been a lifesaver in helping finish the last 50% after I completed the first 95%. Without the help from him and Sue, we would undoubtedly not have been able to finish it in the time frame we did. > > There is a great deal of concern in cooling the Jabiru. CHTs and oil temps were all within specifications for the first flight. EGSs are a little high, but other indicators tell us it is running a little lean, which we can address. > > The attached photo is Peter Jeffers and I just after the flight. > > Jim Puglise > N283JL, Punta Gorda, FL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.