---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/06/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:12 AM - Mylar Gap Seal (Martin Olliver) 2. 03:54 AM - Re: Mylar Gap Seal (graeme bird) 3. 04:17 AM - Re: vents in perspex (graeme bird) 4. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: vents in perspex (Peter Jeffers) 5. 08:58 AM - Re: Mylar Gap Seal (Fred Klein) 6. 12:30 PM - Low Voltage (Troy Maynor) 7. 12:32 PM - Re: N283JL First flight (Troy Maynor) 8. 01:32 PM - Re: Low Voltage (PHILLIPS I) 9. 01:42 PM - Re: Low Voltage (Jeff B) 10. 06:59 PM - Re: Low Voltage (Jeffrey Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Mylar Gap Seal From: "Martin Olliver" Has any one tried using Mylar gap seal on the wing gaps i.e. Flaps, aileron, elevator and perhaps rudder (Z seal on one side in this area) If you have, did you get any improvement in speed as a result? The glider chaps have been using this stuff for years so there could be some advantage in fitting it to a Europa. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357058#357058 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:13 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mylar Gap Seal From: "graeme bird" I just read Manuel Queiroz's Chasing the Morning Sun book about flying round the world in a RV6 (good read by the way) and he used them. Two came off over the Pacific in the dark making a very strange and worrying noise. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357059#357059 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: vents in perspex From: "graeme bird" Thanks, I found the web site and also AFE on line seem to do them but no one has a price, has anyone fitted them? I think I would just tape round the hole and route them with a 1/4 bit although that may make too much heat - maybe a hand hole saw. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357060#357060 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:44 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: vents in perspex Hi Graham, I have fitted glider type sliding windows to my a/c. The ones I fitted were made by a Swiss company called Mecaplex. When I got them 7 or 8 years ago they cost something like 150 each. If these are the ones you are going to fit then I have an accurate template to go with a router fitted with a NEW 1/4" router bit. If you wish I can lend this to you but you will have to wait till I get back from the States at the end of the month. The cutting rate is quite fast and I had NO problem with heat. Ensure the canopy temperature is in the region of 60 to 70f. ie not too cold, before cutting. Practice on at least one off cut before attacking the real thing. Pete Jeffers Europa Club LAA Rep -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 06 November 2011 12:14 Subject: Europa-List: Re: vents in perspex Thanks, I found the web site and also AFE on line seem to do them but no one has a price, has anyone fitted them? I think I would just tape round the hole and route them with a 1/4 bit although that may make too much heat - maybe a hand hole saw. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357060#357060 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:27 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mylar Gap Seal Martin...John Lawton would be the go-to guy...his email is: wingdingy@gmail.com On Nov 6, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Martin Olliver wrote: > > > > Has any one tried using Mylar gap seal on the wing gaps i.e. Flaps, > aileron, elevator and perhaps rudder (Z seal on one side in this area) > If you have, did you get any improvement in speed as a result? > The glider chaps have been using this stuff for years so there could > be some advantage in fitting it to a Europa. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357058#357058 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Low Voltage From: "Troy Maynor" Hi All, Recently I had been getting low voltage readings in my Europa. It has the 912S with a total of 125 hours on it. I have an Odessey 680, 17ah battery, 2 years old. It is basically wired as per the Europa supplied diagram. I keep a Battery Tender Plus hooked up all the time. I do not get a alternator light come on, except when I shut down. The voltage reading on climb out yesterday on departure from home read 13.7 at one point. After a 1.5 hour flight to Kentucky the voltage was probably around 12v. On start up to taxi from the fuel pit to the restaurant it hit on the first blade and started quickly 1.5 hours later when we left for home. Voltage slowly dropped on the way home when finally the EIS showed 10.9 volts on landing. I forgot to try to restart at that time. I had turned off none essential stuff along the way. Pulled the breakers for the Art.Horizon, Turn Coord., turned off XPDR, then finally the radio except when we got close to home and the nearby class c. I am thinking its only the battery What do you all think? I have looked at all the posts I could search on here, and Aeroelectric,(very cumbersome search engine). None conclusive. I am wondering if it could be the regulator. The manuals aren't any help either. Troy Maynor Europa Monowheel Classic UK120 125 hours to date Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357088#357088 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:34 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: N283JL First flight From: "Troy Maynor" Hi Jim and Lynne, Just want to congratulate you on reaching this monumental point. Take a deep breath now and relax. No more sanding!! Just fly fly fly now. Can't wait to see your new bird at SnFun. Happy flying. Troy and Donna Maynor Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357089#357089 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Low Voltage From: PHILLIPS I Hi Troy its a fair bet its your regulator, The ducatti regulator has a poor record of reliability especially if it isn't sufficiently heatsink/cooled, I replaced mine with the German schicke GR6 a much better quality unit, Its very unlikely to be the battery, check both yellow wires from the generator to make sure they are not burnt or overheated at the regulator connections, best wishes Ivor G-IVER On 6 November 2011 20:26, Troy Maynor wrote: > > Hi All, > Recently I had been getting low voltage readings in my Europa. > It has the 912S with a total of 125 hours on it. > I have an Odessey 680, 17ah battery, 2 years old. > It is basically wired as per the Europa supplied diagram. > I keep a Battery Tender Plus hooked up all the time. > I do not get a alternator light come on, except when I shut down. > The voltage reading on climb out yesterday on departure from home read > 13.7 at one point. > After a 1.5 hour flight to Kentucky the voltage was probably around 12v. > On start up to taxi from the fuel pit to the restaurant it hit on the > first blade and started quickly 1.5 hours later when we left for home. > Voltage slowly dropped on the way home when finally the EIS showed 10.9 > volts on landing. I forgot to try to restart at that time. > I had turned off none essential stuff along the way. Pulled the breakers > for the Art.Horizon, Turn Coord., turned off XPDR, then finally the radio > except when we got close to home and the nearby class c. > I am thinking its only the battery What do you all think? > I have looked at all the posts I could search on here, and > Aeroelectric,(very cumbersome search engine). None conclusive. I am > wondering if it could be the regulator. The manuals aren't any help either. > Troy Maynor > Europa Monowheel Classic > UK120 > 125 hours to date > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357088#357088 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:40 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Low Voltage Troy, Have you checked the inline fuse? Jeff - Baby Blue On 11/6/2011 2:26 PM, Troy Maynor wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" > > Hi All, > Recently I had been getting low voltage readings in my Europa. > It has the 912S with a total of 125 hours on it. > I have an Odessey 680, 17ah battery, 2 years old. > It is basically wired as per the Europa supplied diagram. > I keep a Battery Tender Plus hooked up all the time. > I do not get a alternator light come on, except when I shut down. > The voltage reading on climb out yesterday on departure from home read 13.7 at one point. > After a 1.5 hour flight to Kentucky the voltage was probably around 12v. > On start up to taxi from the fuel pit to the restaurant it hit on the first blade and started quickly 1.5 hours later when we left for home. > Voltage slowly dropped on the way home when finally the EIS showed 10.9 volts on landing. I forgot to try to restart at that time. > I had turned off none essential stuff along the way. Pulled the breakers for the Art.Horizon, Turn Coord., turned off XPDR, then finally the radio except when we got close to home and the nearby class c. > I am thinking its only the battery What do you all think? > I have looked at all the posts I could search on here, and Aeroelectric,(very cumbersome search engine). None conclusive. I am wondering if it could be the regulator. The manuals aren't any help either. > Troy Maynor > Europa Monowheel Classic > UK120 > 125 hours to date > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357088#357088 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Low Voltage From: Jeffrey Roberts Troy, There are are many things but I had the same problem flying back from FL. last week. What I found was a bad ground or corroded ground going back thru the firewall. Fixed it today and she's charging again. It was as you described... no alternator light just a slow drop in voltage. Check your grounds everywhere. BTW: I have an extra regulator if you want to try it. Regards, Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Troy Maynor wrote: > > Hi All, > Recently I had been getting low voltage readings in my Europa. > It has the 912S with a total of 125 hours on it. > I have an Odessey 680, 17ah battery, 2 years old. > It is basically wired as per the Europa supplied diagram. > I keep a Battery Tender Plus hooked up all the time. > I do not get a alternator light come on, except when I shut down. > The voltage reading on climb out yesterday on departure from home read 13.7 at one point. > After a 1.5 hour flight to Kentucky the voltage was probably around 12v. > On start up to taxi from the fuel pit to the restaurant it hit on the first blade and started quickly 1.5 hours later when we left for home. > Voltage slowly dropped on the way home when finally the EIS showed 10.9 volts on landing. I forgot to try to restart at that time. > I had turned off none essential stuff along the way. Pulled the breakers for the Art.Horizon, Turn Coord., turned off XPDR, then finally the radio except when we got close to home and the nearby class c. > I am thinking its only the battery What do you all think? > I have looked at all the posts I could search on here, and Aeroelectric,(very cumbersome search engine). None conclusive. I am wondering if it could be the regulator. The manuals aren't any help either. > Troy Maynor > Europa Monowheel Classic > UK120 > 125 hours to date > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357088#357088 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.