---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/27/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:17 AM - Please Make A Contribution Today... (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:10 AM - Re: Leaky Brake Fitting - Some advice please! (Frans Veldman) 2. 08:43 AM - First Flight Video N283JL (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 3. 09:24 AM - Re: First Flight Video N283JL (Paul McAllister) 4. 09:37 AM - Re: First Flight Video N283JL (Robert Borger) 5. 09:50 AM - Re: First Flight Video N283JL (Fred Klein) 6. 11:01 AM - Aluminium Pipe for Fuel Inlet (Tim Ward) 7. 11:48 AM - Re: First Flight Video N283JL (craig) 8. 02:17 PM - Re: First Flight Video N283JL (Jeffrey Roberts) 9. 06:09 PM - Re: Fw: question from Rough River (Troy Maynor) 10. 06:18 PM - Re: Diameter of 912 oil hose and oil hose type (Neville Eyre) 11. 07:28 PM - Re: Diameter of 912 oil hose and oil hose type (Christoph Both) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:17 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Please Make A Contribution Today... Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:33 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Leaky Brake Fitting - Some advice please! Hi Carl, > I had a problem today where the parking brake got stuck on. Normally to > release it, I put a lot of pressure on the finger brakes and it > unsticks. I'm a bit puzzled by this. My parking brake valve, as supplied by Europa together with the Jamar junk, has no "feel" in it. I just move the lever back and forth without any force (there is no detectable friction), and it doesn't matter whether the brakes are enganged or not. So, if the parking brake is set it takes no force at all to release it, just a hint of a fingertip is sufficient. > Unfortunately, something else unstuck first! I must have put a > bit too much pressure on the left brake (same one I had bleeding > problems with) and it squirted fluid out. As seen from the picture it looks like someone mishandled the nut, apparently in a desperate attempt to seal it. If it wasn't you who did it just after the recent leak, it looks like it has caused troubles before. Although I hate the Jamar junk it doesn't look like it has anything to do with it this time. You just need to replace the brass nut and seal. Ian just pointed out that the black tube is of the wrong size. Well, I only have the black one but it never gave problems. In your case I wouldn't worry about the one black tube from the central connection, it is indeed connected to the reservoir and never carries any pressure at all. > The next trouble is that I need to get to the parking brake valve to put > a new handle on it From your description I think that your parking brake is broken and needs to be replaced completely. > but I have > no idea how to get to it! Its inside the central tunnel, seemingly > inaccessible. The belly directly under the tunnel was originally intended to be cut away for the monowheel, it is just a thin skin and carries no structural purpose at all. Many trigear owners (like me) have cut it (partly) away nevertheless and created a hatch in place of it. You can still do that and you will find there is so much working space there that you can even stick your head in it. Replacing the parking brake will be very easy that way. Also it offers easy inspection of fuel lines, rudder cables and other things. If there is no hatch there, I wonder how one would carry out the annual inspection. Succes, Frans ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:11 AM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL We were able to upload the video of N283JLs first flight to Youtube. Sue Jeffers took some excellent video and stills and Peter expertly edited it. The video is about 8 minutes long. To view it, go to Youtube and put "N283JL" into your search engine. We are now approaching 10 hours, everything seems to be running fine, and all temps have been in the green for the last two flights. Jim Puglise N283JL, XS Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL From: Paul McAllister Jim, thanks for sharing this. Let the fun begin [?] !!!! On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM, wrote: > We were able to upload the video of N283JLs first flight to Youtube. Sue > Jeffers took some excellent video and stills and Peter expertly edited it. > The video is about 8 minutes long. To view it, go to Youtube and put > "N283JL" into your search engine. We are now approaching 10 hours, > everything seems to be running fine, and all temps have been in the green > for the last two flights. > > Jim Puglise > N283JL, XS Jabiru 3300 > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL From: Robert Borger Jim & Lynn, Thanks for the video! Enjoy! Enjoy! Enjoy! Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:39 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > We were able to upload the video of N283JLs first flight to Youtube. Sue Jeffers took some excellent video and stills and Peter expertly edited it. The video is about 8 minutes long. To view it, go to Youtube and put "N283JL" into your search engine. We are now approaching 10 hours, everything seems to be running fine, and all temps have been in the green for the last two flights. > > Jim Puglise > N283JL, XS Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:07 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL On Nov 27, 2011, at 8:39 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > We were able to upload the video of N283JLs first flight to Youtube. Excellent Jim...a very BIG DAY...thanks for the tip on the video, Fred ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:38 AM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Europa-List: Aluminium Pipe for Fuel Inlet Hi Europa Builders, I have had a request for more Aluminium pipes for the fuel Inlet between the =9Ccobra=9D and the fuel tank. Are there any other builders interested in one? See the attachment. Cheers, Tim Mono Classic #292 ZK-TIM Tim Ward, 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch 8052 New Zealand Ph; 03 3515166 Mob; 0210640221 email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:10 AM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL Wonderful, Jim, you must be very happy, congrats craig From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimpuglise@comcast.net Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:40 AM Subject: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL We were able to upload the video of N283JLs first flight to Youtube. Sue Jeffers took some excellent video and stills and Peter expertly edited it. The video is about 8 minutes long. To view it, go to Youtube and put "N283JL" into your search engine. We are now approaching 10 hours, everything seems to be running fine, and all temps have been in the green for the last two flights. Jim Puglise N283JL, XS Jabiru 3300 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:02 PM PST US From: Jeffrey Roberts Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Video N283JL Jim & lynn, A very hardy Congratulations from Tennessee!! Fly safe & have fun!! Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:34 AM, Robert Borger wrote: > Jim & Lynn, > > Thanks for the video! Enjoy! Enjoy! Enjoy! > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com > > On Nov 27, 2011, at 10:39 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > >> We were able to upload the video of N283JLs first flight to Youtube. Sue Jeffers took some excellent video and stills and Peter expertly edited it. The video is about 8 minutes long. To view it, go to Youtube and put "N283JL" into your search engine. We are now approaching 10 hours, everything seems to be running fine, and all temps have been in the green for the last two flights. >> >> Jim Puglise >> N283JL, XS Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:31 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fwd: question from Rough River From: "Troy Maynor" Jeff, Any weekend is good for Donna and myself. Just let us know. Probably later is better than Labor Day. Troy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=359509#359509 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Diameter of 912 oil hose and oil hose type From: Neville Eyre Hi Guys, Duncan kindly remined me I didn't mention temperature specification in my l ast post, thanks Duncan, I trust builders won't go to B&Q or Walmart for th eir hose, go to a Race Auto shop [Think Automotive or similar outlet], don' t trust the Clerk, refer to the Manufacturers Spec' Sheet to see the hose i s both Oil and Temp suitable.See what racers are using on their Subaru WRX' s and Mitsubushi EVO's and the like ? What I was [ poorly] trying to say is fancy Teflon / Stainless lines are no t needed , and in fact difficult to hook up to the Rotax tank and motor con nections with the Aeroquip / Earls type fittings and too stiff to run in th e limited space easily.. [ and at =C2=A325 / $35 + an end !] Cheers, Nev. -----Original Message----- From: Christoph Both Sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:38 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Diameter of 912 oil hose and oil hose type Hi Nev, Thank you very much for your time. I will heed your advice (as in the past! ). Thanks, Christoph From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Diameter of 912 oil hose and oil hose type Hi Christoph, The oil lines in the circuit do not see the pressure you see on the gauge,t hat stays within the engine, the line from the tank via the cooler to the p ump inlet sees SUCTION, the return line from the crankcase sees just above atmospheric [ crankcase pressure] so you don't need fancy high pressure hos es, but it does need to be oil resistant, and firm enough to not collapse u nder suction. Try Jap or German Auto parts outlets, they will have hose in that horrible foriegn measurement size ! Go for a ''name'' Brand, ie Goodye ar, Pirelli, Conti and you won't be far wrong. I sleeve ALL fuel and oil lines in either / both Firesleeve [ the red rubbe ry glass lined stuff], or the silver foil covered glass sleeve, ACS or ''Bo y Racer'' Auto stores for those. Rather than the ''Jubilee'' worm drive clamps which have a stiff straight p art on them that won't conform to the hose, I go for the ones with a ''swiv el'' nut and bolt that keeps a constant curve to the clamp circumference, t hey also have a flared rim that prevents them digging in to the hose, more expensive than Jubilee's, cheaper than the fancy [ and unnecessary] Aeroqui p sort. Cheers , Nev -----Original Message----- From: Christoph Both Sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:48 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Diameter of 912 oil hose and oil hose type Hello Europa builders: The 912 installation manual specifies a 12-millimeter oil hose connecting t he Rotax to the oil cooler/rotax external oil pan. 12mm hose is hard to get in North America/Canada. =C2=BD inch hose is just a bit wider ID, so my qu estion is, taking into account the considerable oil pressure on start up ex ceeding 100psi, if =C2=BD inch hose is fine =93 of course, properly s ecured with clamps. I have a CLASSIC engine installation and am concerned t hat oil hose directly located above the muffler which, if oil starts drippi ng is an issue with potentially starting a fire. Question #2 then is: which hose type exactly? With the oil sump exit locate d directly above the HOT muffler, at a close distance of less than 1 inch m y preferred selection of hose would be stainless steel braided high pressur e/high temperature product. Weight and not too large OD is an issue as well (5 feet will be used for the entire circuit). I have identified Aeroquip 6 01-8 with SS outer as the most likely product ($20/foot from Aircraft Spruc e) but before I place an order I like to hear your opinion. 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