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0. 12:21 AM - [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:33 AM - Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment bushes (David Joyce)
2. 02:37 AM - Moulding material (Tony Renshaw)
3. 03:28 AM - Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment bushes (Peter Zutrauen)
4. 03:29 AM - Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment bushes (Peter Zutrauen)
5. 04:27 AM - Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment bushes (PHILLIPS I)
6. 06:01 AM - Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment bushes (Andrew Sarangan)
7. 07:15 AM - Revised Letter for RR Dates September 21st & 22nd (Jeffrey Roberts)
8. 07:24 AM - RR Rain Or Sun (Jeffrey Roberts)
9. 09:49 AM - Re: RR Rain Or Sun (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
10. 10:01 AM - Chattering brakes (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
11. 12:24 PM - Re: Moulding material (craig)
12. 12:43 PM - Re: Chattering brakes (PHILLIPS I)
13. 12:59 PM - Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment bushes (Jan de Jong)
14. 02:33 PM - Re: RR Rain Or Sun (Jeffrey Roberts)
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| Subject: | Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment |
bushes
Andrew, A couple of points possibly of value :
1) When setting up the wings the manual (or at least my version of it) talks
about checking that the distance from wing tip to tail on each side is the
same. This manoevre led me to all sorts of confusion, which was only settled
when I realised that there is only one sensible location for the spars and
that is tight against the seat back. You definitely do not want the spars
set back from the seat back with the spar pins bridging the gap, which would
be asking the spar pins to do more than they are designed for. I would
advise setting up the spars with some pieces of wood jammed behind them in
the tunnel to ensure they are tight aginst the seat back. If one wing tip is
a 1/2" closer to the tail than the other it is because the fueslage or your
fixing of the cockpit module is less than absolutely symmetrical, but it is
of no consequence.
2) The location of the spars gives an approximation to the right
rigging angle for the wings, but the precise angle is set by your
positioning of the lift pins. I would strongly recommend buying or borrowing
a Smartool (which measures to 1/10 degree, to ensure that you get the two
wings set as close the same angle as possible. Even a small difference in
rigging angle will of course leave you with an irritating lateral trim issue
and quite possibly to a built in tendency to drop a wing in the stall.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:57 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment
bushes
>
> I am about to embark on bonding the spar alignment bushes into the
> cockpit module (chapter 14). The manual says to set the wing spar
> parallel to the front of the seat back, and that this is good enough
> for now. That seems rather arbitrary to me, given that the tolerance
> required later is 2.5 +/- 0.05 degrees. I am confused how the angle of
> incidence can be adjusted in the future with the bushes already bonded
> in. Would it not be best if the bushes are bonded after setting the
> 2.5 deg incidence? But then I am uncertain how to infer the angle of
> incidence with the cockpit module sitting face down on the floor. Any
> thoughts from experienced builders would be appreciated!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Moulding material |
Gidday,
I am attempting to remould my door tang fuselage recesses, with the doors open
and the top off the fuselage, doors on. I have only opened up the original recesses
on their inboard ends, leaving the hing attachment areas as original. The
door tangs protrude up into the space and I could always spend hours gluing
pieces of foam onto the tangs when taped, and then try and tidy up their shapes,
then glass over the top of that and in time dissolve the foam. I am wondering
if there is another way, maybe using glad wrap, thin plastic sandwich wrap,
and modelling clay. I am wondering if anyone has a moulding material that is
easy to shape, and easy to dissolve away leaving a nice surface afterwards. If
not, well I'll just struggle on but there must be an easier way that currently
escapes me.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Aussie.
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| Subject: | Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment |
bushes
Hi Andrew,
It's great to hear you've got back at it! Are you going to be updating
your website again?
My status? Sadly still at 1% due to about 10 false starts due to life.
Just bought into a 1946 Canuck tho (created the not for profit "Heritage
Fun Fliers Inc", so I'm back flying after a 10 year absence. Quite the
motivator! Now that the snag list on the Canuck is gone, I'm about to try
for #11, but this time with the Canuck to spur me onwards, I plan to keep
at it. My website has also been dead for about 10 years too.
Cheers & blue skies,
Pete :)
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Hi Pete,
> Thanks for that response. It is good to know that the drilled holes
> are predetermined for the correct angle. My concern actually arose
> from reading others' posting that the the pins were difficult to
> engage, which I assumed came from small twists during the angle
> setting process. These are long bolts, so I suspect even a fraction of
> a degree rotation would cause the holes to become misaligned. If I
> could somehow verify using some reference points inside the cockpit
> module that the bushes I am about to bond are actually at the correct
> angle, that would be a great relief.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > The wing incidence is pre determined by the pre drilled bushes in both
> the
> > wing spars and the fuselage. The angle of attack does need to be set by
> > you. Parallel to the front of the seat back refers to both spars being
> > parallel to the seat back when viewed from ABOVE.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this will give you a different view on the problem
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Europa club LAA inspector
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Sarangan
> > Sent: 29 November 2011 18:57
> > To: Europa List
> > Subject: Europa-List: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar
> alignment
> > bushes
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am about to embark on bonding the spar alignment bushes into the
> >
> > cockpit module (chapter 14). The manual says to set the wing spar
> >
> > parallel to the front of the seat back, and that this is good enough
> >
> > for now. That seems rather arbitrary to me, given that the tolerance
> >
> > required later is 2.5 +/- 0.05 degrees. I am confused how the angle of
> >
> > incidence can be adjusted in the future with the bushes already bonded
> >
> > in. Would it not be best if the bushes are bonded after setting the
> >
> > 2.5 deg incidence? But then I am uncertain how to infer the angle of
> >
> > incidence with the cockpit module sitting face down on the floor. Any
> >
> > thoughts from experienced builders would be appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> >
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment |
bushes
Sorry all, wasn't meant for the list.
Guess that means I *gotta* keep at it now ;-)
Cheers,
Pete
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> It's great to hear you've got back at it! Are you going to be updating
> your website again?
>
> My status? Sadly still at 1% due to about 10 false starts due to life.
> Just bought into a 1946 Canuck tho (created the not for profit "Heritage
> Fun Fliers Inc", so I'm back flying after a 10 year absence. Quite the
> motivator! Now that the snag list on the Canuck is gone, I'm about to try
> for #11, but this time with the Canuck to spur me onwards, I plan to keep
> at it. My website has also been dead for about 10 years too.
>
> Cheers & blue skies,
> Pete :)
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Pete,
>> Thanks for that response. It is good to know that the drilled holes
>> are predetermined for the correct angle. My concern actually arose
>> from reading others' posting that the the pins were difficult to
>> engage, which I assumed came from small twists during the angle
>> setting process. These are long bolts, so I suspect even a fraction of
>> a degree rotation would cause the holes to become misaligned. If I
>> could somehow verify using some reference points inside the cockpit
>> module that the bushes I am about to bond are actually at the correct
>> angle, that would be a great relief.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Andrew,
>> >
>> > The wing incidence is pre determined by the pre drilled bushes in both
>> the
>> > wing spars and the fuselage. The angle of attack does need to be set by
>> > you. Parallel to the front of the seat back refers to both spars being
>> > parallel to the seat back when viewed from ABOVE.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope this will give you a different view on the problem
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Pete Europa club LAA inspector
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>> Sarangan
>> > Sent: 29 November 2011 18:57
>> > To: Europa List
>> > Subject: Europa-List: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar
>> alignment
>> > bushes
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am about to embark on bonding the spar alignment bushes into the
>> >
>> > cockpit module (chapter 14). The manual says to set the wing spar
>> >
>> > parallel to the front of the seat back, and that this is good enough
>> >
>> > for now. That seems rather arbitrary to me, given that the tolerance
>> >
>> > required later is 2.5 +/- 0.05 degrees. I am confused how the angle of
>> >
>> > incidence can be adjusted in the future with the bushes already bonded
>> >
>> > in. Would it not be best if the bushes are bonded after setting the
>> >
>> > 2.5 deg incidence? But then I am uncertain how to infer the angle of
>> >
>> > incidence with the cockpit module sitting face down on the floor. Any
>> >
>> > thoughts from experienced builders would be appreciated!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----
>> >
>> > No virus found in this message.
>> >
>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment |
bushes
Pete
That will be the only way you will get it finished :-)
best wishes on the the 11 start and it will be worth it when complete,
Regards
Ivor phillips
G-IVER
On 30 November 2011 11:26, Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
> Sorry all, wasn't meant for the list.
>
> Guess that means I *gotta* keep at it now ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Pete
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> It's great to hear you've got back at it! Are you going to be updating
>> your website again?
>>
>> My status? Sadly still at 1% due to about 10 false starts due to
>> life. Just bought into a 1946 Canuck tho (created the not for profit
>> "Heritage Fun Fliers Inc", so I'm back flying after a 10 year absence.
>> Quite the motivator! Now that the snag list on the Canuck is gone, I'm
>> about to try for #11, but this time with the Canuck to spur me onwards, I
>> plan to keep at it. My website has also been dead for about 10 years too.
>>
>> Cheers & blue skies,
>> Pete :)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Pete,
>>> Thanks for that response. It is good to know that the drilled holes
>>> are predetermined for the correct angle. My concern actually arose
>>> from reading others' posting that the the pins were difficult to
>>> engage, which I assumed came from small twists during the angle
>>> setting process. These are long bolts, so I suspect even a fraction of
>>> a degree rotation would cause the holes to become misaligned. If I
>>> could somehow verify using some reference points inside the cockpit
>>> module that the bushes I am about to bond are actually at the correct
>>> angle, that would be a great relief.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Andrew,
>>> >
>>> > The wing incidence is pre determined by the pre drilled bushes in both
>>> the
>>> > wing spars and the fuselage. The angle of attack does need to be set
>>> by
>>> > you. Parallel to the front of the seat back refers to both spars being
>>> > parallel to the seat back when viewed from ABOVE.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hope this will give you a different view on the problem
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Pete Europa club LAA inspector
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
>>> Sarangan
>>> > Sent: 29 November 2011 18:57
>>> > To: Europa List
>>> > Subject: Europa-List: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar
>>> alignment
>>> > bushes
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> asarangan@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am about to embark on bonding the spar alignment bushes into the
>>> >
>>> > cockpit module (chapter 14). The manual says to set the wing spar
>>> >
>>> > parallel to the front of the seat back, and that this is good enough
>>> >
>>> > for now. That seems rather arbitrary to me, given that the tolerance
>>> >
>>> > required later is 2.5 +/- 0.05 degrees. I am confused how the angle of
>>> >
>>> > incidence can be adjusted in the future with the bushes already bonded
>>> >
>>> > in. Would it not be best if the bushes are bonded after setting the
>>> >
>>> > 2.5 deg incidence? But then I am uncertain how to infer the angle of
>>> >
>>> > incidence with the cockpit module sitting face down on the floor. Any
>>> >
>>> > thoughts from experienced builders would be appreciated!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----
>>> >
>>> > No virus found in this message.
>>> >
>>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> >
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| Subject: | Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment |
bushes
So, if I am understanding it correctly - set the spars firmly against
the seat-back, then set the seat-back perfectly square against the
canoe side walls when bonding the cockpit module, then all should be
ok.
If the manual had a stated that the seatback is already set at 2.5
degrees inclination this question would not have come up at all. I
have found this in several areas of the manual. It tells you what to
do but leaves out the why. It might be useful someday to create a user
commentary addendum for each chapter, based on the insights and
experience from other builders. May be that is something I can work on
in the future.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:29 AM, David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> wrote:
>
> Andrew, A couple of points possibly of value :
> 1) When setting up the wings the manual (or at least my version of it) talks
> about checking that the distance from wing tip to tail on each side is the
> same. This manoevre led me to all sorts of confusion, which was only settled
> when I realised that there is only one sensible location for the spars and
> that is tight against the seat back. You definitely do not want the spars
> set back from the seat back with the spar pins bridging the gap, which would
> be asking the spar pins to do more than they are designed for. I would
> advise setting up the spars with some pieces of wood jammed behind them in
> the tunnel to ensure they are tight aginst the seat back. If one wing tip is
> a 1/2" closer to the tail than the other it is because the fueslage or your
> fixing of the cockpit module is less than absolutely symmetrical, but it is
> of no consequence.
> 2) The location of the spars gives an approximation to the right rigging
> angle for the wings, but the precise angle is set by your positioning of the
> lift pins. I would strongly recommend buying or borrowing a Smartool (which
> measures to 1/10 degree, to ensure that you get the two wings set as close
> the same angle as possible. Even a small difference in rigging angle will of
> course leave you with an irritating lateral trim issue and quite possibly to
> a built in tendency to drop a wing in the stall.
> Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@gmail.com>
> To: "Europa List" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:57 PM
>
> Subject: Europa-List: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment
> bushes
>
>
>>
>> I am about to embark on bonding the spar alignment bushes into the
>> cockpit module (chapter 14). The manual says to set the wing spar
>> parallel to the front of the seat back, and that this is good enough
>> for now. That seems rather arbitrary to me, given that the tolerance
>> required later is 2.5 +/- 0.05 degrees. I am confused how the angle of
>> incidence can be adjusted in the future with the bushes already bonded
>> in. Would it not be best if the bushes are bonded after setting the
>> 2.5 deg incidence? But then I am uncertain how to infer the angle of
>> incidence with the cockpit module sitting face down on the floor. Any
>> thoughts from experienced builders would be appreciated!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Revised Letter for RR Dates September 21st & 22nd |
1st let me say I corrected my error on the letter below. If enough of you chime
in and wish to move the date to October 4th & 5th I'll see what I can do. Now
would be the time. 21st & 22nd had the most available as far as cabins & rooms
but the 4th & 5th could work. Maybe some voting here?
Hi All,
Finally managed to get to Donna at Rough River lodge as she's been on vacation.
She's the one that books the group blocks of rooms & cabins. When you call I
would ask for her.
I believe most everyone has agreed that the Labor Day weekend wasn't right and
most wanted to go as close to October as possible. So here's the deal... The weekend
of the 14th & 15th had sport aviation booked and not many rooms left. The
weekend of the 28th & 29th had no avails due to a large wedding so that left
us with either the 7&8th or the 21st & 22nd. So I went with the 21st & 22nd.
I hope you all agree. I know some have shown an interest in the 1st week of October
and the lodge has some opening's that weekend however going from memory
I think weather can start being more of a factor then. The 21st & 22nd is wide
open as far as rooms go so unless I contact her we're good to go on that weekend.
She has set aside a block of rooms and cabins to cover us based on years
past but the sooner we each book the better we are. Last year was slow due to
weather & commitments so lets turn this around and make 2012 the best yet.
Hope this is good for you all. If we as a group feel we should change lets chime
in here and I'll get er done. I will also contact the weather gods early and
put our order in for a fabulous weekend and suggest you all do the same. Just
let me know and I'll start the list.
Best Regards,
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush.... Flying great once again.
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Click on this link and scroll down. It shows September is the best month for no
rain but October is 2nd best so if changing the dates to October the 4th & 5th
would get more of us there let me know and we'll do it.
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USKY0912
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
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| Subject: | Re: RR Rain Or Sun |
Jeff-
I know that the October dates would be better for Tony and Peter, and it would
really be nice to have them.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:21:48 AM
Subject: Europa-List: RR Rain Or Sun
Click on this link and scroll down. It shows September is the best month for no
rain but October is 2nd best so if changing the dates to October the 4th & 5th
would get more of us there let me know and we'll do it.
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USKY0912
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
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| Subject: | Chattering brakes |
I used the kit-furnished Jamar brake cylinders and Matco calipers. The brakes work
fine, but there is about 1/8 play if you wiggle the calipers, and they chatter
like crazy while in motion. If I exert just enough pressure to move the pucks
a little, the chatter disappears. It appears to me that there is too much
play in the calipers, but we checked the drawings, and everything is installed
properly.
Any ideas?
Jim Puglise
N283JL, now at 10.2 hours
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| Subject: | Moulding material |
There is tony, I'll email you later with how I did it, got to run to work
now
Craig
goldcoast
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:35 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Moulding material
Gidday,
I am attempting to remould my door tang fuselage recesses, with the doors
open and the top off the fuselage, doors on. I have only opened up the
original recesses on their inboard ends, leaving the hing attachment areas
as original. The door tangs protrude up into the space and I could always
spend hours gluing pieces of foam onto the tangs when taped, and then try
and tidy up their shapes, then glass over the top of that and in time
dissolve the foam. I am wondering if there is another way, maybe using glad
wrap, thin plastic sandwich wrap, and modelling clay. I am wondering if
anyone has a moulding material that is easy to shape, and easy to dissolve
away leaving a nice surface afterwards. If not, well I'll just struggle on
but there must be an easier way that currently escapes me.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Aussie.
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| Subject: | Re: Chattering brakes |
Hi Jim
just a thought have you fitted the four spacers for the torque plate and
brake pads
I also used some copperslip between the spacers for lubrcation, another
problem i had in the early days was the allen screws hold the discs to the
wheels became loose even with the locking wire, this caused some noise when
taxying, solved it by using loctite and locking wire,
regards
ivor
G-IVER
On 30 November 2011 17:58, <jimpuglise@comcast.net> wrote:
> I used the kit-furnished Jamar brake cylinders and Matco calipers. The
> brakes work fine, but there is about 1/8 play if you wiggle the calipers,
> and they chatter like crazy while in motion. If I exert just enough
> pressure to move the pucks a little, the chatter disappears. It appears to
> me that there is too much play in the calipers, but we checked the
> drawings, and everything is installed properly.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Jim Puglise
> N283JL, now at 10.2 hours
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Setting angle of incidence for bonding spar alignment |
bushes
Andrew,
Whether it did any good I don't know (yet), but I painted the fitting
bolts (enlarging their diameter) before fitting the cockpit module
bushes to the spars - hoping to increase future wiggle room for the spar
pins.
Jan de Jong
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| Subject: | Re: RR Rain Or Sun |
I'll work on it tomorrow and let you all know. I agree we need them all
to come.
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Nov 30, 2011, at 11:45 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
> Jeff-
>
> I know that the October dates would be better for Tony and Peter, and
it would really be nice to have them.
>
> Jim
>
> From: "Jeffrey Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:21:48 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: RR Rain Or Sun
>
>
> Click on this link and scroll down. It shows September is the best
month for no rain but October is 2nd best so if changing the dates to
October the 4th & 5th would get more of us there let me know and we'll
do it.
>
> http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USKY0912
>
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