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Sun 12/11/11


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 04:10 AM - Re: AC powered fin strobe (Richard Lamprey)
     2. 05:11 AM - first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (graeme bird)
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Robert Borger)
     4. 06:53 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Steve Pitt)
     5. 09:44 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (flyingphil2)
     6. 09:51 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
     7. 11:24 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (europapa)
     8. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Tim Ward)
     9. 12:44 PM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Bob Harrison)
    10. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: AC powered fin strobe (Frans Veldman)
    11. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: AC powered fin strobe (Paul McAllister)
    12. 06:49 PM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Kingsley Hurst)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:10:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: AC powered fin strobe
    From: "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
    Yes, really meant in series... its is mak by Aircraft Spruce, heres the description, also the attachment shows the circuit: Has no effect on the charging or electrical system. *Works on a simple lighting coil system only...without a regulator or *Will work along with a complex battery charging system...with a regulator Designed for most Light plane engines..... Rotax, HKS, Hirth, Zenoah, MZ...... THE BRIGHTEST AC POWERED STROBE LIGHT AVAILABLE 25 JOULES (watt-second) and yet... It is the most efficient strobe light available because... It uses only the power that is normally wasted by a voltage regulator... Unlike automobile regulators, U.L. regulators short to ground OR dump all the current that is not used with the battery, wasting 4 to 15 amps and that is why this strobe is so BRIGHT. Will NOT drain battery and, in fact, NO BATTERY IS NEEDED !! Can be connected directly to the lighting coil, NO voltage regulator is required Uses the yellow wires out of the engine OR any 2 to 14 amp AC power source. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360664#360664 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/illusion_simplewiring_wswitch_108.doc


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    Time: 05:11:39 AM PST US
    Subject: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
    inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper. Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to any other 912 engined plane. "A good one" the man said. However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665


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    Time: 05:44:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Graeme, CONGRATULATIONS! on the first flight of G-UMPY. You should be able to resolve the plumbing issue and enjoy many hours flying your own Bird. I'll be at the hanger later this morning and will see if I can get some pictures of my down-pipe for you. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:08 AM, graeme bird wrote: > > inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper. > Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to any other 912 engined plane. > "A good one" the man said. > However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue? > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP > Build nearing completion > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:53:28 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    Congratulations Graeme - hope to see you out and about during the coming year. Steve Pitt G-SMDH trigear XS ----- Original Message ----- From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:08 PM Subject: Europa-List: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell > > inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of > Andy Draper. > Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any > different to any other 912 engined plane. > "A good one" the man said. > However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the > radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air > guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add > insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this > issue? > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP > Build nearing completion > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665 > > >


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    Time: 09:44:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    From: "flyingphil2" <ptiller@lolacars.com>
    Well done and congratulations Graeme, bet you can't wait to fly it yourself. Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360680#360680


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    Time: 09:51:58 AM PST US
    From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    Graeme- CONGRATULATIONS! Isn't it nice to have most of the build behind you? Not starts the real work! Enjoy! Jim Puglise N283JL -- 13.8 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:08:11 AM Subject: Europa-List: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper. Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to any other 912 engined plane. "A good one" the man said. However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665


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    Time: 11:24:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    From: "europapa" <jubu@onlinehome.de>
    Hi Graeme, congrats to this big moment. On my Europa classic I had the same problem with the radiator hose to close to the exhaust. The hose broke one due to the high temperature. The owner before then used some heat shield material, zhe same as used on the firewall. That worked so far but I now replaced the hose with a alloy pipe but have not been airborne jet. The Rotax installation book recommends this too. Regards Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360690#360690


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    Time: 12:09:06 PM PST US
    From: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    Congratulations Graeme, well done. All the best for the test flying which is great fun and enjoy the touring. Nice to see another "classic" in the air. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 >


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    Time: 12:44:14 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    Well done Graham. Now join up for some tours..... Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 11 December 2011 13:08 Subject: Europa-List: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper. Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to any other 912 engined plane. "A good one" the man said. However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665


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    Time: 01:34:09 PM PST US
    From: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>
    Subject: Re: AC powered fin strobe
    On 12/11/2011 01:06 PM, Richard Lamprey wrote: > Yes, really meant in series... It doesn't say so in the description. Why do you think it is intended to be connected in series? > also the attachment shows the circuit: I didn't see any attachment. > Has no effect on the charging or electrical system. Free electricity. Sounds to be too good to be true. > *Works on a simple lighting coil system only...without a regulator or Maybe the Rotax two-cycle engines are different, maybe they are talking about that family of engines? > It uses only the power that is normally wasted by a voltage regulator... The voltage regulator of the 912/914 doesn't "waste" enough power to power a strobe. > Unlike automobile regulators, U.L. regulators short to ground OR I have the schematic diagram of the Ducati regulator somewhere, but as I recall it doesn't short to ground. If that were true, the regulators would become hotter when less current is used in the electrical system. That doesn't seem to reflect the reality. > Uses the yellow wires out of the engine OR any 2 to 14 amp AC power source. If it uses both yellow wires it is a parallel system. Anyway, it is interesting but I could nowhere find any more information than the one given on ACS, and that is a bit of gibberish to me. So far I get the impression that the selling point of this thing is that you don't need a battery or regulator, which may be of interest to owners of ultra light aircraft, gyrocopters and other minimal setups. Frans


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    Time: 03:14:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AC powered fin strobe
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    I am guessing that this strobe is targeted towards the 2 cycle family of Rotax engines. It's appeal would be in its simplicity to wire up. Neat idea. do not archive. On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>wrote: > > > On 12/11/2011 01:06 PM, Richard Lamprey wrote: > > Yes, really meant in series... >> > > It doesn't say so in the description. Why do you think it is intended to > be connected in series? > > > also the attachment shows the circuit: >> > > I didn't see any attachment. > > > Has no effect on the charging or electrical system. >> > > Free electricity. Sounds to be too good to be true. > > > *Works on a simple lighting coil system only...without a regulator or >> > > Maybe the Rotax two-cycle engines are different, maybe they are talking > about that family of engines? > > > It uses only the power that is normally wasted by a voltage regulator... >> > > The voltage regulator of the 912/914 doesn't "waste" enough power to power > a strobe. > > > Unlike automobile regulators, U.L. regulators short to ground OR >> > > I have the schematic diagram of the Ducati regulator somewhere, but as I > recall it doesn't short to ground. If that were true, the regulators would > become hotter when less current is used in the electrical system. That > doesn't seem to reflect the reality. > > > Uses the yellow wires out of the engine OR any 2 to 14 amp AC power >> source. >> > > If it uses both yellow wires it is a parallel system. > > Anyway, it is interesting but I could nowhere find any more information > than the one given on ACS, and that is a bit of gibberish to me. > > So far I get the impression that the selling point of this thing is that > you don't need a battery or regulator, which may be of interest to owners > of ultra light aircraft, gyrocopters and other minimal setups. > > Frans >


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    Time: 06:49:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
    From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
    Congratulations Graeme and all the best for many enjoyable hours of flying in the future. Gee, mine must be close to being the only Classic yet to fly!! Best regards Kingsley in Oz Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On 11/12/2011, at 11:08 PM, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: > > inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper. > Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to any other 912 engined plane. > "A good one" the man said. > However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue? > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP > Build nearing completion > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665 > > > > > > > > >




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