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1. 04:10 AM - Re: AC powered fin strobe (Richard Lamprey)
2. 05:11 AM - first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (graeme bird)
3. 05:44 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Robert Borger)
4. 06:53 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Steve Pitt)
5. 09:44 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (flyingphil2)
6. 09:51 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
7. 11:24 AM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (europapa)
8. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Tim Ward)
9. 12:44 PM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Bob Harrison)
10. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: AC powered fin strobe (Frans Veldman)
11. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: AC powered fin strobe (Paul McAllister)
12. 06:49 PM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (Kingsley Hurst)
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Subject: | Re: AC powered fin strobe |
Yes, really meant in series... its is mak by Aircraft Spruce, heres the description,
also the attachment shows the circuit:
Has no effect on the charging or electrical system.
*Works on a simple lighting coil system only...without a regulator or
*Will work along with a complex battery charging system...with a regulator
Designed for most Light plane engines..... Rotax, HKS, Hirth, Zenoah, MZ......
THE BRIGHTEST AC POWERED STROBE LIGHT AVAILABLE
25 JOULES (watt-second) and yet...
It is the most efficient strobe light available because...
It uses only the power that is normally wasted by a voltage regulator...
Unlike automobile regulators, U.L. regulators short to ground OR
dump all the current that is not used with the battery, wasting 4 to 15 amps and
that is why this strobe is so BRIGHT.
Will NOT drain battery and, in fact, NO BATTERY IS NEEDED !!
Can be connected directly to the lighting coil, NO voltage regulator is required
Uses the yellow wires out of the engine OR any 2 to 14 amp AC power source.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360664#360664
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Subject: | first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper.
Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to
any other 912 engined plane.
"A good one" the man said.
However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator
is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down
and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its
a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue?
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
Build nearing completion
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Graeme,
CONGRATULATIONS! on the first flight of G-UMPY. You should be able to resolve
the plumbing issue and enjoy many hours flying your own Bird. I'll be at the
hanger later this morning and will see if I can get some pictures of my down-pipe
for you.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Dec 11, 2011, at 7:08 AM, graeme bird wrote:
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> inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy
Draper.
> Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different
to any other 912 engined plane.
> "A good one" the man said.
> However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator
is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down
and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow.
Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue?
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> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
> Build nearing completion
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Congratulations Graeme - hope to see you out and about during the coming
year.
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH trigear XS
----- Original Message -----
From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 1:08 PM
Subject: Europa-List: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
>
> inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of
> Andy Draper.
> Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any
> different to any other 912 engined plane.
> "A good one" the man said.
> However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the
> radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air
> guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add
> insulation somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this
> issue?
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
> Build nearing completion
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Well done and congratulations Graeme, bet you can't wait to fly it yourself.
Phil
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Graeme-
CONGRATULATIONS! Isn't it nice to have most of the build behind you? Not starts
the real work! Enjoy!
Jim Puglise
N283JL -- 13.8 hrs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:08:11 AM
Subject: Europa-List: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy Draper.
Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different to
any other 912 engined plane.
"A good one" the man said.
However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator
is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down
and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow. Its
a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue?
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
Build nearing completion
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Hi Graeme,
congrats to this big moment.
On my Europa classic I had the same problem with the radiator hose to close to
the exhaust.
The hose broke one due to the high temperature.
The owner before then used some heat shield material, zhe same as used on the firewall.
That worked so far but I now replaced the hose with a alloy pipe but have not been
airborne jet.
The Rotax installation book recommends this too.
Regards Juergen
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Congratulations Graeme, well done. All the best for the test flying which is great
fun and enjoy the touring. Nice to see another "classic" in the air.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
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Subject: | first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Well done Graham.
Now join up for some tours.....
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird
Sent: 11 December 2011 13:08
Subject: Europa-List: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell
inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of
Andy Draper.
Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different
to any other 912 engined plane.
"A good one" the man said.
However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the
radiator is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air
guide down and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation
somehow. Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue?
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
Build nearing completion
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665
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Subject: | Re: AC powered fin strobe |
On 12/11/2011 01:06 PM, Richard Lamprey wrote:
> Yes, really meant in series...
It doesn't say so in the description. Why do you think it is intended to
be connected in series?
> also the attachment shows the circuit:
I didn't see any attachment.
> Has no effect on the charging or electrical system.
Free electricity. Sounds to be too good to be true.
> *Works on a simple lighting coil system only...without a regulator or
Maybe the Rotax two-cycle engines are different, maybe they are talking
about that family of engines?
> It uses only the power that is normally wasted by a voltage regulator...
The voltage regulator of the 912/914 doesn't "waste" enough power to
power a strobe.
> Unlike automobile regulators, U.L. regulators short to ground OR
I have the schematic diagram of the Ducati regulator somewhere, but as I
recall it doesn't short to ground. If that were true, the regulators
would become hotter when less current is used in the electrical system.
That doesn't seem to reflect the reality.
> Uses the yellow wires out of the engine OR any 2 to 14 amp AC power source.
If it uses both yellow wires it is a parallel system.
Anyway, it is interesting but I could nowhere find any more information
than the one given on ACS, and that is a bit of gibberish to me.
So far I get the impression that the selling point of this thing is that
you don't need a battery or regulator, which may be of interest to
owners of ultra light aircraft, gyrocopters and other minimal setups.
Frans
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Subject: | Re: AC powered fin strobe |
I am guessing that this strobe is targeted towards the 2 cycle family of
Rotax engines. It's appeal would be in its simplicity to wire up. Neat
idea.
do not archive.
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>wrote:
>
>
> On 12/11/2011 01:06 PM, Richard Lamprey wrote:
>
> Yes, really meant in series...
>>
>
> It doesn't say so in the description. Why do you think it is intended to
> be connected in series?
>
>
> also the attachment shows the circuit:
>>
>
> I didn't see any attachment.
>
>
> Has no effect on the charging or electrical system.
>>
>
> Free electricity. Sounds to be too good to be true.
>
>
> *Works on a simple lighting coil system only...without a regulator or
>>
>
> Maybe the Rotax two-cycle engines are different, maybe they are talking
> about that family of engines?
>
>
> It uses only the power that is normally wasted by a voltage regulator...
>>
>
> The voltage regulator of the 912/914 doesn't "waste" enough power to power
> a strobe.
>
>
> Unlike automobile regulators, U.L. regulators short to ground OR
>>
>
> I have the schematic diagram of the Ducati regulator somewhere, but as I
> recall it doesn't short to ground. If that were true, the regulators would
> become hotter when less current is used in the electrical system. That
> doesn't seem to reflect the reality.
>
>
> Uses the yellow wires out of the engine OR any 2 to 14 amp AC power
>> source.
>>
>
> If it uses both yellow wires it is a parallel system.
>
> Anyway, it is interesting but I could nowhere find any more information
> than the one given on ACS, and that is a bit of gibberish to me.
>
> So far I get the impression that the selling point of this thing is that
> you don't need a battery or regulator, which may be of interest to owners
> of ultra light aircraft, gyrocopters and other minimal setups.
>
> Frans
>
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Subject: | Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell |
Congratulations Graeme and all the best for many enjoyable hours of flying in the
future.
Gee, mine must be close to being the only Classic yet to fly!!
Best regards
Kingsley in Oz
Do not archive
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On 11/12/2011, at 11:08 PM, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
>
> inaugural flight of G-UMPY yesterday and Sywell, at the capable hands of Andy
Draper.
> Sounds fantastic going overhead, dont know why it should sound any different
to any other 912 engined plane.
> "A good one" the man said.
> However, on inspection after today's flight the Port water downpipe to the radiator
is too close to the exhaust. I'll need to move the raditor/air guide down
and back slightly and maybe use a silicone pipe or add insulation somehow.
Its a classic body with XS FWFD anyone else had this issue?
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
> Build nearing completion
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360665#360665
>
>
>
>
>
>
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