---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/14/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:31 AM - NACA vents needed (stephen vestuti) 2. 02:57 AM - Re: Bottom cut-outs (Karl Heindl) 3. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (William Daniell) 4. 07:18 AM - Re: AC powered fin strobe (Richard Lamprey) 5. 12:03 PM - Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell (stephen vestuti) 6. 12:25 PM - Build & test flight pictures G-UMPY (graeme bird) 7. 03:28 PM - Spacere in Matco Brakes (jimpuglise@comcast.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:04 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: NACA vents needed From: "stephen vestuti" Hi all, I am in need of a pair of standard Europa naca vents, if anyone has an unused pair they'd like to sell then please contact me, I will pay all charges, Steve. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360899#360899 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:57:17 AM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Bottom cut-outs That vacant monowheel space seemed a real waste to me. I installed a Lexan window in two parts=2C fixed and sliding=2C and also made the front bulkhea d out of lexan in an aluminum frame. This allows me to inspect the nosewhee l suspension and wheel from inside the cockpit=2C do aerial photography=2C drop hand grenades or anything else I need to get rid of. Could also be use d for extra ventilation.The window is easily removable for an opening large enough to stick my head into.The top of the tunnel also has a removable op ening. I have all the usual stuff coming through the tunnel=2C including Ja mar based finger brakes=2C but these are mounted to the underside of the fo rward tunnel=2C completely different and much simpler than the factory solu tion. Throttle (push/pull with friction lock) and choke are mounted in mini panel below main panel. So I can still use all of the tunnel for extra sto rage for maps etc. The above is best prepared at an early stage=2C before installing the instr ument and cockpit modules. I cut back the middle lower section of the instr ument module to expose more tunnel top=2C and I installed re-enforcement bi d brackets around the bottom opening before bonding in the cockpit module =2C although that was probably unnecessary.I have no pictures at the momen t as I am a long way from my aircraft. Cheers=2C Karl From: Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu Subject: RE: Europa-List: Bottom cut-outs I also have the tri-gear=2C and have the wheel well area covered with a doo r. I also cut out the area A (on your drawing) and made one long oval door between the two round holes . I reinforced this oval opening with thin alu minum and glass. In addition=2C I put an additional several layers of glass across the entire bottom and up the sides about 6 inches. In part I did th is to reinforce the hole I made between the normal round holes and also be cause a friend with an older Europa said that after a few years his Tri-gea r developed cracks around the gear supports. The rule is that you have to r eplace a cut out area with some multiple of the area removed (4?=2C 6?). I probably went over board and will see the costs of my over- reinforcement n ext month when we do the weight and balance (I have nightmares that I have built a single person plane ' and that person must be skinny ' somethin g I am not.) I would not be too happy about cutting out more as in area B in your drawing ' especially after the cockpit is in and you can=92t rei nforce the surrounding glass from the inside. ' although the way the cock pit module is glued in means the structure is really strong. Although my g as valve is on the top of the cockpit module center armrest I did cut out t he provided cutout for the gas value on the co-pilot side of the cockpit mo dule. This approximately 6=94 hole does provide some access. The other app roach is to move the parts so they are accessible. I have been through seve ral revisions of the fuel system to make it maintainable. The rule I have f ound is that it takes 1 X of time to make it work=2C 2 X to make it work an d be maintainable=2C and 3x of time to make it work=2C be maintainable and be pretty. Or maybe you can get your spouse (with hopefully small hands) or a small child to do that part of the maintenance. Gary LeinbergerA237Real near flying (except for just a few =93little=94 things) From: owner-europ a-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sidsel & Svein Johnsen Sent: Tuesday=2C December 13=2C 2011 10:39 AM Subject: Europa-List: Bottom cut-outs When I installed the fuel hoses in th e then not yet installed cockpit module(supply line=2C return=2C drains=2C sight tube)=2C I did not think about renewing the hoses. Now=2C I realize that access to some of this is difficult=2C at best. I built my plane with a cut-out in the bottom where the monowheel would have been (mine is a tri- gear)=2C with a hinged hatch door for easy access to gascolator=2C fuel pum p=2C drains=2C Andair fuel selector valve=2C etc. It is=2C alas=2C too tig ht to reach further back and do much there. I know that some have cut out t he bottom between the two round tank outlet inspection hatches ' see the green area A on the attached sketch. I cannot see that this weakens the c onstruction=2C but on the other hand it may not give me the access I would like. Has anyone cut out the red area=2C marked B? If so=2C how has it bee n covered/the area reinforced? Although the very strong cockpit module pro bably carry the loads on its own=2C this part does give some contribution t o strength. I can see ways to maintain the strength when a cover plate is bolted in place=2C but if anyone has already tread this path=2C I would app reciate to know the details. Regards=2CSveinLN-SKJ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:43 AM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell Belated congrats from Colombia...i second fred's comments Will -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 13 December, 2011 17:08 Subject: Europa-List: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell Thanks for all the posts, really nice of you all. I attach a picture of the plane (same as the rest, except perhaps not so polished) and Andy Draper and my inspector Matthew Boddington. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360870#360870 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/g_umpy_01_117.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:27 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: AC powered fin strobe From: "Richard Lamprey" Thanks Frans and Jan, An additional wiring diagram shows the switch that by-passes the strobe box from the AC supply as 20 Amp, so there's a hefty current. I'll be putting the box as close to the rectifier as possible, and use the existing 22 AWG strobe wiring from the previous installation for connection to the strobe in the tail. There will be no point to running the AC strobe continuously, but mainly flying in the circuit, approach, on the apron, etc. Lets see what happens. Best Richard Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360910#360910 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:26 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: first flight of G-UMPY Sywell From: "stephen vestuti" Well Done and Congratulations ! she looks stunning. Looks as if all those hours in the shed have finally paid off. Happy Flying ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360930#360930 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:07 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Build & test flight pictures G-UMPY From: "graeme bird" No sure this will work but some of the build pictures are on Facebook and can be accessed. I realise there is a library I could put them in but my upload is so slow. Maybe this might remind someone of the original builder? Williams I think it was, a syndicate of 4 in Kent. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.430143400714.225352.754055714&type=1&l=30714ff4c3 -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360933#360933 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:19 PM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: Spacere in Matco Brakes I am still not happy with the chatter in my tri gear brakes. I am going to disassemble them, clean them, and reassemble them. One of the things I wanted to do was confirm that the 4 spacers in each brake are the correct ones. In the diagram in the manual, there is no part number nor description other than "spacer." Does anyone know the specs for them or the part number so I can order them from the UK? The easiest thing would be to just order 8 more, but without a part number, I don't know what to ask for. Jim Puglise N283JL -- 12.2 hrs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.