---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/17/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:04 AM - Re: Fw: Inquiry (Bob Hitchcock) 2. 12:06 AM - Desktop Europa Models (Gerry Holland) 3. 12:34 AM - Re: Fw: Inquiry (Greg Fuchs) 4. 12:45 AM - Re: Flying Model of Europa (Paul & Vanessa Munford) 5. 05:39 AM - Re: SV: Oil tank breather catch bottle (Remi Guerner) 6. 05:46 AM - Re: Dynon AHAHRS question (h&jeuropa) 7. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: SV: Oil tank breather catch bottle (Trevpond@aol.com) 8. 07:37 AM - Re: Dynon AHAHRS question (AirEupora) 9. 08:02 AM - SV: Re: SV: Oil tank breather catch bottle (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen) 10. 09:09 PM - Video of N152MT flying (Martin Tuck) 11. 09:50 PM - Re: Video of N152MT flying (Rob Waters) 12. 09:52 PM - Re: Video of N152MT flying (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:57 AM PST US From: "Bob Hitchcock" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry Hi Greg Tried your ebay link Sadly it came up; "This listing () has been removed, or this item is not available." Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Fuchs " Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry > > > Bob, > > Ok, here is a little info: > > __________________ > This magnificent and Museum-Quality EAA Europa XS Private Airplane Wood > Model is finely handmade from kiln-dried Wood Mahogany and skillfully > hand-painted by gifted artists. > > It is 7.8" in Length, with 11" Wingspan, weighing 0.44 pounds, and a > package > weight of about 2.20 pounds. > > > The picture shown in this listing is part of a set of photos we are using > as > reference for the production of the models. Each model comes with a wooden > stand. > > This pre-sale model is Made-to-Order, which has a production period of 1 > month. Production will start upon receipt of confirmed order and payment. > Please buy only if you can wait for 1 month production and 2-3 weeks > shipping time from Manila, Philippines. Our warehouse inventory is fast > moving so we may have stocks for immediate shipment. if not, since we have > our own factory, we can make one for you in a month. > > The model plane will be packed in a strong carton box with protective > foam. > Shipping & Handling Worldwide is FREE. > > ____________________ > > > Check out the link: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-Europa-XS-Private-Wood-Model-Plane-Free-Shipping > -/120176298687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1bfb10cabf > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Harrison > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:26 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry > > --> > > Hi! Bill > The item below had no other details ......? > Merry Christmas to you and yours. > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Sisley > Sent: 16 December 2011 02:22 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:00 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Desktop Europa Models From: Gerry Holland I mentioned I had a desktop model of Europa Trigear and also had Mono built too. The guy who built mine is based in Angeles City, Luzon (Near the ex-USAF Clark Air Base). He can be contacted at arniecastro@ymail.com A website review of some of his production can be seen at http://angelescity.olx.com.ph/model-aircraft-iid-52348704 These Models are not perfect representations in my case. They were made from a single scale basic drawing and some photos. Tailplane and other areas certainly not Europa but these people would put that right if given all the information. Mine were a first try at a Europa and several years ago. The Factory is still there as I visited it in February. Might be worth making contact. Regards Gerry Gerry Holland gholland@content-stream.co.uk +44 (0)7808 402404 White Ox Mead, Bath. England ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:02 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry Different Bob, LOL Bob, The link still works. You just have to manually select and copy the entire link (from the original email) and paste it into a web browser address bar. For some reason, Matronics doesn't like long-winded text in its links, and the click-on link gets truncated, rendering it useless. Regards, GregF -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hitchcock Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry --> Hi Greg Tried your ebay link Sadly it came up; "This listing () has been removed, or this item is not available." Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Fuchs " Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry > > > Bob, > > Ok, here is a little info: > > __________________ > This magnificent and Museum-Quality EAA Europa XS Private Airplane Wood > Model is finely handmade from kiln-dried Wood Mahogany and skillfully > hand-painted by gifted artists. > > It is 7.8" in Length, with 11" Wingspan, weighing 0.44 pounds, and a > package > weight of about 2.20 pounds. > > > The picture shown in this listing is part of a set of photos we are using > as > reference for the production of the models. Each model comes with a wooden > stand. > > This pre-sale model is Made-to-Order, which has a production period of 1 > month. Production will start upon receipt of confirmed order and payment. > Please buy only if you can wait for 1 month production and 2-3 weeks > shipping time from Manila, Philippines. Our warehouse inventory is fast > moving so we may have stocks for immediate shipment. if not, since we have > our own factory, we can make one for you in a month. > > The model plane will be packed in a strong carton box with protective > foam. > Shipping & Handling Worldwide is FREE. > > ____________________ > > > Check out the link: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/EAA-Europa-XS-Private-Wood-Model-Plane-Free-Shipping > -/120176298687?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1bfb10cabf > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Harrison > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:26 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry > > --> > > Hi! Bill > The item below had no other details ......? > Merry Christmas to you and yours. > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Sisley > Sent: 16 December 2011 02:22 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Inquiry > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:04 AM PST US From: "Paul & Vanessa Munford" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flying Model of Europa Hi Gerry, Paul Munford from Cambridge (uk). Very interested in your flying model. Where are you & how much ?? Please contact me directly on pmdental@btinternet.com. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerry Holland To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:36 AM Subject: Europa-List: Flying Model of Europa Hi to all. As some interest was shown in Desktop type models of Europa, would anyone be interested in buying a Europa Flying Model I have and will most likely never start. It is one of the RC Homebuilts models produced by Cleve Lee a Europa Builder and details are as follows: Scale: 1= 5.30 Wingspan: 61 1=81=842=9D (1562 mm) Wing Area: 550 in2 (3549 dm2) Flying Weight: 6.8 =93 7.5 lbs (3.09 =93 3.41 kg) Wing Loading: 29 oz/ft2 Length: 44=9D (1118 mm) Radio: 5 Channels with 7 servos Engines: .40 - .51 cu in 2 Cycle .50 =93 .60 cu in 4 Cycle It is presently 'hangared' in Ashland, MA but could be sent anywhere. I'm in England BTW. If you are interested please PM me at gholland@content-stream.co.uk Picture from Build Manual attached. Regards Gerry Gerry Holland gholland@content-stream.co.uk +44 (0)7808 402404 White Ox Mead, Bath. England ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:30 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: SV: Oil tank breather catch bottle From: "Remi Guerner" Hi Svein, I agree that it is nice to install a device to prevent any oil vapor condensation from the breather to stain the bottom of your fuselage. However, in my opinion, the installation shown on your picture looks unsafe as there is very little section for the vapor to escape. The result can be a too high pressure build up in the oil tank and also in the crankcase with possible bad consequences: - what makes the oil returning from the crankcase to the tank is the blow-by which creates a pressure build-up inside the crankcase, pushing the oil out to the tank. If the oil tank is not appropriately vented to the atmosphere or if the vent is restricted significantly, then the differential pressure between the crankcase and the tank will be reduced, possibly leading to a reduced flow of oil back to the tank. In the worst case, you may end up with a full crankcase, an empty tank... and then a dead engine! - the increased pressure in the tank and the crankshaft may also cause the seals to blow out, leading to loosing all your oil in flight. I would suggest you increase the diameter of the venting hole of you bottle to about 8 mm which is the diameter of the venting hose recommanded by Rotax. Regards Remi Guerner F-PGKL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361091#361091 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:01 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Dynon AHAHRS question From: "h&jeuropa" Ian, We have GRT EFIS and located the magnetometer just aft of the D panel on a shelf we made at the fuselage part line. GRT recommends in the wing tip. We really wanted to have the magnetometer in the fuselage rather than in the wing since we have glider wings as well. This location has worked OK for us. We did have to shield the magnetometer (wrapped with aluminum foil) because of RF when transmitting and we have had instances where magnetic materials in the baggage bay affected it, so we watch where we load things now (our tie down stakes!). The mass balance weight does not affect the magnetometer in this location. We know of several Europas that have their magnetometer located overhead between the doors and it apparently works well there. Hope this helps. Jim & Heather N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361092#361092 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:39 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: SV: Oil tank breather catch bottle Hi Svein, Neville has a way of doing this, give him an email at: _neveyre@btinternet.com_ (mailto:neveyre@btinternet.com) and he will be delighted to let you have the information. regards Trev G-LINN In a message dated 17/12/2011 13:39:49 GMT Standard Time, air.guerner@orange.fr writes: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Remi Guerner" Hi Svein, I agree that it is nice to install a device to prevent any oil vapor condensation from the breather to stain the bottom of your fuselage. However, in my opinion, the installation shown on your picture looks unsafe as there is very little section for the vapor to escape. The result can be a too high pressure build up in the oil tank and also in the crankcase with possible bad consequences: - what makes the oil returning from the crankcase to the tank is the blow-by which creates a pressure build-up inside the crankcase, pushing the oil out to the tank. If the oil tank is not appropriately vented to the atmosphere or if the vent is restricted significantly, then the differential pressure between the crankcase and the tank will be reduced, possibly leading to a reduced flow of oil back to the tank. In the worst case, you may end up with a full crankcase, an empty tank... and then a dead engine! - the increased pressure in the tank and the crankshaft may also cause the seals to blow out, leading to loosing all your oil in flight. I would suggest you increase the diameter of the venting hole of you bottle to about 8 mm which is the diameter of the venting hose recommanded by Rotax. Regards Remi Guerner F-PGKL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361091#361091 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Dynon AHAHRS question From: "AirEupora" I have the MGL Gyros install in the over head between the two doors. I have air ducted into this area from the tail and have two grasper vents in the panel that covers this area. This is close to the center of gravity and has very little steel. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361096#361096 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:36 AM PST US From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: SV: Europa-List: Re: SV: Oil tank breather catch bottle Hi Remi, I appreciate your comments. There is some slack between the vent hose and the bottle opening, and there is also a hole drilled in the neck of the bottle that can be seen above the steel band in the photo (as you have noticed). The venting hole does not seem to be as large as 8 mm, however, so I will drill out to 8 mm and add two more holes around the neck. The fact that the engine has worked fine is no excuse for not having paid proper attention to this - thanks again for pointing it out. Regards, Svein LN-SKJ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:03 PM PST US From: Martin Tuck Subject: Europa-List: Video of N152MT flying Hi folks, I finally uploaded my first video to You Tube. What better than a video of me flying my Europa! http://youtu.be/pGOgD-odT4E Regards Martin Tuck N152MT Wichita, Kansas ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:34 PM PST US From: Rob Waters Subject: Re: Europa-List: Video of N152MT flying Excellent video Martin. Thanks for sharing :) On 18/12/2011, at 6:05 PM, Martin Tuck wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I finally uploaded my first video to You Tube. What better than a > video of me flying my Europa! > > http://youtu.be/pGOgD-odT4E > > Regards > Martin Tuck > N152MT > Wichita, Kansas > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:18 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Video of N152MT flying On Dec 17, 2011, at 9:05 PM, Martin Tuck wrote: > I finally uploaded my first video to You Tube. What better than a > video of me flying my Europa! Very nice Martin...I appreciate your post production efforts...and your paint job! 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