---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/19/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:20 AM - Re: Lost - Oil Tank Cap (Carl Pattinson) 2. 01:53 AM - Re: Forward Bulkhead (G-IANI) 3. 08:13 AM - Re : Lost - Oil Tank Cap (John Wigney) 4. 10:27 AM - Re: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) (Raimo Toivio) 5. 11:01 AM - Re: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) (Robert Borger) 6. 11:42 AM - Re: Forward Bulkhead (stephen vestuti) 7. 12:53 PM - Re: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) (Frans Veldman) 8. 12:58 PM - Re: Forward Bulkhead (Frans Veldman) 9. 04:14 PM - Garmin 795 and Sky Demon routes (John Wighton) 10. 07:32 PM - 2011 List of Contributors (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:16 AM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Lost - Oil Tank Cap Well, not as expensive as I had expected - about 20 (which is reasonable for Rotax). Might be an idea to attach a short chain to the cap to prevent a repetition. Thanks to those who responded. Regards, Carl -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson Sent: 18 December 2011 14:15 Subject: Europa-List: Lost - Oil Tank Cap --> Hi, Has anyone had the misfortune to lose the filler cap off their Rotax oil tank and if so what sort of damage ( wise) are we looking at. >From Rotax I am guessing there won't be a lot of change out of 50. I suspect it is probably a standard industrial component that can be sourced elsewhere at a reasonable price. The question is where. Does anyone have the filler spout / cap dimension - might be worth looking on ebay. Thanks, Carl Pattinson G-LABS PS: I DIDNT LOSE IT !!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey Sent: 14 December 2011 15:15 Subject: Europa-List: Re: AC powered fin strobe --> Thanks Frans and Jan, An additional wiring diagram shows the switch that by-passes the strobe box from the AC supply as 20 Amp, so there's a hefty current. I'll be putting the box as close to the rectifier as possible, and use the existing 22 AWG strobe wiring from the previous installation for connection to the strobe in the tail. There will be no point to running the AC strobe continuously, but mainly flying in the circuit, approach, on the apron, etc. Lets see what happens. Best Richard Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360910#360910 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:36 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Forward Bulkhead Steve Factory Newsletter No 24, Page 11. Copy attached Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of stephen vestuti Sent: 18 December 2011 22:12 Subject: Europa-List: Forward Bulkhead Ho, Ho, Ho to all builders and non builders ! If any one has the dimensions and position of the forward centre tunnel bulkhead for the trigear , could you post or email the details to me, Thanks, Steve. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361158#361158 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:32 AM PST US From: John Wigney Subject: Europa-List: Re : Lost - Oil Tank Cap Hi Carl, Sorry you lost your cap. I have done a small mod on my cap which prevents this problem. As you may have noted, if you check the oil level when the engine is hot, it is very easy to drop the cap into the cowl and it is a bit irritating to have to remove the top and bottom cowls off to retrieve it. To stop this happening again, I have pop riveted a small aluminium tab to the raised rib on the cap. This tab has a hole for a key ring loop and a nylon cord which is secured to the adjacent hose = no further problems. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ORIGINAL MESSAGE From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Europa-List: Lost - Oil Tank Cap Hi, Has anyone had the misfortune to lose the filler cap off their Rotax oil tank and if so what sort of damage ( wise) are we looking at. > From Rotax I am guessing there won't be a lot of change out of 50. I suspect it is probably a standard industrial component that can be sourced elsewhere at a reasonable price. The question is where. Does anyone have the filler spout / cap dimension - might be worth looking on ebay. Thanks, Carl Pattinson G-LABS PS: I DIDNT LOSE IT !!!! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:36 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) Some of you may remember this topic and The Contest =9CWhat is the jury=C2=B4s decision? All of you (who gave a guess or more) will get a little surprising shipment from Finland: just let me know your exact address info details direct to info@rwm.fi=9D I got in time only three addresses and so The Winners are: Trev Pond (G-LINN) from UK Karel Vranken (F-PKRL) from Belgium Tim Ward (ZK-TIM) with all his daughters from New Zealand Congratulations! What they will get? I am happy to say I have today made three equal shipments: all of them included no more or less than - an aviation style belt with an unic hologram engraving =9CEuropa Aircraft logo=9D with personal register # G-LINN, F-PKRL and ZK-TIM=9D (Karel will get Khaki coloured belt because that match well to his Europa painting scheme, Trev and Tim will get Marine Blue coloured belts because that colour is a vital part of their nationality) - an English version of the book =9CFinland for tourists=9D packed full of nice pictures from our country - a book =9CXenophobe=C2=B4s guide to The Finns=9D and - a sheet of very best available Finnish chocolate. I hope a safe arrival for these shipments. The rest of you =93 look at the attached photo - now it is a good time to start to envy! I would like to thank all of you for taking part to this topic and competition. It was interesting to see how many reasons there could be to get some Heavy In-flight Vibration. When (?) I have some spare time, I will make a complete list for possible reasons and share it to you. Season=C2=B4s Greetings! Now you all know Santa lives really in Finland! Cheers, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 Updated flight hours /landings: 258,15 /466 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi From: Raimo Toivio Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:55 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) All who like to know what was it *** One week ago on Sunday I looked, found and solved the source for vibration as follows: First I checked the overall appearance of the plane =93 good Then I took the prop for a closer check and drove the blades to their finest positions =93 all very exactly 17 degrees (measured from the tip end). Then I drove them to the coarsest position =93 all were again same and 29,5 degrees, Opened the cowlings =93 just normal inside. Took off all the sparking plugs =93 one until another were just great =93 colour like mild milk coffee... - until I took of the last (!) one: that was #3 (stbd side, rearmost) and lower one: it was sky blue (a colour like RAL 5015 or Pantone 2925C). It /they have been on service 57 hrs only. Attached a pic of it (it was not so easy to photo it to get a correct colour!). I replaced all the plugs for new. That was it. As I wrote earlier =93 My Europa was after service just great. *** My mistake: I did not try during the flight one week ago the magnetos A and B alone. I could not imagine that would be a solution for a smoother ride. You remember =93 one power selection and one rpm-selection only together was acceptable to continue the flight with a reasonable vibra only. *** How could loosing only one plug to make such a hard situation? My only guess is that it was detonation; below and over certain rpm=C2=B4s and map=C2=B4s the engine was very unhappy. Why so =93 I am sure someone of you can explain it. Certainly the plug has been very hot. *** I consulted a Finnish Rotax agent: during a last decade he remembered only another case loosing a spark plug from Rotax. That case the spark was only dead and no noticeable problems during the flight. His ten years are equal of well over 200.000 hrs of Rotax flight time (200 planes x 100 hrs /year x 10 year). *** Dear competitors: I got several answers. Some of them are a bit funny but all are valuable. Thanks for great inputs. All of you, also those privat answers. Only one of you guessed the right answer. That was Bob Yearly by writing as follows, that was a great list for all of us, thank you. Many things to check. Carbs: Check for a vacuum leak or a carb intake or carb to manifold leak. Especially since it seems to have just started and abates at low power setting. Check carb balance. Engine Electrics: First check ignition A and B separate. Second check plugs, check coil. (one bad coil really shakes also) Pull plugs and look for differences. Fuel : Check carb float bowls for dirt. Check fuel pressure regulator for 914 Finally your fuel pump delivery pressure. Exhaust: Check no exhaust failure. Look at the entire exhaust for soot, looseness or failures. Regards, Bud *** Problems: The Rules: one single guess per person, please. So, Bud is not a winner but that is not a problem for him I am sure. What is the jury=C2=B4s decision? All of you (who gave a guess or more) will get a little surprising shipment from Finland: just let me know your exact address info details direct to info@rwm.fi Also the daughters. Thanks, Terveisin, Raimo Toivio RWM-SYSTEMS "=C3=A4lyk=C3=A4st=C3=A4 informaatiotekniikkaa vuodesta 1980" 37500 Lemp=C3=A4=C3=A4l=C3=A4 FINLAND p. 03 - 3753 777 f. 03 - 3753 100 www.rwm.fi info@rwm.fi From: Bud Yerly Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 9:15 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle Many things to check. Carbs: Check for a vacuum leak or a carb intake or carb to manifold leak. Especially since it seems to have just started and abates at low power setting. Check carb balance. Engine Electrics: First check ignition A and B separate. Second check plugs, check coil. (one bad coil really shakes also) Pull plugs and look for differences. Fuel : Check carb float bowls for dirt. Check fuel pressure regulator for 914 Finally your fuel pump delivery pressure. Exhaust: Check no exhaust failure. Look at the entire exhaust for soot, looseness or failures. Regards, Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Raimo Toivio Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 3:44 PM Subject: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle All I have hope-so a nice riddle for you. Maybe all the answers are useful =93 let=C2=B4s collect them all: *** Yesterday I took off from a very remote /small /windy (90 degrees 12 knots and gusting MUCH) grass strip. Soon until well over the ground at altitude +500 feet with full power and 2nd fuel pump still on and gears up I felt suddenly let us say medium or more shake and vibration. My immediate reaction was to go around and land immediately but abandoned because wind was so furious and I felt I cannot do that (a succesful landing). I decided to try to fly to the next possible sensible airfield EFHV which was 10 minutes apart. Those minutes were long: I put my prob (Airmaster CS) to manual and drived it from fine to coarse, tried all the power settings and also a 2nd fuel filter. Finally I noticed that when prop was in a climb mode (in my case 5400 rpm /Rotax 912S) and MAP around 20 inches I got quite a comfortable flying mode and I headed straight home. My airspeed was w that selection about 110 knots but because of a strong headwind GS was only about 70 knots (wanted to be clearly over the ground at 3000 ft because it was well over sunset and totally dark, yesterday we got sunset around 1600 Zulutime and time was well over 1630 when flying). So, I pushed home one looooong hour. All the aerodynamics were well. I was a bit worried my engine will separate or so. When trying to push more pwr it was more vibra and when trying to pull less pwr same. I Followed a main highway and decided to land there if feeling so. Cars there with lights are almost like a lighted runway... Finally landing to the EFTP flawlesly. *** Today we had a FHGP (Family Hangar Grill Party). I tried to check my plane as well as I can. I found something. Very small evidence but something anyway. I tried to fix it and had a test run. I elected to go to fly =93 hey I am a test pilot who else =93 and She was better than ever! I managed to do 2 touches and goes when C172 did one with same runway. 140 knots during downwind makes me always happy. *** So =93 dear Ladies and Gentlemen =93 what was wrong? It would be nice and very life-useful to hear your opinions or guesses what was wrong. *** The Rules: one single guess per person, please. The Prize: The Best Guess will get a Very Special Xmas Present from Finland! *** I will let you know a solution after a week =93 be patient. Have a nice weekend and Cheers, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 Updated flight hours /landings: 258,3 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) From: Robert Borger Trev, Karel & Tim, You are lucky guys! Raimo, You are a grand fellow! Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Dec 19, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote: > Some of you > > may remember this topic and The Contest > > =93What is the jury=B4s decision? All of you (who gave a guess or more) will get a little surprising shipment from Finland: just let me know your exact address info details direct to info@rwm.fi=94 > > I got in time only three addresses and so The Winners are: > > Trev Pond (G-LINN) from UK > Karel Vranken (F-PKRL) from Belgium > Tim Ward (ZK-TIM) with all his daughters from New Zealand > > Congratulations! > > What they will get? > > I am happy to say I have today made three equal shipments: all of them included no more or less than > > - an aviation style belt with an unic hologram engraving =93Europa Aircraft logo=94 with personal register # G-LINN, F-PKRL and ZK-TIM=94 > (Karel will get Khaki coloured belt because that match well to his Europa painting scheme, Trev and Tim will get Marine Blue coloured belts because that colour is a vital part of their nationality) > > - an English version of the book =93Finland for tourists=94 packed full of nice pictures from our country > > - a book =93Xenophobe=B4s guide to The Finns=94 > > and > > - a sheet of very best available Finnish chocolate. > > I hope a safe arrival for these shipments. > > The rest of you ' look at the attached photo - now it is a good time to start to envy! > > I would like to thank all of you for taking part to this topic and competition. It was interesting to see how many reasons there could be to get some Heavy In-flight Vibration. When (?) I have some spare time, I will make a complete list for possible reasons and share it to you. > > Season=B4s Greetings! > > Now you all know Santa lives really in Finland! > > > Cheers, Raimo Toivio > > > Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 > > Updated flight hours /landings: 258,15 /466 > > 37500 Lempaala > FINLAND > > p +358-3-3753 777 > f +358-3-3753 100 > > toivio@fly.to > www.rwm.fi ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:54 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Forward Bulkhead From: "stephen vestuti" Ian, Thanks very much for taking the trouble to upload the drawing , it's spot on ! Thanks, Steve. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361214#361214 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:41 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle /The Solution /The Winner(s) On 12/19/2011 07:22 PM, Raimo Toivio wrote: > may remember this topic and The Contest > What is the jurys decision? All of you (who gave a guess or more) will > get a little surprising shipment from Finland: just let me know your > exact address info details direct to info@rwm.fi I remember the contest but I think I somehow missed the address part. Anyway, this is a nice idea. Thanks for cheering up the list! I intended to keep flying this winter but the weather didn't cooperate and the aircraft is already relocated to the far end of the barn with lots of pallets with stuff in front of it. Get to dig it out to make a nice winter flight one of these days. > The rest of you look at the attached photo - now it is a good time to > start to envy! Indeed! ;-) > I would like to thank all of you for taking part to this topic and > competition. It was interesting to see how many reasons there could be > to get some Heavy In-flight Vibration. When (?) I have some spare time, > I will make a complete list for possible reasons and share it to you. That would be a great idea! > Now you all know Santa lives really in Finland! In the Netherlands we have a rather unique tradition that we don't celebrate Santa but "Sinterklaas" who lives in Spain but visits our country by boat the three weeks before his birthday at december 5th, together with his black helpers, and disappers after december 5th. During his stay he and his helpers get down chimneys to put candy's in childrens shoes, and at december 5th he delivers a bag of presents to each house. Christmas is just, well, christmas. We traditionally don't give presents at christmas (although foreign influences tend to infiltrate slowly into our country and some people share presents at christmas these days). So, you can keep your Santa in Finland where he belongs. ;-) Cheers, Frans ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:20 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Forward Bulkhead On 12/19/2011 10:50 AM, G-IANI wrote: > Factory Newsletter No 24, Page 11. Hey, I think I missed this! I don't have it. Does this bulkhead serve any structural purpose? Should I retrofit this (or something similar)? Frans ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:09 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Garmin 795 and Sky Demon routes From: "John Wighton" This is a post to share the recent experiences with the Garmin 795 and to give guidance to any Europa flyers who may be considering the purchase of the device and using it in conjunction with Sky Demon planning software. My 795 was one of the first in the UK, it was used from Oct to Dec without too many issues. I had a temporary problem after copying .GPX files from my route planning software to the internal folder of the Garmin. Having both Sky Demon and PocketFMS gave me the opportunity to determine the optimal software to transfer routes to the 795. The following is a summary of things people should know: 1. Sky Demon (up to current release) generates .GPX routes that can make the Garmin 795 permanently lockup. 2. The lockups occur even of the route is transferred to the 795 via the Mapsource software Garmin can supply. 3. PocketFMS .FPL routes work OK on the 795, however, the ICAO database waypoints do not get interpretated properly by the 795. It is necessary to manually replace all ICAO waypoints with the ones in the Garmin if the data for that waypoint is to be used fully (freqs, runway info, etc). 4. 795 firmware used is 2.30, Garmin state that the Sky Demon route issues will be fixed in a later firmware update. 5. The breadcrumb logs of the 795 require careful management, it is easy for flights to get missed off the logs. 6. Sky Demon are working to produce a version of the routes that works fully with the 795. These issues have been replicated by a small number of users, Garmin are replacing the units affected. The conclusion is that the 795 has been released with a great set of features but there are some issues that need to be fixed before it becomes a unit l could wholehartedly recommend. -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361238#361238 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:22 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: 2011 List of Contributors Dear Listers, The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. 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