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1. 07:55 AM - Smart engine istalled in a EUROPA (uvtreith)
2. 12:08 PM - Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? (stephen vestuti)
3. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? (Robert Borger)
4. 02:05 PM - So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners (SteveD)
5. 05:39 PM - Re: So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners (Robert Borger)
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Subject: | Smart engine istalled in a EUROPA |
Hi Family,
Sorry for this delay but it takes some time to make the required info
ready
for you.
Please see attached pictures.
If you need more info, please feel free and contact me via the forum or
direct.
Have a nice and safe flying time ' always.
Best Regards,
Bruno Reith / Europa Aircraft Partner Germany
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Peter
Zutrauen
Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2012 13:28
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Re: AW: Europa-List: Smart
Silly Ipad's auto-spell-check :-(
Should have read:
"which destroys so many of the experimental reduction drives."
Cheers,
Pete
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
Looks like a nice concept and execution. I like their implementation of
the
reduction drive's centrifugal clutch which engages at around 1800 rpm -
likely avoiding the low rpm resonance peak which destroys so many of the
exponential reduction drives. Their manual is also quite detailed about
the
operating constraints for the turbo etc.
It was my understanding from my EAA colleges that when the prop/engine
combination goes into resonance (typically at low rpms) the power
dissipated
in the gearbox or any type of dissipating coupling (like the rubber one
in
the Viking) goes up exponentially. Wrt the Viking, i found Jan's
dismissal
of this typical characteristic a bit disconcerting.
Last year at osh, there was a high horsepower reduction unit on display
which also had a clutch. an elegant solution IMHO: simply avoid the
resonance instead of attempting to deal with it.
I wonder what the Europa installed weight was for smart installation?
Cheers,
Pete
a239
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "uvtreith" <uvtreith@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi Europa Family,
I have installed the smart engine in my Monowheel XS.
This engine is made by Mercedes-Brabus with Turbo.
The engine is electronically controlled by the so called smart-MIP
System.
More Info you will find - also in English - under: www.ecofly.de
<http://www.ecofly.de/> and www.schicke-electronic.de
<http://www.schicke-electronic.de/>
I paid complete with engine frame, all accessories (but used a water
cooler
from a Kawasaki 1200 and they changed the operating panel according to
my
drawing) and the smart-MIP system around 11.000 EUR.
When the engine is finished after about 2.000 operating hours, you just
get
a new smart/Mercedes engine for about 4.500 EUR (Ecofly will do the
change
for you-if you like).
Today we made some ground tests by -4=B0C and a static thrust test by
Warp
Drive setting on 14=B0 (best cruise). The max. engine rpm was 4.500, but
the
engine can do as maximum 5.800 rpm.
The static thrust test was measured by a digital spring scale and was
showing 145 kp, so now we will change the blade setting to 12=B0. Our
aim is
to get 180-200 kp.
More info later, if you like.
Best Regards,
Bruno Reith
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin
Kedward
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Januar 2012 21:11
An: Europa-List@matronics.com
Betreff: Europa-List: Smart
Hi Guys, What happened to the Smart car engine installation ?
Regards
Kevin
Sent from my iPhone
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Subject: | Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? |
Well I was just about to start uploading photos of my latest Europa build No.630,
I will now either create my own site or a better prospect is the Club site
hosting builders albums - thats if there are any anoraks out there who enjoy
like me looking at build and completed Europa pictures !
Steve.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365319#365319
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Subject: | Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? |
Steve,
Steve D. is working on transferring the site to a new server. Not a trivial operation.
I'm sure he'll have things back up at some point in the near future
and you'll be able to post at that time. I too have some pics to add to my albums.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:04 PM, stephen vestuti wrote:
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> Well I was just about to start uploading photos of my latest Europa build No.630,
> I will now either create my own site or a better prospect is the Club site
> hosting builders albums - thats if there are any anoraks out there who enjoy
> like me looking at build and completed Europa pictures !
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365319#365319
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Subject: | So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners |
Hi folks,
Sorry for the sudden loss of service and lack of communication. I got a message
from Jos that after his retirement he would be shutting down his server business.
I didn't have a time frame for the shutdown, so I needed to "freeze the site"
and update all the backups. I built a server here at home and confirmed that
the data was good. It is.
This all happened at a time when I was working twelve hour days.
The "So long and thanks for all the fish".... message was only supposed to be up
for the backup process and file confirmation, but 17gig took more time than
I thought. Better safe than sorry.
So EuropaOwners will go back up, and start looking for a new home.
Sorry for any inconvenience,
SteveD
In case you were wondering: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish is the fourth
book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy "trilogy" written by Douglas Adams.
Its title is the message left by the dolphins when they departed Planet Earth
just before it was demolished to make way for a hyperspace bypass.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365327#365327
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Subject: | Re: So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners |
Fellow Europaphiles,
Looks like the Europa Owners site is in the process of being restored. Access
is available again but there are still some holes to be filled in.
Many thanks to Steve D. for the work so far. I'm sure it won't be long till it's
100% back.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jan 31, 2012, at 4:02 PM, SteveD wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
> Sorry for the sudden loss of service and lack of communication. I got a message
from Jos that after his retirement he would be shutting down his server business.
I didn't have a time frame for the shutdown, so I needed to "freeze the
site" and update all the backups. I built a server here at home and confirmed
that the data was good. It is.
>
> This all happened at a time when I was working twelve hour days.
>
> The "So long and thanks for all the fish".... message was only supposed to be
up for the backup process and file confirmation, but 17gig took more time than
I thought. Better safe than sorry.
>
> So EuropaOwners will go back up, and start looking for a new home.
>
> Sorry for any inconvenience,
>
> SteveD
>
> In case you were wondering: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish is the fourth
book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy "trilogy" written by Douglas Adams.
Its title is the message left by the dolphins when they departed Planet Earth
just before it was demolished to make way for a hyperspace bypass.
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