---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/31/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:55 AM - Smart engine istalled in a EUROPA (uvtreith) 2. 12:08 PM - Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? (stephen vestuti) 3. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? (Robert Borger) 4. 02:05 PM - So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners (SteveD) 5. 05:39 PM - Re: So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:39 AM PST US From: "uvtreith" Subject: Europa-List: Smart engine istalled in a EUROPA Hi Family, Sorry for this delay but it takes some time to make the required info ready for you. Please see attached pictures. If you need more info, please feel free and contact me via the forum or direct. Have a nice and safe flying time ' always. Best Regards, Bruno Reith / Europa Aircraft Partner Germany _____ Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Peter Zutrauen Gesendet: Montag, 30. Januar 2012 13:28 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Re: AW: Europa-List: Smart Silly Ipad's auto-spell-check :-( Should have read: "which destroys so many of the experimental reduction drives." Cheers, Pete On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Pete wrote: Looks like a nice concept and execution. I like their implementation of the reduction drive's centrifugal clutch which engages at around 1800 rpm - likely avoiding the low rpm resonance peak which destroys so many of the exponential reduction drives. Their manual is also quite detailed about the operating constraints for the turbo etc. It was my understanding from my EAA colleges that when the prop/engine combination goes into resonance (typically at low rpms) the power dissipated in the gearbox or any type of dissipating coupling (like the rubber one in the Viking) goes up exponentially. Wrt the Viking, i found Jan's dismissal of this typical characteristic a bit disconcerting. Last year at osh, there was a high horsepower reduction unit on display which also had a clutch. an elegant solution IMHO: simply avoid the resonance instead of attempting to deal with it. I wonder what the Europa installed weight was for smart installation? Cheers, Pete a239 On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "uvtreith" wrote: Hi Europa Family, I have installed the smart engine in my Monowheel XS. This engine is made by Mercedes-Brabus with Turbo. The engine is electronically controlled by the so called smart-MIP System. More Info you will find - also in English - under: www.ecofly.de and www.schicke-electronic.de I paid complete with engine frame, all accessories (but used a water cooler from a Kawasaki 1200 and they changed the operating panel according to my drawing) and the smart-MIP system around 11.000 EUR. When the engine is finished after about 2.000 operating hours, you just get a new smart/Mercedes engine for about 4.500 EUR (Ecofly will do the change for you-if you like). Today we made some ground tests by -4=B0C and a static thrust test by Warp Drive setting on 14=B0 (best cruise). The max. engine rpm was 4.500, but the engine can do as maximum 5.800 rpm. The static thrust test was measured by a digital spring scale and was showing 145 kp, so now we will change the blade setting to 12=B0. Our aim is to get 180-200 kp. More info later, if you like. Best Regards, Bruno Reith -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Kevin Kedward Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Januar 2012 21:11 An: Europa-List@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: Smart Hi Guys, What happened to the Smart car engine installation ? Regards Kevin Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:12 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? From: "stephen vestuti" Well I was just about to start uploading photos of my latest Europa build No.630, I will now either create my own site or a better prospect is the Club site hosting builders albums - thats if there are any anoraks out there who enjoy like me looking at build and completed Europa pictures ! Steve. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365319#365319 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: EuropaOwners.Org Has Shut Down?? From: Robert Borger Steve, Steve D. is working on transferring the site to a new server. Not a trivial operation. I'm sure he'll have things back up at some point in the near future and you'll be able to post at that time. I too have some pics to add to my albums. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:04 PM, stephen vestuti wrote: > > Well I was just about to start uploading photos of my latest Europa build No.630, > I will now either create my own site or a better prospect is the Club site > hosting builders albums - thats if there are any anoraks out there who enjoy > like me looking at build and completed Europa pictures ! > > Steve. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365319#365319 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners From: "SteveD" Hi folks, Sorry for the sudden loss of service and lack of communication. I got a message from Jos that after his retirement he would be shutting down his server business. I didn't have a time frame for the shutdown, so I needed to "freeze the site" and update all the backups. I built a server here at home and confirmed that the data was good. It is. This all happened at a time when I was working twelve hour days. The "So long and thanks for all the fish".... message was only supposed to be up for the backup process and file confirmation, but 17gig took more time than I thought. Better safe than sorry. So EuropaOwners will go back up, and start looking for a new home. Sorry for any inconvenience, SteveD In case you were wondering: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish is the fourth book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy "trilogy" written by Douglas Adams. Its title is the message left by the dolphins when they departed Planet Earth just before it was demolished to make way for a hyperspace bypass. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=365327#365327 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: So Long and thanks for all the fish.... EuropaOwners From: Robert Borger Fellow Europaphiles, Looks like the Europa Owners site is in the process of being restored. Access is available again but there are still some holes to be filled in. Many thanks to Steve D. for the work so far. I'm sure it won't be long till it's 100% back. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jan 31, 2012, at 4:02 PM, SteveD wrote: > > Hi folks, > Sorry for the sudden loss of service and lack of communication. I got a message from Jos that after his retirement he would be shutting down his server business. I didn't have a time frame for the shutdown, so I needed to "freeze the site" and update all the backups. I built a server here at home and confirmed that the data was good. It is. > > This all happened at a time when I was working twelve hour days. > > The "So long and thanks for all the fish".... message was only supposed to be up for the backup process and file confirmation, but 17gig took more time than I thought. Better safe than sorry. > > So EuropaOwners will go back up, and start looking for a new home. > > Sorry for any inconvenience, > > SteveD > > In case you were wondering: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish is the fourth book of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy "trilogy" written by Douglas Adams. 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