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1. 12:50 AM - Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (Richard Lamprey)
2. 01:14 AM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (Tim Ward)
3. 02:09 AM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (craig)
4. 02:19 AM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (Kevin Challis)
5. 02:34 AM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=F8rensen?=)
6. 05:46 AM - EuropaOwners Move (SteveD)
7. 08:06 AM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (PHILLIPS I)
8. 01:17 PM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (Bob Harrison)
9. 03:23 PM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (Kingsley Hurst)
10. 06:08 PM - Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox (Robert Borger)
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| Subject: | Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Does anyone know the best way to get this plug out? I burred the hexagonal inset,
so hex key (allen key) no longer going to get it out. I have tried clonking
gently with hammer (as per various instructions) to loosen, to no avail.
My plug replacement is of the new variety that can be removed with a ring-spanner.
Just got to get the old out and check for filings.
Perhaps a left handed thread bolt/screw that self-taps into the burred inset??
Any ideas welcome.
Richard
Europa 168, Kenya
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| Subject: | Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Richard,
I had the same problem and got it out with a metal chisel and burred a slot to
force it anti clockwise with a hammer. Then replace it with a new type. Put some
anti seize compound on the thread.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 19/02/2012, at 9:49 PM, "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Does anyone know the best way to get this plug out? I burred the hexagonal inset,
so hex key (allen key) no longer going to get it out. I have tried clonking
gently with hammer (as per various instructions) to loosen, to no avail.
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> My plug replacement is of the new variety that can be removed with a ring-spanner.
Just got to get the old out and check for filings.
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> Perhaps a left handed thread bolt/screw that self-taps into the burred inset??
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> Any ideas welcome.
> Richard
> Europa 168, Kenya
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| Subject: | Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
You could use an Eazy_out. It requires you to drill a hole, Although, the
correct size easy_out may fit into the hole
Left from the allen key hole. You can normally buy a set of them for about
$20. Its like a left handed really coarse
Thread high tensile screw. Good quality easy-outs are tool steel, so they
will cut into the hole, to give a really
Good grip on the remnants of the bolt
Good luck
craig
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| Subject: | Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
I wouldn't use an easy out as the magnetic bit could fall off when you drill for
the easy out. A chisel and hammer to knock the plug round worked for mine.
Kevin
On 19 Feb 2012, at 10:08, "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au> wrote:
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> You could use an Eazy_out. It requires you to drill a hole, Although, the
> correct size easy_out may fit into the hole
> Left from the allen key hole. You can normally buy a set of them for about
> $20. Its like a left handed really coarse
> Thread high tensile screw. Good quality easy-outs are tool steel, so they
> will cut into the hole, to give a really
> Good grip on the remnants of the bolt
>
> Good luck
>
> craig
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| Subject: | Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Mine too ... :)
Gert
Den 19/02/2012 kl. 11.18 skrev Kevin Challis:
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> I wouldn't use an easy out as the magnetic bit could fall off when you drill
for the easy out. A chisel and hammer to knock the plug round worked for mine.
>
> Kevin
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> On 19 Feb 2012, at 10:08, "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au> wrote:
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>> You could use an Eazy_out. It requires you to drill a hole, Although, the
>> correct size easy_out may fit into the hole
>> Left from the allen key hole. You can normally buy a set of them for about
>> $20. Its like a left handed really coarse
>> Thread high tensile screw. Good quality easy-outs are tool steel, so they
>> will cut into the hole, to give a really
>> Good grip on the remnants of the bolt
>>
>> Good luck
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>> craig
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| Subject: | EuropaOwners Move |
Hello Folks,
EuropaOwners.org has completed it's move. First and foremost I would like to thank
Jos for his support of the site for so many years. While we were on his servers
we had unlimited space, unlimited use of available memory, and he would
install any software that made the site process images faster. He also provided
this service to the Europa community for free! If you ever tried pricing that
kind of product on the internet, you would find it rapidly becomes very, very
expensive.
So, Jos, Thank you. Best of health and good luck in your retirement.
Changes to the site:
I've removed the forum.
I've removed the parts database.
I'm running the gallery in it's native mode and will make it "look pretty" when
I get it running 100%
We are having some trouble processing Thumbnails and Scaling images and that is
being worked on.
I'd like to thank Ron P and Steve V and the others who are helping with troubleshooting
and identifying problems from the move.
All files from the old sites are available and nothing has been deleted. If you
had something stored in the forums or parts database, let me know and I'll make
it accessible.
Chat Later,
SteveD
EuropaOwners
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| Subject: | Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Before using the chisel method us some localised heat from a needle jet
butane gun, then a few sharp taps will see it out,
best wishes
ivor
2012/2/19 Gert Dalgaard S=F8rensen <stabelvej9@gmail.com>
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=F8rensen?= <stabelvej9@gmail.com>
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> Mine too ... :)
> Gert
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> Den 19/02/2012 kl. 11.18 skrev Kevin Challis:
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> kevinmarie@blueyonder.co.uk>
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> > I wouldn't use an easy out as the magnetic bit could fall off when you
> drill for the easy out. A chisel and hammer to knock the plug round worke
d
> for mine.
> >
> > Kevin
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> > On 19 Feb 2012, at 10:08, "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au> wrote:
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> >>
> >> You could use an Eazy_out. It requires you to drill a hole, Although,
> the
> >> correct size easy_out may fit into the hole
> >> Left from the allen key hole. You can normally buy a set of them for
> about
> >> $20. Its like a left handed really coarse
> >> Thread high tensile screw. Good quality easy-outs are tool steel, so
> they
> >> will cut into the hole, to give a really
> >> Good grip on the remnants of the bolt
> >>
> >> Good luck
> >>
> >> craig
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| Subject: | Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Hi! A heat gun (hot air only) worked for me then a good clout with a hammer
and a chisel on the outer diameter.
Regards
Bob Harrison.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey
Sent: 19 February 2012 08:50
Subject: Europa-List: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox
<lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
Does anyone know the best way to get this plug out? I burred the hexagonal
inset, so hex key (allen key) no longer going to get it out. I have tried
clonking gently with hammer (as per various instructions) to loosen, to no
avail.
My plug replacement is of the new variety that can be removed with a
ring-spanner. Just got to get the old out and check for filings.
Perhaps a left handed thread bolt/screw that self-taps into the burred
inset??
Any ideas welcome.
Richard
Europa 168, Kenya
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366581#366581
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| Subject: | Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Gentlemen,
When removing the magnetic plug, in addition to the heating, cooling and impacting
methods, it is important to use the correct tool.
Early engines had a 6 mm Allen fitting. Later engines have a #40 Torx fitting
requiring a #40 Torx socket. The latest engines of course now have the Hex headed
plug.
Look carefully because the Torx fitting looks very much like an Allen key one at
first sight.
Also, don't use a cheap Torx socket, a Snap-on one may prove to be cheap in the
long run!
Cheers
Kingsley from Oz - Enjoying my first real cross country trip in a 914 Mono. 800nm
from home at the moment but still in the same State! Truly is a great cross
country aircraft.
Sent from my iPhone
On 20/02/2012, at 7:16 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hi! A heat gun (hot air only) worked for me then a good clout with a hammer
> and a chisel on the outer diameter.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey
> Sent: 19 February 2012 08:50
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox
>
> <lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
>
> Does anyone know the best way to get this plug out? I burred the hexagonal
> inset, so hex key (allen key) no longer going to get it out. I have tried
> clonking gently with hammer (as per various instructions) to loosen, to no
> avail.
>
> My plug replacement is of the new variety that can be removed with a
> ring-spanner. Just got to get the old out and check for filings.
>
> Perhaps a left handed thread bolt/screw that self-taps into the burred
> inset??
>
> Any ideas welcome.
> Richard
> Europa 168, Kenya
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366581#366581
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| Subject: | Re: Removing magnetic plug from Rotax 912 gearbox |
Fellow Europaphiles,
Yes, heat gun, impact device or impact wrench and proper drive. I used a heat
gun, #40 Torx and impact device (all from Sears) to remove the magnetic plug from
my engine the first time. The impact device was a strange black thing with
a square 3/8" drive on one end and the other end was round to hammer upon.
Heated the block around the plug with the heat gun, put the Torx drive on the
impact device, made sure it was properly and firmly seated in the plug and then
whacked it a good one with a 2 lb hammer. The impact simultaneously applied
both an inward force and a loosening torque force. Took several good whacks
(take care not to crack the block) to get it loose enough to remove with a ratchet.
I have since acquired a nice little Makita cordless impact wrench that
I would use for the plug removal should it be necessary. Hopefully, by using
anti-sieze and proper torque upon last reinstallation, it will not be necessary
later this week when I begin the annual condition inspection.
If you have buggered up the hole in the plug such that your Torx or hex wrench
will no longer work, Sears has a set of removal tools with a strong left-hand
bite that do not require one to drill out the hole. They could possibly be used
to remove the plug. I have used them to remove other messed up screws that
I though would be impossible to get out.
I can provide pictures of these tools should you want to see what they actually
look like before you go searching for them.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Feb 19, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Kingsley Hurst wrote:
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> Gentlemen,
>
> When removing the magnetic plug, in addition to the heating, cooling and impacting
methods, it is important to use the correct tool.
>
> Early engines had a 6 mm Allen fitting. Later engines have a #40 Torx fitting
requiring a #40 Torx socket. The latest engines of course now have the Hex headed
plug.
>
> Look carefully because the Torx fitting looks very much like an Allen key one
at first sight.
>
> Also, don't use a cheap Torx socket, a Snap-on one may prove to be cheap in the
long run!
>
> Cheers
> Kingsley from Oz - Enjoying my first real cross country trip in a 914 Mono. 800nm
from home at the moment but still in the same State! Truly is a great cross
country aircraft.
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