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1. 03:51 AM - Re: Trailer Information (Richard Collings)
2. 06:59 AM - Re: Trailer Information (Carl Meek)
3. 07:29 AM - Re: landing gear frame geometry (Rowland Carson)
4. 08:11 AM - Re: landing gear frame geometry (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
5. 08:38 AM - trailer technical drawings (William Daniell)
6. 09:36 AM - Re: trailer technical drawings (flyingphil2)
7. 09:51 AM - Re: trailer technical drawings (G-IANI)
8. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: trailer technical drawings (William Daniell)
9. 02:47 PM - Friedrichshafen (PITT STEVEN)
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Information |
Hi Carl
I am very interested in your trailer I have almost finished my Europa
Tri-gear and need to move it to an airfield for taxi trials etc. Could
you contact me off line if you still have it, my email is
rcollings@talktalk.net and phone number is 01327260045
Regards Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Meek
To: david park
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Trailer Information
I've had so many people email and ask for trailer details it's easier
to post to everyone.
This particular trailer is now for sale as I've been lucky enough to
find hangarage, if anyone in the UK would like to buy it I'm looking for
=A34000. For everyone else, all plans and photos are attached.
You'll see that it was originally designed for a Jabiru, but it
actually fits the europa BETTER than the jabiru!!
----
This is a twin-axle fully enclosed aircraft trailer.
This trailer was custom built for me. It's pretty huge and will fit a
wide range of aircraft.
This is a true road legal and road going trailer. When I bought it I
towed it 250 miles with my BMW 325i.
Aircraft known to fit inside:
* Jabiru UL450 with the long fin
* Europa XS Trigear
Features:
* Corner jack points to lift the weight off the tyres and level it
* Tracks for the nosewheel
* Wing mounts inside
* Solar panel, leisure battery, electric winch
* Heavy duty jockey wheel (not currently fitted)
* Fold down rear door that doubles as a ramp
* A second ramp that doubles the length. Note that this was
originally hinged off the main ramp but it made it too heavy so I cut
the hinge.
This is currently in SUSSEX, Pickup Only - I can't deliver. Available
for viewing immediately and pickup around the end of April 2012.
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Information |
Hi Richard,
I'm afraid I sold it 2 days ago.
Regards,
-Carl.
From: Richard Collings <rcollings@talktalk.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer Information
Hi Carl
I am very interested in your trailer I have almost finished my Europa
Tri-gear and need to move it to an airfield for taxi trials etc. Could you
contact me off line if you still have it, my email is rcollings@talktalk.ne
t
and phone number is 01327260045
Regards Richard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Carl Meek <mailto:carlmeek@gmail.com>
>
> To: david park <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:50 PM
>
> Subject: Europa-List: Trailer Information
>
>
>
> I've had so many people email and ask for trailer details it's easier to
post
> to everyone.
>
>
>
> This particular trailer is now for sale as I've been lucky enough to find
> hangarage, if anyone in the UK would like to buy it I'm looking for =A34000
.
> For everyone else, all plans and photos are attached.
>
>
>
> You'll see that it was originally designed for a Jabiru, but it actually
fits
> the europa BETTER than the jabiru!!
>
>
>
> ----
>
>
>
>
> This is a twin-axle fully enclosed aircraft trailer.
>
>
>
> This trailer was custom built for me. It's pretty huge and will fit a w
ide
> range of aircraft.
>
>
>
> This is a true road legal and road going trailer. When I bought it I tow
ed it
> 250 miles with my BMW 325i.
>
>
>
> Aircraft known to fit inside:
>
> * Jabiru UL450 with the long fin
>
> * Europa XS Trigear
>
>
>
> Features:
>
>
>
> * Corner jack points to lift the weight off the tyres and level it
>
> * Tracks for the nosewheel
>
> * Wing mounts inside
>
> * Solar panel, leisure battery, electric winch
>
> * Heavy duty jockey wheel (not currently fitted)
>
> * Fold down rear door that doubles as a ramp
>
> * A second ramp that doubles the length. Note that this was originally
> hinged off the main ramp but it made it too heavy so I cut the hinge.
>
>
>
> This is currently in SUSSEX, Pickup Only - I can't deliver. Available f
or
> viewing immediately and pickup around the end of April 2012.
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear frame geometry |
On 18 Apr 2012, at 21:10, Neville Eyre wrote:
> Cut some 1/8''ply shims 1'' wide by about 10'' long, push the frame into the
tunnel and slip the shims behind the VERTICAL frame tubes. [ or tape them to the
aft of the tubes]
> Check that the lower U/C frame mounting tube is level with the spar pin bushes,
useing a straight edge / level set on the pins [slot the holes in the firewall
to achieve this] then kick / whack with a soft hammer the frame back so it
nips the two shims, that is where you drill / bolt it.
> The frame tube geometry is all over the place, ignore it, just get the lower
tube level and the two vertical tubes 1/8'' off the firewall
Neville - thanks for your very practical advice. It's a relief to know that minor
geometrical anomalies in the frames are nothing to worry about.
Intuitively, I feel the big fat tube where the U/C swinging arm pivots would be
an even better thing to have level thwartwise, and of course that tube may not
have finished up quite parallel to the bottom tube - I haven't tried to check
that yet.
Also, as the manual suggests with its reference to mounting temporarily the swinging
arm, that tube should be at right angles to the longitudinal axis of the
fuselage.
Thanks again for your help.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: landing gear frame geometry |
Hi Rowland
Since you are on the subject, before I installed my undercarriage
mounting frame I set up the undercarriage with swingarm outside the
aeroplane. It allows for very easy studying. I was shocked to find that
both of my stops were too long! One of the stops was at center and one
under center. It was a gear collapse waiting to happen. Good idea to
check and correct before you mount.
Have a look at the first album:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=86937
Be sure to click "no thumbnail" and either view or download
document.
Good Luck.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | trailer technical drawings |
On this subject has anyone got technical drawings which they can send me
so
I can get a trailer made here
thanks
Will
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Meek
Sent: 20 April, 2012 08:56
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer Information
Hi Richard,
I'm afraid I sold it 2 days ago.
Regards,
-Carl.
From: Richard Collings <rcollings@talktalk.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer Information
Hi Carl
I am very interested in your trailer I have almost finished my Europa
Tri-gear and need to move it to an airfield for taxi trials etc. Could
you
contact me off line if you still have it, my email is
rcollings@talktalk.net
and phone number is 01327260045
Regards Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Meek <mailto:carlmeek@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:50 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Trailer Information
I've had so many people email and ask for trailer details it's easier to
post to everyone.
This particular trailer is now for sale as I've been lucky enough to
find
hangarage, if anyone in the UK would like to buy it I'm looking for
=A34000.
For everyone else, all plans and photos are attached.
You'll see that it was originally designed for a Jabiru, but it actually
fits the europa BETTER than the jabiru!!
----
This is a twin-axle fully enclosed aircraft trailer.
This trailer was custom built for me. It's pretty huge and will fit a
wide
range of aircraft.
This is a true road legal and road going trailer. When I bought it I
towed
it 250 miles with my BMW 325i.
Aircraft known to fit inside:
* Jabiru UL450 with the long fin
* Europa XS Trigear
Features:
* Corner jack points to lift the weight off the tyres and level it
* Tracks for the nosewheel
* Wing mounts inside
* Solar panel, leisure battery, electric winch
* Heavy duty jockey wheel (not currently fitted)
* Fold down rear door that doubles as a ramp
* A second ramp that doubles the length. Note that this was originally
hinged off the main ramp but it made it too heavy so I cut the hinge.
This is currently in SUSSEX, Pickup Only - I can't deliver. Available
for
viewing immediately and pickup around the end of April 2012.
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| Subject: | Re: trailer technical drawings |
Not sure if your request was for a Tri-gear or Mono trailer but I don't have either.
If it was for a mono, I would also be interested in getting some drawings
for an open trailer.
Alternatively (and sorry to hijack this thread) has anyone got an open mono trailer
going spare that they may like to sell?
Thanks,
Phil
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371365#371365
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| Subject: | trailer technical drawings |
Will
If what you want is a closed Trigear trailer there is a PDF of the CAD
drawing for my trailer (G-IANI) on the new club web site.
Look under "flying your Europa", "Trailer" then click on "Trailer3" on the
page.
If this is what you want then I an happy to let you have the CAB file if it
is of any help.
The recently published plan of Carl Meek's trailer is misleading as the
wheels are in the wrong place to give acceptable tow hitch loads with the
aircraft in it.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: trailer technical drawings |
Mine's a tri...or will be I hope at some unspecified date in the future
will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyingphil2
Sent: 20 April, 2012 11:33
Subject: Europa-List: Re: trailer technical drawings
Not sure if your request was for a Tri-gear or Mono trailer but I don't have
either. If it was for a mono, I would also be interested in getting some
drawings for an open trailer.
Alternatively (and sorry to hijack this thread) has anyone got an open mono
trailer going spare that they may like to sell?
Thanks,
Phil
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=371365#371365
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Just a quick update to say that despite the weather a successful gathering
of Europa owners has taken place at Biberach in the last few days. Those
attending were Dave Bosomworth, Ian Cook and myself from the UK, Bill
Sisley from New Zealand, John Roedseth and partner from Luxembourg, Dirk
Oyen and Karel Vranken from the Belgium/French border. Of special mention
is Ivor Phillips who actually flew his Europa from Lydd to Biberach on
Thursday in what was unkind weather. One further Europa was seen at
Friedrichshafen PH-MJW so we did our best.
A further report will be sent for the Europa Flyer.
Regards
Steve Pitt
Chairman
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