---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/27/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:21 AM - Re: Fuel Return Line (Frans Veldman) 2. 05:04 AM - Re: Insurance (Bob Harrison) 3. 01:01 PM - Re: French Chateau Fly Out - CONFIRMATION NEEDED (m.j.gregory@talk21.com) 4. 04:05 PM - Re: starter battery - LiFePO4 (craig) 5. 07:37 PM - First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR (Steve Eberhart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:02 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Return Line On 04/27/2012 04:53 AM, klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com wrote: > If the return fuel enters the top of the tank (under a little pressure) and expands while falling to the level of fuel in the tank, Fuel is not compressible. However boiling temperature decreases with lower pressure. So if the fuel is hot, the free fall will promote evaporation of the fuel due to the sudden drop of pressure. So, the only way to release hot fuel properly is to release it below the fuel level. > This also does away with any need for a second fuel valve and it's weight and complexity in an emergency. Well, a one-way-valve is a low weight and low complexity solution. Fuel can only flow into the tank but never out of it. Even when you have the fuel return in the top of the tank, I would still advise a one-way valve. Fuel fumes also burn excepionally well, and of course it is always possible that you end up inverted. I recall the story of one Europa-flyer (I believe it was PH-ZZZ ) who had an emergency and ended up unharmed but inverted. The doors where of course blocked, and fuel started dripping on the trapped pilot. Luckily a fire was not started and he was rescued in time. So for this reason I don't want any port in the tank where fuel can escape. This includes the sight gauge. I have consequently scrapped the sight gauge. Frans ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:57 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Insurance Hi! Nigel Where do I find Lancaster please.? Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel henry Sent: 05 March 2012 09:45 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Insurance Lancaster keep canvasing me.... Worth a try Nigel > Subject: Europa-List: Insurance > From: martflynut@aol.com > Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2012 01:37:41 -0800 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > I am about to insure my Europa tri gear and was wondering who is offering the best rate for Europa aircraft in the UK? Any suggestions and prices are welcome. > Thanks. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367769#367769 > > > > > > >======== > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:12 PM PST US From: m.j.gregory@talk21.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: French Chateau Fly Out - CONFIRMATION NEEDED David,=0AI responded to your announcement of the Chateau trip immediately y ou made it - at the Committee meeting in Ian's house, if I remember correct ly - saying I would like to come in CG.- As I did this via the web, I did not have a copy of the message.=0ARegards, Mike=0A =0A=0A_________________ _______________=0A From: David Joyce =0ATo: euro pa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, 23 April 2012, 11:12=0ASubject: Euro pa-List: French Chateau Fly Out - CONFIRMATION NEEDED=0A =0A--> Europa-Lis t message posted by: "David Joyce" =0A=0AThe Fre nch Chateau Fly out is scheduled for 21-24 September. and has attracted a l ot of interest. Earlier this year I had a series of computer disasters and not only my old computer but also the brand new replacement blew up. In che cking through what I have salvaged of the replies expressing interest, I am concerned that some may have fallen down the hole in the ether that engulf ed my computers! Can I ask all of you who have previously expressed an inte rest to confirm to me now, preferably by sending- a copy of your original - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:05:34 PM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: starter battery - LiFePO4 Philip You mentioned the issues of weight and balance, for not using the LiFePo battery, assuming you had the battery in the rear As per most builds, was the option of another half kilo of ballast near the tail considered, if so and you opted not to proceed Could you explain why. Given the weight saving would still be about 6kg, it would seem worthwhile to pursue Craig ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:01 PM PST US From: Steve Eberhart Subject: Europa-List: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR Our EAA Chapter's Saturday Fly-ins, known as EAA 21 Club, were such a roaring success the past two years - We are going to do it again. We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and NATHANS FAMOUS Hot Dogs for all that fly in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday of each month. When: May 5, June 2, July 7, August 4, September 1, October 6, 2012 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time. Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we will be cooking the best Gourmet Burgers, Brats and Dogs this side of Sporty's. EAA 21 Club is expanding. 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