Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 02:14 AM - Tie bar recess (jglazener)
2. 03:47 AM - Re: Tie bar recess (craig)
3. 07:08 AM - Re : starter battery - LiFePO4 (NEEL Jean Philippe)
4. 08:02 AM - Re: Tie bar recess (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
5. 09:20 AM - Re: Re : starter battery - LiFePO4 (Frans Veldman)
6. 10:08 AM - Re : Re : starter battery - LiFePO4 (NEEL Jean Philippe)
Message 1
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
For some reason I have been supplied by Europa with a cockpit module which does
not have a recess in the rear tunnel for the tie bar. At the time Roger said
something about it being an older module, but I see pictures of others with much
older kits who do seem to have it. Its certainly not covered in the manual
I have and thats from 2006.
See http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=100054
Anyway, I am working through a list of things to do before I bond on the top, and
I want to get this squared away before then. ny good ideas on what I should
do? Can I just cut it out, or do I need to build up the underside somehow to
get to the same configuration as normally delivered from the factory? Could someone
also measure up the exact position and dimension of the recess for me?
Help appreciated!
Jeroen
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372127#372127
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Mine is one of the older ones, where you cut the slot yourself. It was a
straightforward process
Marking the centerline of the tie bar and then cutting the slot with a
hacksaw blade,
then sanding just enough to get the bar to line up correctly. Afterwards I
glassed under the bar
to create a pocket with the bar sitting in it. Filled that pocket with flox
and then glassed over the top
which captures the bar in the flox between the glass layups.
Regards craig
Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | starter battery - LiFePO4 |
Salut Klaus=0AJe viens de t'envoyer un article sur ce type de batterie. Con
trairement-=E0 la r=E9ponse d'un mec sur ce site--(frans weldman je c
rois) les LFP sont parfaitement adapt=E9es =E0 nos Rotax.Il faut seulement
un chargeur sp=E9cifique. Pour une Super B 5200 (900g) le meilleur prix en
France est de TTC 331.29 plus le transport.=0AJe vais regarder =E7a de tr
=E8s pr=E8s car je serais oblig=E9 de repasser ma batterie devant ce qui fi
nalement est beaucoup mieux.=0AAmiti=E9s=0AJP=0A-=0Ahttp://www.super-b.co
m/products/super-B-5200.html=0A=0A________________________________=0ADe-:
Klaus Dietrich <klaus.dietrich@me.com>=0A=C0-: Europa-List Digest Server
<europa-list@matronics.com> =0AEnvoy=E9 le : Jeudi 26 avril 2012 15h47=0AO
bjet-: Europa-List: starter battery - LiFePO4=0A=0A--> Europa-List messag
e posted by: Klaus Dietrich <klaus.dietrich@me.com>=0A=0AI'm just back from
the AERO in Friedrichshafen and besides the Rotax 912is, I was impressed b
y the new LiFePO4 starter batteries on offer; the weight of those new batte
ries are below 1kg and they should perform as well or better than the norma
l lead/GEL batteries which are 6-7kg!=0A=0ADoes anybody have actual live ex
perience with those new batteries in their Europa?=0ACould be a good way to
save some kilos;-)=0A=0Ahttp://www.shoraipower.com/=0Ahttp://www.a123syste
ms.com/=0Ahttp://www.accu-24.de/de/LiFePO4-Akkus=0Ahttp://shop.strato.de/ep
ages/61333079.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61333079/Categories/motorradbat
- - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
====
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Tie bar recess |
Hi Jeroen
Although my cockpit module did have the recess, if it did not it would
have not been too much more work to get the tie bar stuck in place.
Here's the procedure I used:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=86943
BTW even though Alan and I tried hard to get the holes drilled
perpendicular, they were not perfect. I used the self aligning cup
washers to rectify errors. You can follow what I did that didn't work
out as well as I had hoped and see what could have been done to do a
better job.
Ron Parigoris
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: starter battery - LiFePO4 |
On 04/30/2012 04:06 PM, NEEL Jean Philippe wrote:
> Je viens de t'envoyer un article sur ce type de batterie.
> Contrairement la rponse d'un mec sur ce site (frans weldman je
Hey! I see my name in this language encoded message!
Do you mind to translate this so other people on this list can read it
too? My native language is Dutch, but I wouldn't consider it polite to
revert to my native languate if I use this list to communicate with some
other Dutch members and name some participants in the process! (I can
read it though, thank to our Dutch education-system where we have to
learn three(!) foreign languages to graduate! Other members of this list
are not so fortunate though.)
> crois) les LFP sont parfaitement adaptes nos Rotax.
These batteries are NOT perfectly adapted to our Rotax's. The battery
doesn't care what the brand of the engine is. What matters though is
that the charger of the Rotax, like any other engine charger/alternator,
is designed for lead acid batteries, which require a constant voltage
and just take the amps needed to get a full charge.
One intriguing comment in the link you sent whas "Do not charge the
battery with more than 20 Amps as this will damage the battery." How
would you achieve this with a constant voltage charger like on our Rotax
engines???
Frans
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | starter battery - LiFePO4 |
Frans =0ASorry for that message wich would not be adressed to the Europa li
st.=0APlease accept my excuse for that trouble.=0AJean-philippe=0A=0A=0A___
_____________________________=0ADe-: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.n
l>=0A=C0-: europa-list@matronics.com =0AEnvoy=E9 le : Lundi 30 avril 2012
19h14=0AObjet-: Re: Re : Europa-List: starter battery - LiFePO4=0A=0A-->
Europa-List message posted by: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>=0A
=0AOn 04/30/2012 04:06 PM, NEEL Jean Philippe wrote:=0A=0A> Je viens de t'e
nvoyer un article sur ce type de batterie.=0A> Contrairement =E0 la r=E9pon
se d'un mec sur ce site- (frans weldman je=0A=0AHey! I see my name in thi
s language encoded message!=0ADo you mind to translate this so other people
on this list can read it=0Atoo? My native language is Dutch, but I wouldn'
t consider it polite to=0Arevert to my native languate if I use this list t
o communicate with some=0Aother Dutch members and name some participants in
the process! (I can=0Aread it though, thank to our Dutch education-system
where we have to=0Alearn three(!) foreign languages to graduate! Other memb
ers of this list=0Aare not so fortunate though.)=0A=0A> crois) les LFP sont
parfaitement adapt=E9es=E0 nos Rotax.=0A=0AThese batteries are NOT perfect
ly adapted to our Rotax's. The battery=0Adoesn't care what the brand of the
engine is. What matters though is=0Athat the charger of the Rotax, like an
y other engine charger/alternator,=0Ais designed for lead acid batteries, w
hich require a constant voltage=0Aand just take the amps needed to get a fu
ll charge.=0A=0AOne intriguing comment in the link you sent whas "Do not ch
arge the=0Abattery with more than 20 Amps as this will damage the battery."
How=0Awould you achieve this with a constant voltage charger like on our R
=======================
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|