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     1. 11:22 AM - Re: Tie bar recess (jglazener)
     2. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: Tie bar recess (Fred Klein)
     3. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: Tie bar recess (Gerry Holland)
     4. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: Tie bar recess (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
     5. 11:10 PM - Systems "go" for Elstree(EGTR) (Bob Harrison)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Tie bar recess | 
      
      
      Thanks for all your replies. If I understand it all correctly, there is no reason
      to cut the slot before the top goes on, which was my main concern. Better to
      do it later and with the tie bar to ensure best fit.
      
      Right, that means that tomorrow the top goes on! Fingers crossed...
      
      --------
      Jeroen
      
      http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372398#372398
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tie bar recess | 
      
      Jeroen,
      
      I may not be privy to all the other comments you've received; however,  
      as must have been apparent from the photos I sent you off-list, I cut  
      the tie bar recess AND installed the tie bar BEFORE bonding on the  
      top. This means of course that I set the wing incidence before bonding  
      on the top. I did so on purpose in order to avoid the awkwardness and  
      difficulty I imagined if I were to do this work after the bonding of  
      the top.
      
      I felt that I could change the order build because I had a great deal  
      of confidence that the support cradle for the lower fuselage was  
      keeping the fuselage aligned and true...I also clecoed the fuselage  
      top securely in place before setting the angle of incidence of the  
      wings. As I had hoped, everything remains aligned and true.
      
      Incidentally, by holding off until the last possible moment to bond on  
      the top, I found that I was able to accomplish A LOT of tasks relating  
      to wiring, antennas, etc. aft of the baggage bay and avoid the  
      challenges of limited access thru the "D" panel.
      
      just my 2 cents worth of experience,
      
      Fred
      
      
      On May 4, 2012, at 11:21 AM, jglazener wrote:
      
      >
      > Thanks for all your replies. If I understand it all correctly, there  
      > is no reason to cut the slot before the top goes on, which was my  
      > main concern. Better to do it later and with the tie bar to ensure  
      > best fit.
      >
      > Right, that means that tomorrow the top goes on! Fingers crossed...
      >
      > --------
      > Jeroen
      >
      > http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tie bar recess | 
      
      
      Jereon Hi!
      I did the same as Fred and for the same reasons. My bottom fuselage half was rigid
      in it's cradle. It all worked out well.
      Another option!
      Regards
      Gerry
      
      do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tie bar recess | 
      
      Jeoren- 
      
      Delay putting the top on as long as you can. Any work you can do before it is on
      is MUCH easier without it, including the tie bar. The instructions are very
      clear that you put the top on early but the practice in the US has been to delay
      it. As far as I know, it has never created a problem. Get as much done to the
      halves as you can before you bond them! 
      
      Jim Puglise 
      Europa 283JL 
      Punta Gorda, FL 
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "jglazener" <j.glazener@planet.nl> 
      Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 2:21:23 PM 
      Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tie bar recess 
      
      
      Thanks for all your replies. If I understand it all correctly, there is no reason
      to cut the slot before the top goes on, which was my main concern. Better to
      do it later and with the tie bar to ensure best fit. 
      
      Right, that means that tomorrow the top goes on! Fingers crossed... 
      
      -------- 
      Jeroen 
      
      http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165 
      
      
      Read this topic online here: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=372398#372398 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Systems "go" for Elstree(EGTR) | 
      
      Hi! Good morning happy campers!
      
      I'm all flight planned for my flight to Elstree this morning.
      
      HOWEVER IF YOU INTEND FILING /PARTICIPATING IN THE DAMNED OLYMPICS TRIAL
      PLANNING FRACUS DON'T EXPECT A FILE NUMBER RETURNED UNLESS YOU HAVE FILED
      ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH THE asi INITIATIVE and I'm not pissing about with
      that at this time of the morning.
      
      Swanick were very nice and helpful faxing me back an approved plan BUT IT'S
      WORTHLESS FROM THE POINT OF THE FLIGHT PLAN DAY !!
      
      How f-----------ing stupid are we?
      
      Regards to all
      
      >From Sunny Lincolnshire.
      
      Bob Harrison G-PTAG
      
      
 
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