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1. 04:28 AM - Re: Mono brake puck o ring size? (h&jeuropa)
2. 09:43 AM - Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (europapa)
3. 10:02 AM - Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (Karl Heindl)
4. 11:23 AM - Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (Pete Lawless)
5. 02:01 PM - Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (Robert Borger)
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Subject: | Re: Mono brake puck o ring size? |
Hi Kevin,
The Europa casting brake caliper is dimensionally the same as a Cleveland brake.
When we replaced our o ring the FBO had a Cleveland part in stock. Looking
at ACS, it appears to be a Cleveland 101-05200. Hope this helps.
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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Subject: | Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings |
Hello again,
after eight months of modifying my classic I am back in the air again.
My flight inspector said after he test flew the aircraft: "funny aircraft but be
careful with your payload, it is absolutely not overpowered!"
Well, I thought that impression you get when you are used to turboprops, like he
is.
But today it was me who made the same painful experience.
It is not so easy to realize the lack of with a CS prop but my europa now climbs
solo as before with passenger and it seams the have all shortened the runways.
After my last flight today I opened the cowling after half an hour on ground and
even the top of the carbs have been that hot you could not leave your hand on
them.
Now it is clear for me: I need a stopcock to use the hot water only when needed.
But I wonder if it is only the heat that is responsible for the lack of power
or also the longer suction tube ( don't know the right English term).
Has anybody made similar experiences.
Tomorrow I have my test flight with the flight instructor but I will not let him
in before I have got it fixed.
Thank you
Juergen
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Subject: | Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings |
the first thing I would do is to eliminate the carb heat=2C simply by putti
ng a clamp on the hose leading to the carbs. But I don't think it will make
any difference=2C the carburetor heat should not make a noticeable differe
nce.You are right about the stopcock=2C I hardly ever use carb heat.If ther
e is a loss of power or thrust=2C it will be for a different reason.
Karl
> Subject: Europa-List: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings
> From: experimental@online.de
> Date: Sun=2C 20 May 2012 09:42:30 -0700
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hello again=2C
>
> after eight months of modifying my classic I am back in the air again.
> My flight inspector said after he test flew the aircraft: "funny aircraft
but be careful with your payload=2C it is absolutely not overpowered!"
> Well=2C I thought that impression you get when you are used to turboprops
=2C like he is.
> But today it was me who made the same painful experience.
> It is not so easy to realize the lack of with a CS prop but my europa now
climbs solo as before with passenger and it seams the have all shortened t
he runways.
> After my last flight today I opened the cowling after half an hour on gro
und and even the top of the carbs have been that hot you could not leave yo
ur hand on them.
> Now it is clear for me: I need a stopcock to use the hot water only when
needed.
> But I wonder if it is only the heat that is responsible for the lack of p
ower
> or also the longer suction tube ( don't know the right English term).
> Has anybody made similar experiences.
> Tomorrow I have my test flight with the flight instructor but I will not
let him in before I have got it fixed.
>
> Thank you
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373406#373406
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Subject: | Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings |
Hi Juergen
I leave my carb body water heaters on permanently. In fact I cannot turn
them off as I did not fit a tap. Makes no difference to the performance in
any weather + I don't need to remember to turn them on. Mine are the thick
gasket type as supplied by Rotax agent in the UK.
Regards
Pete
Classic 912ul with NSI variable pitch prop.
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Subject: Europa-List: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings
Hello again,
after eight months of modifying my classic I am back in the air again.
My flight inspector said after he test flew the aircraft: "funny aircraft
but be careful with your payload, it is absolutely not overpowered!"
Well, I thought that impression you get when you are used to turboprops,
like he is.
But today it was me who made the same painful experience.
It is not so easy to realize the lack of with a CS prop but my europa now
climbs solo as before with passenger and it seams the have all shortened the
runways.
After my last flight today I opened the cowling after half an hour on ground
and even the top of the carbs have been that hot you could not leave your
hand on them.
Now it is clear for me: I need a stopcock to use the hot water only when
needed.
But I wonder if it is only the heat that is responsible for the lack of
power
or also the longer suction tube ( don't know the right English term).
Has anybody made similar experiences.
Tomorrow I have my test flight with the flight instructor but I will not let
him in before I have got it fixed.
Thank you
Juergen
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Subject: | Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings |
Juergen,
I understand what you are going through. My Europa has been down for a year for
extensive modifications and putting it back in flying condition has been a trial.
What engine and propeller are you using? Is your prop adjustable? what is the
static RPM and Manifold Pressure at full throttle?
I'm not sure what you mean by "suction tube." Can you go to the engine parts manual
and get a name or part number?
Sounds like you are correct in not wanting to fly with the instructor until you
have the power issue corrected.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On May 20, 2012, at 11:42 AM, europapa wrote:
Hello again,
after eight months of modifying my classic I am back in the air again.
My flight inspector said after he test flew the aircraft: "funny aircraft but be
careful with your payload, it is absolutely not overpowered!"
Well, I thought that impression you get when you are used to turboprops, like he
is.
But today it was me who made the same painful experience.
It is not so easy to realize the lack of with a CS prop but my europa now climbs
solo as before with passenger and it seams the have all shortened the runways.
After my last flight today I opened the cowling after half an hour on ground and
even the top of the carbs have been that hot you could not leave your hand on
them.
Now it is clear for me: I need a stopcock to use the hot water only when needed.
But I wonder if it is only the heat that is responsible for the lack of power
or also the longer suction tube ( don't know the right English term).
Has anybody made similar experiences.
Tomorrow I have my test flight with the flight instructor but I will not let him
in before I have got it fixed.
Thank you
Juergen
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