---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/29/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:25 AM - Re: Flight Test Cards (AirEupora) 2. 07:26 AM - Re: Flight Test Cards (AirEupora) 3. 07:27 AM - Re: GA propellers (tennant) 4. 08:34 AM - Kyle please send again! (Robert Borger) 5. 01:42 PM - Re: Fuel Return Line (Raimo Toivio) 6. 02:00 PM - Re: ipad mount (Raimo Toivio) 7. 03:08 PM - Europa flaps design (Frans Veldman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:36 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight Test Cards From: "AirEupora" Thanks Jim; I received the Airworthiness Certificate on Friday and have a couple of thing to fix and needed parts. Being Friday and the holiday yesterday I should have the parts today. Hopefully, I'll have them installed tomorrow and fly on Thursday. You are right about the Jabiru heating. On the ground the temps get to 302 pretty fast. I have the Whirlwind ground adjustable prop installed. Four inch circles for intakes and a lip on the lower cowling like John Lawton's plane. I didn't use the Rotex designed stainless Steel firewall. Mine is fully open so I'll hopeful of not having to many problems with heat once airborne. I'll cross my fingers on that one. I have been told that the temps will go down after 15 hours. If I can't fly on Thursday I'll have to wait until I return from Tejas over the weekend. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374169#374169 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:45 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight Test Cards From: "AirEupora" I did and static full power run and got 2940 rpm. this was with the tail tied down and the nose wheel off the ground to find where the unusable fuel level was. Is this about right? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374170#374170 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:51 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: GA propellers From: "tennant" Hi Fred, Thats 18.1 Ft/Lbs No problem. Do not lubricate the threads as this can falsify the stress put on the bolt. Best regards Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374171#374171 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:06 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Kyle please send again! From: Robert Borger Kyle, I fat-fingered your e-mail on my iPhone and deleted it by mistake. Please resend! Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:22 PM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Return Line MessageAll, there has been talkings about the case =9Cis it possible to operate with only one fuel transducer when there is a fuel return line=9D. It is. Look at the attachment =93 this set up does it well! Cheers, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 Updated flight hours /landings: 267,4 /474 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi From: Duncan & Ami Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:14 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Return Line The LAA was averse to the idea of discharging the fuel return to the bottom of the tank on the basis that, if fuel lines firewall-forward were ruptured in an accident or engine fire, then there would be the possibility of fuel siphoning from the tank via the fuel return line, This makes sense, although mitigation of that possibility could be to place the vent line restrictor behind the firewall. Or arrange for the addition of a non-return valve at the same location. Duncan McF. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio Sent: 26 April 2012 19:11 To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Return Line All, We have a fuel selector valve in fuel line. We try to remember to close it before a possible emergency landing. Some pilots close it always when not flying and some people close it only during a long storage time. There is also a fuel return line. That is connected to the tank bottom (starboard side /reserve side) if built as per a BM (issue 6, page 6-3). I have two guestions: 1) would it be wise to have a 2nd fuel valve in a fuel return line also to get an ability to close it or one-way-valve in the case of emergency? 2) why this line is connected to the fuel outlet which locates in the bottom of the tank? Why not to the upper corner of the (reserve side) tank? BTW: During this winter I changed all the rubber parts under the cowling (oh boy there are really many of them!). I noticed the fuel restrictor (FS02) was totally blocked. It was quite hard to open it. I assume it has maybe been blocked since almost new because I had during those days (2007) an issue with a fuel contamination and suffered a scary engine stoppage because of a totally blocked filter during a flight # 7. It was good to have a 2nd filter and way to use it by selecting =9CRES=9D. So, I have noticed no problems to use my engine with return line which is off-line. There are also many Rotax aplications with no plans for return lines in use. What is a main reason we should have a fuel return line? To get more fresh cool fuel or what? Cheers, Raimo OH-XRT Finland href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:32 PM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: ipad mount Hi Paul, I managed to sit on the pilot=B4s seat, so far. And saw more than expected. Cheers, Raimo PS: we have a little Europa Fly-in (Europa Aircraft Nordic) here in Finland next weekend. Are you going to participate? At least one American Europa Operator will do!!! Everybody who flies Europa is welcome. Just contact me! Location EFJM, 1-3.6.2012. From: Paul McAllister Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: ipad mount Hi Raimo, I took a look at your photograph and it looks very nice. I do have one question though, where do you sit? :) Cheers, Paul On Tuesday, May 15, 2012, Raimo Toivio wrote: Hi Richard, how about this? The camera was aproximately there where is my my head when flying. The Master ASI is well visible but a skid/ball and panel=B4s lower port corner not (there are some fuses, switches and a key), In the other hand IPad=B4s mount is easily adjustable so I can turn it 90 degrees if I wanna see whole panel (but then IPad is not visible). Notice: this configuration with also a new TruTrak=B4s Gemini ADI with TCW`s IBBS and Garmin=B4s 35HVS and FDS=B4s FC-10 fuel comp with GPS and only ONE fuel transducer has not been in the air yet but tomorrow it will. Wish me luck. Cheers, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 Updated flight hours /landings: 258,15 /466 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:04 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Europa-List: Europa flaps design Dear Ivan, Being the builder of the PH-DIY (XS Tri-gear) I have always wondered about the design of the outer flap hinges. It is my impression that the "double" hinge construction of the outer flap hinges is a left over of the mono wheel design where these flap hinges have to support the out riggers. For the tri gear it looks like this construction has been left "as is" (but without the outriggers of course) to avoid recertification issues. If my impression, that the load on the outer flap hinge is not different than the load on the inner of middle flap hinge, is incorrect, I would love to hear more about this. Reason is that I want to understand the design of my beloved Europa aircraft. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge about this. 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