---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/09/12: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:49 AM - Re: Contact detail & Help (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 2. 06:50 AM - N120EJ first flight (AirEupora) 3. 07:18 AM - Re: N120EJ first flight (Fred Klein) 4. 03:44 PM - Re: N120EJ first flight (craig) 5. 04:30 PM - Re: N120EJ first flight (William Daniell) 6. 08:05 PM - Rivet tail interference inside CS05 torque tube (Andrew Sarangan) 7. 09:22 PM - Re: Re: Contact detail & Help (Bud Yerly) 8. 11:48 PM - Re: Rivet tail interference inside CS05 torque tube (craig) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:25 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Europa-List: Re: Contact detail & Help Ken=0Athe two people I know who've done most research on the cooling of Eur opas, with some success, are-=0APaulMcAllister ;FransVeldman ;=0ABoth have the XS installation, not Classic.=0ALink to the forum is -;=0AGraha m=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "ken@ardenrich.co.uk" < ken@ardenrich.co.uk>=0ATo: GRAHAM SINGLETON =0ASent: Saturday, 9 June 2012, 10:01=0ASubject: Contact detail & Help=0A =0A=0A =0AGraham,=0A-=0AThe Canadian contact details;=0A-=0Aseth.g.lon don@ca.pwc.com=0A=0AHave you-any chapter on verse or can could =0Apoint m e in the right direction-where to look-for-the best on a/c =0Aengine cooling-cowl design principles.=0A-=0AAlso if poss could you send me the link over to get =0Aback on to the Europa Forum please=0A-=0AAll would be much appreciated,=0A-=0AKen ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:05 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight From: "AirEupora" Yesterday morning I took N120EJ for the first time into the air! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375112#375112 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/first_flight_in_the_air_961.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:37 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight > > > > Yesterday morning I took N120EJ for the first time into the air! Hearty Congratulations Rick!!...but please, do tell us more!!! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:28 PM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight Congrats, but we need pics, everyone loves to see pics of your baby craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirEupora Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight Yesterday morning I took N120EJ for the first time into the air! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375112#375112 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/first_flight_in_the_air_961.jpg ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight From: "William Daniell" Yes I would like to see pics too Well done! -----Original Message----- From: craig Sender: "owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com" Subject: RE: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight Congrats, but we need pics, everyone loves to see pics of your baby craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirEupora Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: N120EJ first flight Yesterday morning I took N120EJ for the first time into the air! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375112#375112 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/first_flight_in_the_air_961.jpg ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:37 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Europa-List: Rivet tail interference inside CS05 torque tube I apologize if this question has been asked before. While assembling the CS13 pitch rod inside the CS05 aileron torque tube, I noticed the tails of the rivets stick out quite a bit into the aileron torque tube. It also seems to me that the pitch rod motion is not exactly coaxial with the torque tube. So I am concerned if the rivet tails may interfere with this motion. The clearance between the rivet tails and the CS13 does not seem like a whole lot, and it is difficult to assess this clearance until everything is assembled. But by that time it would be difficult to reposition the rivets. I am wondering if there is such as thing as short tail rivets, which may be useful in this application. Any advice on this topic would be appreciated! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:56 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Contact detail & Help Ken and Graham, I've attached my modifications and techniques briefing used for Europa Cooling with the XS cowl which written up in the Europa Flyer . If I do say so myself, I never have cooling issues in Florida at 95 degree summer days using 50/50 Anitifreeze. Judging by the calls and email success stories, these simple techniques work pretty much world wide. References for further study are at the end of the document. Those who have followed these techniques with a stock cowl have no problems cooling especially with the trigear. In fact it gets a bit too cool in cooler climates and this is with no modifications to the existing cowl, only treating the airflow around the coolers. I have worked these issues over the last six years and we just finished three more aircraft at the shop, all Rotax and we reworked a clients Jab 3300, and all the Rotax's have no cooling issues and the Jab is tolerable except taxi times must be short, 10 or 15 minutes max or it gets a bit too hot for a takeoff on a summer day. I'll do another briefing/article on the Jabiru before long. Call or email me at the office in Florida below if you have need of more specifics or are having problems getting the references on line. Regards, Bud Yerly Europa Tech Support US Europa Dealer Custom Flight Creations, Inc. www.customflightcreations.com (813) 653-4989 ----- Original Message ----- From: GRAHAM SINGLETON To: ken@ardenrich.co.uk ; europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 6:48 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Contact detail & Help Ken the two people I know who've done most research on the cooling of Europas, with some success, are PaulMcAllister >; FransVeldman >; Both have the XS installation, not Classic. Link to the forum is >; Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: "ken@ardenrich.co.uk" > To: GRAHAM SINGLETON > Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2012, 10:01 Subject: Contact detail & Help Graham, The Canadian contact details; seth.g.london@ca.pwc.com Have you any chapter on verse or can could point me in the right direction where to look for the best on a/c engine cooling-cowl design principles. Also if poss could you send me the link over to get back on to the Europa Forum please All would be much appreciated, Ken http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:01 PM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rivet tail interference inside CS05 torque tube I used the rivets as per the manual TLPD 424 BS to go through the CS7 into the CS5 tube and had no problems With clearance of the push rod, as the rivets are on the sides allowing the full tube height for the push rod ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.