---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/13/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:49 AM - Re: Re: Europa Club Annual General Meeting (Alasdair Milne) 2. 02:35 AM - Re: Re: Contact detail & Help (nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk) 3. 03:22 AM - Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (europapa) 4. 03:51 AM - Re: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (Pete Lawless) 5. 04:15 AM - Re: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (Peter Zutrauen) 6. 04:42 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Europa-List=3A_Re=3A_Lack_of_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?power_with_water_heated_carb_body_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mountings? (Carl Pattinson) 7. 10:51 AM - Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings (tennant) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:09 AM PST US From: "Alasdair Milne" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa Club Annual General Meeting Great to hear from you, apology noted and look forward to seeing you later in the year. Alasdair -----Original Message----- From: Remi Guerner Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:17 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Club Annual General Meeting Hi Alasdair, Sorry I will not be able to attend, as I am organizing a Fly-In here in Gap the very same Saturday. This date was retained a long time ago, long before the Popham Europa Fly-In was announced. I will miss it. Anyway I am planning to attend the LAA rally in September. Regards Remi F-PGKL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375374#375374 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:48 AM PST US From: "nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Contact detail & Help Hi Fred, Kevin, Bob and Max, Thank you all for your kind words, worth all the more coming from people whose opinions I respect and appreciate. Fred, I've answered your questions below. Nigel On 13/06/2012 01:36, Fred Klein wrote: > > > On Jun 12, 2012, at 5:02 AM, nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk wrote: > >> It would seem that I have spent the last God knows how many years >> researching the same data as you (mostly 1940's and 50's NACA papers) >> and come up with much the same conclusions regarding cooling and >> cooling drag reduction. By a curious coincidence, I have been busy >> this weekend buried in my workshop - laminating. > > Nigel...do you Brits still shout "Huzzah? Not as much as we used to Fred. There's not a lot of call for it at the moment, though I did startle the neighbours with a hearty "Yeeeee Ha" when it popped out of the mould without sticking. > > What outstanding work...absolutely superb...I can appreciate your many > talents, dedication, hard work, and the HOURS you've devoted to this > beauty. Here, here!! Thanks. > Two questions: > > - weight: ? Top Cowl = 2139g Bottom cowl = 2856g Spinner = 545g > - distance from front face of cowl (not including spinner) to edge of > cowl which overlaps the firewall? 850mm or about 33.5 of Her Majesty's finest inches into the "Joggle" (should be the same as an XS). The real trick was making a short and dumpy cowl look long and sleek. On 12/06/2012 14:22, Max Cointe wrote: > > Assuming there is few hundreds of Europa flying word wide, I thing you > have a market for it. > > Otherwise, will you loan the mold or at least share the way to build it? > Max, The cowling is only part of a programme of extensive "face-lift" mods for the Europa, so until I have finished mine and tested it and had it approved, I do not really want to sell on copies. I would however be happy to give any hints or tips on how to create "plugs" and moulds to allow you to create your own in a typical home environment (I.e. without full composite factory facilities). If interested, contact me off-list. Nigel ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:43 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings From: "europapa" So, now I am happy again. I solved all the problems posted above. The engine runs good and I will leave the water tubes to the carb heaters open all the time. At lower rpm ( 4500-4800 ) there is still to much vibration for my taste but since I did not fly any other Europa I can not tell if this is normal or not. The propeller is set to zero by the factory but occasionally I want to let it balance dynamically. Thank you all very much for your great support. Happy flying ( when weather gets better finally) Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375491#375491 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:26 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings Hi Juergen Glad you are sorted. Mark Burton sells a very good dynamic prop balancer. I have one of his early models. http://www.smartavionics.com/ Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of europapa Sent: 13 June 2012 11:22 Subject: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings So, now I am happy again. I solved all the problems posted above. The engine runs good and I will leave the water tubes to the carb heaters open all the time. At lower rpm ( 4500-4800 ) there is still to much vibration for my taste but since I did not fly any other Europa I can not tell if this is normal or not. The propeller is set to zero by the factory but occasionally I want to let it balance dynamically. Thank you all very much for your great support. Happy flying ( when weather gets better finally) Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375491#375491 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:15:16 AM PST US From: Peter Zutrauen Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings Hi Pete, Mark's site states that the very nice looking PB-3 balancer is not available for sale. Would you have any info as to when Mark will start selling it? Many thanks, Pete Z (Ottawa, Canada) A239 (still a pile of parts) On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Pete Lawless wrote: > > Hi Juergen > > Glad you are sorted. > > Mark Burton sells a very good dynamic prop balancer. I have one of his > early models. > > http://www.smartavionics.com/ > > Regards > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of europapa > Sent: 13 June 2012 11:22 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body > mountings > > > So, now I am happy again. > > I solved all the problems posted above. > The engine runs good and I will leave the water tubes to the carb heaters > open all the time. > At lower rpm ( 4500-4800 ) there is still to much vibration for my taste > but > since I did not fly any other Europa I can not tell if this is normal or > not. > The propeller is set to zero by the factory but occasionally I want to let > it balance dynamically. > Thank you all very much for your great support. > Happy flying ( when weather gets better finally) > > Juergen > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375491#375491 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:35 AM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Europa-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Europa-List=3A_Re=3A_Lack_of_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?power_with_water_heated_carb_body_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mountings? X-mailer: iolo System Shield 10.7.6.60 Hi Guys, Mark has been selling the PB3 for a year or so - I purchased one last May (2011). Very good it is too - confirmed that my Woodcomp prop didn't need balancing !!! Expensive reassurance but then you can't put a price on peace of mind. Cheers, From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Zutrauen Sent: 13 June 2012 12:14 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings Hi Pete, Mark's site states that the very nice looking PB-3 balancer is not available for sale. Would you have any info as to when Mark will start selling it? Many thanks, Pete Z (Ottawa, Canada) A239 (still a pile of parts) On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Pete Lawless wrote: Hi Juergen Glad you are sorted. Mark Burton sells a very good dynamic prop balancer. I have one of his early models. http://www.smartavionics.com/ Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of europapa Sent: 13 June 2012 11:22 Subject: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings So, now I am happy again. I solved all the problems posted above. The engine runs good and I will leave the water tubes to the carb heaters open all the time. At lower rpm ( 4500-4800 ) there is still to much vibration for my taste but since I did not fly any other Europa I can not tell if this is normal or not. The propeller is set to zero by the factory but occasionally I want to let it balance dynamically. Thank you all very much for your great support. Happy flying ( when weather gets better finally) Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375491#375491 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ========== target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== _____ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System ShieldR http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________ No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:55 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings From: "tennant" Juergen, I had my prop balanced in Bonn Hangelar and it is turbine smooth now. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=375556#375556 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.