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1. 01:05 AM - Outrigger flange W21 (mau11)
2. 10:07 AM - Re: Schicke Regulator at last (G-IANI)
3. 10:24 AM - Re: Schicke Regulator at last (Gilles Thesee)
4. 10:51 AM - Re: Schicke Regulator at last (Robert Borger)
5. 11:21 PM - Installing baggage area increase mod (William Bliss)
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| Subject: | Outrigger flange W21 |
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| Subject: | Schicke Regulator at last |
Bob
In the Schicke provided diagram the fuse (0.5amp) is in the line to pin 4,
which is the voltage sense pin. Our (LAA) circuit puts the fuse in the line
to "Gen Led" only providing the protection intended. In the Schicke setup
if the fuse goes the regulator does not "see" the output voltage so it
increases it. We have had a report that this fried the battery in one
installation. The sense line should never be disconnected.
You are right there is no reason you need the LED anyway.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Borger
Sent: 03 July 2012 04:08
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Schicke Regulator at last
Ian,
Thanks for the heads-up. Just found the listing on the LAA website this
evening. That's a tough site on which to navigate or find anything.
I installed the Schicke GR6 this morning. Since I hadn't located the Mod
till this evening, I used the Schicke supplied circuit diagram of course.
What is the reasoning behind the changes made by the LAA?
I had also installed a B&C under/over voltage warning circuit so that makes
the LED in the Schicke circuit redundant. Do you know if it is necessary
for the function of the regulator? I would think not.
I haven't had an opportunity to run the engine to check it out yet.
Hopefully tomorrow morning.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:14 AM, G-IANI wrote:
At long last!
You will be pleased to know that the Schicke GR6 voltage regulator has been
approved.
The Mod details are in the Rotax standard mods section on the LAA web site
Number, SM12970
Note that the circuit diagram differs slightly from the diagram supplied by
Schicke. The LAA circuit should be used.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: Schicke Regulator at last |
G-IANI a crit :
>
> Bob
>
> In the Schicke provided diagram the fuse (0.5amp) is in the line to
> pin 4, which is the voltage sense pin. Our (LAA) circuit puts the fuse
> in the line to Gen Led only providing the protection intended. In
> the Schicke setup if the fuse goes the regulator does not see the
> output voltage so it increases it. We have had a report that this
> fried the battery in one installation. The sense line should never be
> disconnected.
>
Ian, Bob and all,
Sorry for feeling compelled to jump in, especially since I'm not aware
of your LAA electrical requirements.
We installed a Schicke regulator in our project from the start some 7 or
8 years ago, after performing some in-depth electrical and thermal
experiments.
In my opinion, it is crucial to provide some over voltage protection,
and our circuit includes a crowbar overvoltage module which disconnects
the alternator and regulator from the ship's bus in case of voltage
excursion.
The whole system has been working flawlessly to date.
FWIW,
Kindest regards,
--
Gilles Thesee
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Schicke Regulator at last |
Ian & Giles,
Thanks very much to both of you for the explanation, information and advice.
I will go back and check my wiring to ensure there is no fuse in the sense wire
circuit. And I will add a crowbar module before the aircraft flies again.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jul 3, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Gilles Thesee wrote:
G-IANI a crit :
>
> Bob
>
> In the Schicke provided diagram the fuse (0.5amp) is in the line to pin 4, which
is the voltage sense pin. Our (LAA) circuit puts the fuse in the line to Gen
Led only providing the protection intended. In the Schicke setup if the fuse
goes the regulator does not see the output voltage so it increases it. We have
had a report that this fried the battery in one installation. The sense line
should never be disconnected.
>
Ian, Bob and all,
Sorry for feeling compelled to jump in, especially since I'm not aware of your
LAA electrical requirements.
We installed a Schicke regulator in our project from the start some 7 or 8 years
ago, after performing some in-depth electrical and thermal experiments.
In my opinion, it is crucial to provide some over voltage protection, and our circuit
includes a crowbar overvoltage module which disconnects the alternator
and regulator from the ship's bus in case of voltage excursion.
The whole system has been working flawlessly to date.
FWIW,
Kindest regards,
--
Gilles Thesee
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Installing baggage area increase mod |
Has anyone modified a completed Europa Classic from normal baggage area
to increased baggage area? Is it difficult, time consuming, expensive?
I suspect this question has already been asked on this forum before. Any
tips on how to search archived discussion threads appreciated.
William Bliss
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