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1. 01:01 AM - Re: Short field landings VP prop (Pete Lawless)
2. 01:01 AM - Re: Short field landings VP prop (David Joyce)
3. 01:41 AM - Re: fuel smell (houlihan)
4. 01:56 AM - Birds and bees (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
5. 02:10 AM - Rudder - Sprung? (Carl Meek)
6. 02:48 AM - Re: Rudder - Sprung? (G-IANI)
7. 03:03 AM - Re: Rudder - Sprung? (craig)
8. 03:14 AM - Re: Rudder - Sprung? (Bob Harrison)
9. 03:16 AM - Re: The Standard Warning Light (Remi Guerner)
10. 03:26 AM - Re: Rudder - Sprung? (Carl Meek)
11. 03:39 AM - For attention of all Europa Owners/pilots in UK and Europe. Wickenby(EGNW) 2013 (Bob Harrison)
12. 03:51 AM - corrosion protection (fireflier)
13. 04:31 AM - Tough luck! (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
14. 04:38 AM - Re: corrosion protection (G-IANI)
15. 04:59 AM - Sorry for duplicate message! (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
16. 06:03 AM - Re: corrosion protection (nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk)
17. 07:06 AM - Re: Thin Stainless Steel (mr bill)
18. 08:27 AM - Re: Thin Stainless Steel (Paul McAllister)
19. 09:55 AM - Re: Re: corrosion protection (Alex Kaarsberg)
20. 10:44 AM - Re: Thin Stainless Steel (Robert Borger)
21. 12:15 PM - Re: Thin Stainless Steel (Paul McAllister)
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Subject: | Short field landings VP prop |
Hi William
I operate a 80hp mono off a 550 metre strip slightly humped. My prop is an
NSI with just a simple pitch control (ie no constant speed unit).
In full fine the 'slowing effect' is dramatic. Apart from the fact the
aeroplane will descend at 120 kts indicated with the VSI on the stops at
2000 fpm, the effect on the float after round out is very noticeable.
The only time our strip feels short is on a hot day at max weight with cross
wind, then I do think another 20 hp would be good to have. Although in
practice you are at 50 feet over the far hedge.
Why not try the aeroplane as a mono? They are great and the ground handling
is not scary if you get some training.
Regards
Pete
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Sent: 08 July 2012 23:24
Subject: Europa-List: Short field landings VP prop
I am wondering about the length of strip I intend to use for a mono
classic (to be converted to tailwheel). 450yards - slight uphill. The
figures look marginal.
Does a variable pitch prop have any slowing affect when fully fine and
idling?
William Bliss
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Subject: | Re: Short field landings VP prop |
William, As long as the approaches are good (notresses or
high fences to clear) 450 yds should be generally fine,
although will need some thought if wind requires you to
land downhill. Once on the ground you need not much more
han 100 yds.There is a noticeable difference in the float
and ground run between fine & coarse prop settings.
However would certainly not recommend a strip that short
to learn on. Get thoroughly comfortable somewhere else
first. Happy landings, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
On Sun, 08 Jul 2012 23:24:09 +0100
William Bliss <william@wbliss.co.uk> wrote:
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> I am wondering about the length of strip I intend to use
>for a mono classic (to be converted to tailwheel).
>450yards - slight uphill. The figures look marginal.
>
> Does a variable pitch prop have any slowing affect when
>fully fine and idling?
>
> William Bliss
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Hi Tim.
He says it is a classic so unless it is modified to XS standard it would
not have a "cobra" just a long permeable rubber hose.
The comments about side slip makes me wonder if it is an exhaust issue
rather than a smell from the hose.
Tim H
On 8 July 2012 23:40, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> William,
> Look at the seal near the fuel intake cap. Make sure it has been sealed
> completely between the plastic cobra and fuel cap body.
> Otherwise the rubber pipe maybe allowing fuel to permeate through creating
> the smell?
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> Tim Ward
> 12 Waiwetu Street
> Fendalton,
> Christchurch, 8052
> New Zealand.
>
> ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>
> Ph 64 3 3515166
> Mob 0210640221
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>
> On 9/07/2012, at 10:18 AM, William Bliss <william@wbliss.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > I had an enjoyable flight in a Europa today. The main drawback was that
> the fuel smell was there - and became very strong and off putting when I
> was trying sideslips. Tank was about half full. I do not think it can be
> due to fumes permeating through the tank wall. When I had a look up inside
> the the under - fuselage panel, I could not see any evidence of fuel
> leakage. The tank did not look wrinkled or warped. Could there be a vent
> leaking somewhere? Does an aluminium tank have the same problem? What I
> really need is an idea of cost and time to fix it.
> >
> > I suspect this has been discussed before
> >
> > William Bliss
> >
> >
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Some weeks ago there were some thoughts on bird strikes and pitot tube
covers on this list.
Attached is an example of both, seen on an AN-2 at Bad W=F6ringshofen
recently.
Happy flying!
Svein
LN-SKJ
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Subject: | Rudder - Sprung? |
Hi,
Is the Europa supposed to have springs on the rudder pedals? Mine don't =AD
they flop around. Doesn't cause a problem for the most part, but it can
cause it to flap around in the wind, which can't do it any good.
Regards,
-Carl.
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Subject: | Rudder - Sprung? |
Carl
The rudder system should have a spring at the forward end of each cable (see
CBM 22-8). As standard they are not very strong and most owners add some
sort of additional stop (strap) for when the aircraft is parked.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Meek
Sent: 09 July 2012 10:08
Subject: Europa-List: Rudder - Sprung?
Hi,
Is the Europa supposed to have springs on the rudder pedals? Mine don't -
they flop around. Doesn't cause a problem for the most part, but it can
cause it to flap around in the wind, which can't do it any good.
Regards,
-Carl.
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Subject: | Rudder - Sprung? |
There is supposed to be two springs at the end of the tunnel, right next to
the engine mount on each side of the tunnel, they connect to the
Arm the cable is attached to and connect to bolts at the end of the side of
the foot well pulling forward to tension the cables.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Meek
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:08 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Rudder - Sprung?
Hi,
Is the Europa supposed to have springs on the rudder pedals? Mine don't -
they flop around. Doesn't cause a problem for the most part, but it can
cause it to flap around in the wind, which can't do it any good.
Regards,
-Carl.
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Subject: | Rudder - Sprung? |
Hi! Carl,
Yes springs are light but centralising to neutral mounted to levers which
make up part of the pedal pivot drive shafts in front of the central
firewall. See figure 1 of General Arrangement of Rudder Pedals Sketch page
29-9 issue 1.
Of course as one is pushed it returns the other being both attached to
cables at the rudder end.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Meek
Sent: 09 July 2012 10:08
Subject: Europa-List: Rudder - Sprung?
Hi,
Is the Europa supposed to have springs on the rudder pedals? Mine don't -
they flop around. Doesn't cause a problem for the most part, but it can
cause it to flap around in the wind, which can't do it any good.
Regards,
-Carl.
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Subject: | Re: The Standard Warning Light |
Hi Alan,
I been there before. When I purchase my aircraft 11 years ago, the Flydat was showing
"Service" because the previous owner had exceeded the max RPM after breaking
his prop during a forced landing. The french Rotax distributor - Avirex-
reset the unit at no charge. Then several years later and long after I installed
a new engine, the Flydat started to show service again, while I was sure I
had not exceeded any engine limit. I went to Rotax again and they told me this
was before I had reached the TBO limit as set in the Flydat by the Rotax factory!
At the time of manufacturing of my original engine and Flydat (around 1999)
the TBO for the 914 was 600 hours, so this is what is entered in my Flydat.
The unit was reset to zero time as it was the only way to erase the "Service"
warning in that case. Unfortunately there is no way to change the TBO entered
into the Flydat memory. That means I will have to go to Rotax every 600 hours
to reset my unit in spite of having now an engine with a 1500 hours TBO.
Now there is only one inconvenience -a major one- with flying with the unit showing
"service": while the unit is displaying "service", i.e. during the first
30 seconds after starting the engine, you cannot check your oil pressure,
as no parameter is displayed. Otherwise the Flydat is fully functional after the
"service" warning is gone. The warning/alarm function is working normally as
well.
The reset is a 2 minutes work with the proper tooling connected to the jack on
the front face of the unit, so there is no need to remove it from the panel. Check
with your Rotax dealer if they do it for free.
Hope that helps
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL, XS monowheel, 912ULS, 950 hours total.
""the Flydat has been showing "Service" for some time, and is brought about by
exceeding a parameter, say a prop over-speed, and only Rotax can Reset the unit
at probably some extortionate cost .
He has been flying with the unite like this for some years,,
This is not good practice, and i am not sure if the warning lights do there pre
start checks with Service showing,""
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Subject: | Re: Rudder - Sprung? |
Thanks Bob,
Mine work perfectly in flight, but flop about when your feet are not on
them. Definitely no springs what so ever.
Thanks,
-Carl.
From: Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rudder - Sprung?
Hi! Carl,
Yes springs are light but centralising to neutral mounted to levers which
make up part of the pedal pivot drive shafts in front of the central
firewall. See figure 1 of General Arrangement of Rudder Pedals Sketch page
29-9 issue 1.
Of course as one is pushed it returns the other being both attached to
cables at the rudder end.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Meek
Sent: 09 July 2012 10:08
Subject: Europa-List: Rudder - Sprung?
Hi,
Is the Europa supposed to have springs on the rudder pedals? Mine don't =AD
they flop around. Doesn't cause a problem for the most part, but it can
cause it to flap around in the wind, which can't do it any good.
Regards,
-Carl.
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Subject: | For attention of all Europa Owners/pilots in UK and Europe. |
Wickenby(EGNW) 2013
Hi! All prospective 2013 visitors to the the UK.
I can advise you that Our 2013 Wickenby Wings and Wheels Air Show will be on
June 15 and 16 . (Fathers Day again .....well let's face it
They are "Big Boy's Toys" !!!!) Make a note in your Diaries , also that
attention to having a "visiting aircraft escape slot" during the air show
will be granted as per request . So now no excuses pertain .....just enter
it up in your diaries please .....NOW.
Regards
Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
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Subject: | corrosion protection |
What are the best options of providing corrosion protection to the steel parts
CS05 and CS10?
The parts I have in my kit don't have the gold zinc finish that they come with
now, mine are black in appearance and I would say need some form of protection.
My thoughts are to use hammerite paint, but would like to ask your opinions
and what you used to protect these parts during the build process?
Can I also ask if any of you provided corrosion protection to parts CS01,CS02,
CS03, CS07 and CS08? I know these parts are aluminum and therefore shouldn't
need to be protected.
I look forward to hearing your comments
Many thanks
Donald
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Fireflier
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Some weeks ago there were some thoughts on pitot tube covers on this
list,
and some comments on bird strikes.
Attached is an example of both, seen on an AN-2 at Bad W=F6ringshofen
recently.
Happy flying!
Svein
LN-SKJ
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Subject: | corrosion protection |
Donald
Yes the steel work of early kits is oil blued, not plated as are the later
kits. On my aircraft I painted them with Hammarite (the flat finish not the
crackle) and this has lasted well.
The aluminium parts can be treated by anodising, alocrom (a DIY anodising
process), powder coating etc etc. This is a complex subject and I am
working on an article for the web site on this topic.
My experience is that, without any treatment, the parts you refer to are
sufficiently well protected that they show no signs of corrosion after ten
years.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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Subject: | Sorry for duplicate message! |
I have posted to similar messages just now. I realized that the attached
jpg file in the first message I sent to the Matronics server was far too
large compared to the guidelines, and thought it had been stopped because it
did not appear on the list.
Sorry!
Svein
LN-SKJ
Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: corrosion protection |
I would recommend anodising all alloy parts and powder coating steel
parts (that don't need a precision fint into some other component). When
powder coating, ask for bead blasting NOT grit blasting (avoids stress
risers) and specify a corrosion proofing pre-tratment. The inside of
tubing can be protected with liquid corrosion inhibitors like ACF50,
Shell Ensis and others (after carfully cleaning out all post-powder
coating detritus).
The attached pdf gives you the UK specs for anodising (from your e-mail
address I guess that you are located in the UK).
Apart from anything else, well finished parts will increase the
"saleability" of you aircraft when you finally want to move on.
Nigel
On 09/07/2012 11:49, fireflier wrote:
>
> What are the best options of providing corrosion protection to the steel parts
CS05 and CS10?
>
> The parts I have in my kit don't have the gold zinc finish that they come with
now, mine are black in appearance and I would say need some form of protection.
My thoughts are to use hammerite paint, but would like to ask your opinions
and what you used to protect these parts during the build process?
>
> Can I also ask if any of you provided corrosion protection to parts CS01,CS02,
CS03, CS07 and CS08? I know these parts are aluminum and therefore shouldn't
need to be protected.
>
> I look forward to hearing your comments
>
> Many thanks
> Donald
>
> --------
> Fireflier
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377726#377726
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Thin Stainless Steel |
Speedy Metals in New Berlin Wi, they have 24 gauge (.024 thick). contact at ph
1-262-784-4140 or speedymetals.com. Bill at 02C.
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Subject: | Re: Thin Stainless Steel |
Hi Bud,
Can you tell me where I can purchase the SS/Fiberfax material ?
Thanks, Paul
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
> **
> Paul,
> For all the Europa needs here in the US, Aircraft Spruce carries what is
> necessary.
> Firewall:
> For the Trigear or mono I use the .016 thickness stainless steel and a
> Whitney punch to make the holes. At .016 it can be drilled but is hard on
> the bits.
> For the firewall in Trigear which goes behind the gear frame, I do not use
> hard stainless sheet, I use the firewall 2000 kit. This is a sandwich
> material of real stainless foil, firberfax (insulation and fireproof
> material to replace asbestos) and on the other side a thin aluminum foil.
> The gray sealant and adhesive works great.
>
> Do not use aluminum foil insulation material sold in home improvement
> stores as from experience it bursts into flame on direct contact with
> fire. It burns really well after the flame is removed.
>
>
> Plate Damage to a wing or fuselage hardpoint; 1/8 inch 6061 T-6 is fine.
> It's a bit harder to drill than 2024. But it doesn't corrode.
>
>
> Wing Brackets; if I have to custom make a set I use again the 1/8
> inch 6061T-6.
>
> Regards,
> Bud
>
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Subject: | Re: corrosion protection |
Although well impressed with powder coating in general, I would be reluctant to
use it on anything important.
I have spent more time than I care to remember, inspecting aircraft structures
and parts and I am pretty certain that it not only would protect well, it would
also keep any sign of corrosion well hidden until it is too late!
Also, I have never seen it used on transport category aircraft and suspect this
may well be the reason for that.
Proper cleaning and priming/painting is the only really good solution.
I used phosphate primer on all steel parts not cadmium plated already.
Alu parts use zinc chromate primer.
Again, as in grp work, clean clean and clean, then protect well.
Brgds, Alex, kit 529
Em 09/07/2012, s 17:00, "nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk" <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk>
escreveu:
> I would recommend anodising all alloy parts and powder coating steel parts (that
don't need a precision fint into some other component). When powder coating,
ask for bead blasting NOT grit blasting (avoids stress risers) and specify
a corrosion proofing pre-tratment. The inside of tubing can be protected with
liquid corrosion inhibitors like ACF50, Shell Ensis and others (after carfully
cleaning out all post-powder coating detritus).
> The attached pdf gives you the UK specs for anodising (from your e-mail address
I guess that you are located in the UK).
> Apart from anything else, well finished parts will increase the "saleability"
of you aircraft when you finally want to move on.
>
> Nigel
>
> On 09/07/2012 11:49, fireflier wrote:
>>
>> What are the best options of providing corrosion protection to the steel parts
CS05 and CS10?
>>
>> The parts I have in my kit don't have the gold zinc finish that they come with
now, mine are black in appearance and I would say need some form of protection.
My thoughts are to use hammerite paint, but would like to ask your opinions
and what you used to protect these parts during the build process?
>>
>> Can I also ask if any of you provided corrosion protection to parts CS01,CS02,
CS03, CS07 and CS08? I know these parts are aluminum and therefore shouldn't
need to be protected.
>>
>> I look forward to hearing your comments
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Donald
>>
>> --------
>> Fireflier
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377726#377726
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> <120709 - Anodising.pdf>
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Subject: | Re: Thin Stainless Steel |
Paul,
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/firewall2000.php
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Paul McAllister wrote:
Hi Bud,
Can you tell me where I can purchase the SS/Fiberfax material ?
Thanks, Paul
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
Paul,
For all the Europa needs here in the US, Aircraft Spruce carries what is necessary.
Firewall:
For the Trigear or mono I use the .016 thickness stainless steel and a Whitney
punch to make the holes. At .016 it can be drilled but is hard on the bits.
For the firewall in Trigear which goes behind the gear frame, I do not use hard
stainless sheet, I use the firewall 2000 kit. This is a sandwich material of
real stainless foil, firberfax (insulation and fireproof material to replace
asbestos) and on the other side a thin aluminum foil. The gray sealant and adhesive
works great.
Do not use aluminum foil insulation material sold in home improvement stores as
from experience it bursts into flame on direct contact with fire. It burns really
well after the flame is removed.
Plate Damage to a wing or fuselage hardpoint; 1/8 inch 6061 T-6 is fine. It's
a bit harder to drill than 2024. But it doesn't corrode.
Wing Brackets; if I have to custom make a set I use again the 1/8 inch 6061T-6.
Regards,
Bud
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Subject: | Re: Thin Stainless Steel |
Bob,
Thanks the link. I had assumed that firewall 2000 referred to Europa's new
firewall kit... duh !
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On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/firewall2000.php
>
> Blue skies & tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
> Cel: 817-992-1117
> rlborger@mac.com
>
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