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Thu 07/26/12


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     1. 01:01 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Europa-List=3A_Mono_wheel_up_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?landing? (Carl Pattinson)
     2. 01:06 AM - Re: Mono wheel up landing (Richard Lamprey)
     3. 04:03 AM - Re: Heat in the cockpit (Bob Harrison)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:01:29 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Europa-List=3A_Mono_wheel_up_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?landing?
    X-mailer: iolo System Shield 10.7.6.60 I would concur with David over best way to deal with retraction problem. In the early days I recall quite a few Europa pilots "forgot" to lower the undercarriage with the inevitable results. We sustained a prop strike due to ground looping on a hard runway. The engine was at idling and we smashed the tips of 2 blades. There was no engine damage as the slipper touch took all of the shock. At the time (10 yrs ago) we were advised to check the prop shaft had not been bent (ie: prop hadn't gone wobbly). I believe the current wisdom is that the gearbox has to be stripped down by Rotax agent and the gears dye checked for cracks). With the engine stopped I believe the damage to engine would be minimal as the blades are quite flexible so no direct shock loads. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: 25 July 2012 20:10 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono wheel up landing --> <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> Graeme, If the prop is going round you will break it and very possibly damage the engine, so if it ever does happen for real deliberately stop the engine on final approach to protect the engine, and you just might be lucky and get it to stop in the one blade up & two down position where you can hope to avoid breaking the prop too. I once flew through some rotor in the Welsh mountains and found that the severe turbulence moved the joint in the gear lever so that when I came to put the gear down the lever was about 1/4" from the detent. I flew away from the circuit to consider my options, but found it actually yielded to main force (pulling hard with my right hand whilst thumping that hand with my left fist), but two points worth mentioning: 1) If the plane is still flying properly go away somewhere and at a safe height do your fiddling. You do not need serious distractions at circuit height. 2) With time to reflect on it, I realise that it would have been OK to land with it as far down as it was, as the gear had reached its stop and the mechanism would have been over centre, and with a hand on the knob to stop any impact rattling it out of that position landing would have been no problem Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:07:24 -0700 "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote: ><graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> > >For a very brief moment last night I thought my wheel was stuck up. >I'll chock it up and check it all out but I have wondered what the best >technique would have been. I doubt the prop would clear. I guess short >grass and as slow on contact and as much on the tail as possible. >Would the prop just smash up or would it take the engine off? > > I guess that a sharpish pitch up would also encourage it down. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP > Newby: 35 hours > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379168#379168 > > > > > > > >Un/Subscription, >Forums! >Admin. > > > _______________________________________ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System ShieldR http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________ No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com


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    Time: 01:06:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mono wheel up landing
    From: "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
    I landed gear up (monowheel classic). I lowered the gear, to slow down as usual, but forgot to lock. This was on a grass strip in Uganda, it had just rained, ground was soft. Touched down tailwheel first, then big bang, it all stopped in about 10 metres. Main damage, smashed prop. The gear thumped up into the wheel well, against the throttle box. Slight dent to exhaust, and the fuselage flap fairing one side slightly damaged. No damage to outriggers or flap hinges. Lifted it up with engine hoist onto engine bearers, lowered gear and locked, wheeled it off strip. Then gearbox strip down as required, and check crankshaft alignment. All OK and saved by slipper clutch. Could have all been quite cheap if there was a Rotax agent nearby, but the nearest is South Africa, so getting him up to Uganda, repairs, hotels, airfares etc cost about USD 6000. All best Richard Kenya Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=379207#379207


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    Time: 04:03:00 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Heat in the cockpit
    Hi! All. I keep my aircraft in an enclosed trailer lined by spray on thermal insulation which helps prevent condensation in winter as well as cool in the summer. Doesn't look pretty but is effective. (the same stuff the farming potato store owners use. It would be nice if it would assemble and dismantle at the turn of a switch too ! Regards to all. Bob Harrison G-PTAG trike with 914 and slipper clutch. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Martin Tuck Sent: 26 July 2012 04:47 Subject: Europa-List: Heat in the cockpit I was interested to read the recent commentary regarding trying various covers to keep the Europa cockpit cool. I keep my Europa hangared but I suspect the cockpit temperatures are likely close to ambient. I'm attaching an image of our weeks weather from the local TV station. Note, current temperature reading at 10.30 pm. Waiting for some cooler weather .... Regards, Martin Tuck Wichita, Kansas




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