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1. 01:07 AM - Re: outrigger legs (Remi Guerner)
2. 02:26 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (G-IANI)
3. 02:44 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
4. 02:45 AM - Re: outrigger legs (Ivan Shaw)
5. 02:55 AM - Re: outrigger legs (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
6. 03:01 AM - Jacking block (p-a.austin)
7. 03:58 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=F8rensen?=)
8. 04:07 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
9. 06:49 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (Fred Klein)
10. 07:10 AM - Re: Jacking block (jonathanmilbank)
11. 09:07 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Gert_Dalgaard_S=F8rensen?=)
12. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering (Bud Yerly)
13. 10:04 AM - Re: Jacking up the mono (Fred Klein)
14. 10:25 AM - Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering (Bud Yerly)
15. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: outrigger legs (klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com)
16. 01:10 PM - Re: Jacking block (klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com)
17. 01:41 PM - Re: Jacking block (David DeFord)
18. 02:13 PM - Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering (Alan Carter)
19. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
20. 04:08 PM - Fresh air Vents (Carl Pattinson)
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| Subject: | Re: outrigger legs |
Hi Kevin,
Your mod seems to be a good solution. However I am concern about the higher stiffness
of the 5/8" fiberglass rod at extreme deflection such as in case of a flat
tyre. Did you test this condition? How many hours have you flown with this
mod? Where did you purchase the fiber glass rod?
Thanks to all who have quickly responded to my post.
Remi
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380717#380717
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| Subject: | Jacking up the mono |
Fred
I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements. Picture
attached and I have added it to the web site. I know nothing about it and
the file name does not seem to help. Looking at the vehicles in the picture
it looks European but not UK.
Does anyone know who built it or more details?
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: 11 August 2012 21:45
Subject: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono
This thread is of great interest as I'm nearing the end of my build.
As I've pondered this issue, I'm thinking that the ideal mechanism would do
the following:
- stabilize the fuselage when wings are detached,
- function w/ and w/o the cowl attached,
- allow for changing of tire and tube,
- allow for testing of LG retraction and deployment,
- allow for the airplane to be easily moved about a hangar in any
direction...think of hangar-sharing w/ other aircraft.
To accomplish these goals, I've been thinking about some kind of
platform/dolly with 3 or 4 castering wheels of sufficient size to roll
easily on turf, gravel, or concrete combined w/ a hydraulic jack and some
kind of a cushioned cradle...
Perhaps...in my innocence...I'm over-thinking here, so I'm very interested
to know whether or not those who have been flying, hangaring, transporting,
and maintaining their aircraft have dealt with these issues with any
equipment other than the standard trailer.
Comments and experience appreciated,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up the mono |
I think it is Finland or Denmark, Used to know his name but can't quite rem
ember, Jens Szabo?=0AI know he sold his project unfinished, family reasons.
He was in the Air Force and worked on F16- perhaps?=0ASorry about the he
ad scratching!=0A=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A F
rom: G-IANI <g-iani@ntlworld.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent:
Sunday, 12 August 2012, 10:25=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Jacking up the mo
no=0A =0AFred=0A=0AI have found a picture of trolley that might fit your re
quirements.- Picture=0Aattached and I have added it to the web site.- I
know nothing about it and=0Athe file name does not seem to help.- Lookin
g at the vehicles in the picture=0Ait looks European but not UK.=0A=0ADoes
anyone know who built it or more details?=0A=0A=0AIan Rickard G-IANI XS Tri
gear, 300hours=0AEuropa Club Mods Specialist=0Ae-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-europa-list-server@mat
ronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of F
red Klein=0ASent: 11 August 2012 21:45=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASu
bject: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono=0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted
by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>=0A=0AThis thread is of great inter
est as I'm nearing the end of my build.- =0AAs I've pondered this issue,
I'm thinking that the ideal mechanism would do=0Athe following:=0A=0A- stab
ilize the fuselage when wings are detached,=0A- function w/ and w/o the cow
l attached,=0A- allow for changing of tire and tube,=0A- allow for testing
of LG retraction and deployment,=0A- allow for the airplane to be easily mo
ved about a hangar in any=0Adirection...think of hangar-sharing w/ other ai
rcraft.=0A=0ATo accomplish these goals, I've been thinking about some kind
of=0Aplatform/dolly with 3 or 4 castering wheels of sufficient size to roll
=0Aeasily on turf, gravel, or concrete combined w/ a hydraulic jack and som
e=0Akind of a cushioned cradle...=0A=0APerhaps...in my innocence...I'm over
-thinking here, so I'm very interested=0Ato know whether or not those who h
ave been flying, hangaring, transporting,=0Aand maintaining their aircraft
have dealt with these issues with any=0Aequipment other than the standard t
railer.=0A=0AComments and experience appreciated,=0A=0AFred
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Tim,
I experimented with many different materials for the outrigger legs and it
was not until using 'nylon 66' that the strength, flexibility and longevity
were all OK.
Regards
Ivan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ward
Sent: 11 August 2012 23:22
Subject: Re: Europa-List: outrigger legs
Remi,
Maybe a bad batch of legs supplied to the Company. Tell the Company and
return them for testing. They should send another pair out hopefully from a
different batch.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand.
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
Mob 0210640221
On 12/08/2012, at 8:00 AM, "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr> wrote:
> --> <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>
> Hi Monowheel drivers,
> I broke one outrigger leg two months ago and flew for a while with an
emergency repair designed on site just to allow me to go back home: the
repair was made using the existing remains of the nylon rod lengthened with
scrap aluminum tubing. When I finally received the nylon rods ordered from
the Europa factory I could not use them because they were slightly too short
and badly machined. So I ordered a length of 1"1/4 Nylon from ACS and
installed them immediately. At the first landing, one of the all new legs
broke just at mid length. I was very embarassed as this happened on a big
airport were I had the honor of a jumbo eight wheeler fire truck! This time
I managed to repair quickly as I was carrying the old emergency repaired rod
in the aircraft. I am now afraid of flying with the aircraft as it is, as an
out rigger leg can break again at the next landing.
> My questions:
> - How is that possible that a new nylon rod breaks at the very first
landing while the original parts have been able to withstand 12 years of
aging, 950 flight hours and probably one or two thousand landings, some of
them not as smooth as they should be?
> - How is that possible that the nylon rod broke right at mid length, which
is not where the maximum stress is located? Note that the first leg broke at
the upper end which seems logical to me.
> - What is the experience on other monowheels regarding the life of those
nylon rods?
> - has anyone designed and tested a variation of the original outriggers,
with rods made of other materials such as glass fiber, steel...?
> Regards
> Remi Guerner
> F-PGKL, grounded
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380679#380679
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: outrigger legs |
Ivan=0Awhat about the water content, how does that affect stiffness? I wond
er if drought conditions is harmful?=0A=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________
_________________=0A From: Ivan Shaw <ivanshaw@btinternet.com>=0ATo: europa
-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 10:44=0ASubject: RE: E
haw" <ivanshaw@btinternet.com>=0A=0ATim,=0AI experimented with many differe
nt materials for the outrigger legs and it=0Awas not until using 'nylon 66'
that the strength, flexibility and longevity=0Awere all OK.=0A=0ARegards
=0AIvan=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-europa-list-server@ma
tronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Tim Ward=0ASent: 11 August 2012 23:22=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASub
ject: Re: Europa-List: outrigger legs=0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted b
y: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>=0A=0ARemi,=0AMaybe a bad batch of legs supp
lied to the Company. Tell the Company and=0Areturn them for testing. They s
hould send another pair out hopefully from a=0Adifferent batch. =0A=0ACheer
s,=0A=0ATim=0A=0ATim Ward=0A12 Waiwetu Street=0AFendalton,=0AChristchurch,
- 8052=0ANew Zealand.=0A=0Award.t@xtra.co.nz=0A=0APh 64 3 3515166=0AMob 0
210640221=0A=0A=0AOn 12/08/2012, at 8:00 AM, "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@or
=0A> --> <air.guerner@orange.fr>=0A> =0A> Hi Monowheel drivers,=0A> I broke
one outrigger leg two months ago and flew for a while with an=0Aemergency
repair designed on site just to allow me to go back home: the=0Arepair was
made using the existing remains of the nylon rod lengthened with=0Ascrap al
uminum tubing. When I finally received the nylon rods ordered from=0Athe Eu
ropa factory I could not use them because they were slightly too short=0Aan
d badly machined. So I ordered a length of 1"1/4 Nylon from ACS and=0Ainsta
lled them immediately. At the first landing, one of the all new legs=0Abrok
e just at mid length. I was very embarassed as this happened on a big=0Aair
port were I had the honor of a jumbo eight wheeler fire truck! This time=0A
I managed to repair quickly as I was carrying the old emergency repaired ro
d=0Ain the aircraft. I am now afraid of flying with the aircraft as it is,
as an=0Aout rigger leg can break again at the next landing.=0A> My question
s:=0A> - How is that possible that a new nylon rod breaks at the very first
=0Alanding while the original parts have been able to withstand 12 years of
=0Aaging, 950 flight hours and probably one or two thousand landings, some
of=0Athem not as smooth as they should be?=0A> - How is that possible that
the nylon rod broke right at mid length, which=0Ais not where the maximum s
tress is located? Note that the first leg broke at=0Athe upper end which se
ems logical to me.=0A> - What is the experience on other monowheels regardi
ng the life of those=0Anylon rods?=0A> - has anyone designed and tested a v
ariation of the original outriggers,=0Awith rods made of other materials su
ch as glass fiber, steel...?=0A> Regards=0A> Remi Guerner=0A> F-PGKL, groun
ded=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http://fo
rums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380679#380679=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>
=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----=0ANo virus found in
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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> I feel a need for a small, light, jacking block to use with most any jack
> that
> would be part of my tool kit in the aircraft.
>
> Kevin
Kevin,
I made one out of Aluminium flat plate and angle welded together, the flat
plate has 4 holes that fit tight over the heads of the 4 bolts on the front
face of the swing arm, the angle is welded to the flat plate so one face is
parallel to the ground to which is welded a small stud to centre and stop
the jack from slipping off. This arrangement will accommodate any scissor
jack that all cars now carry. The only thing you need to source locally if
away from your home field is the jack and blocks of wood to sit the jack on
and the outriggers.
Peter
ZK-ZEB
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up the mono |
Correct, Graham - as always :) - F16, RDAF, name ...
It was build by Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and me.
We build three examples, and Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and i each have
one.
Works great.
I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested.
Gert
OY-GDS / mono / 914
Den 12/08/2012 kl. 11.44 skrev GRAHAM SINGLETON
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>:
> I think it is Finland or Denmark, Used to know his name but can't
quite remember, Jens Szabo?
> I know he sold his project unfinished, family reasons. He was in the
Air Force and worked on F16 perhaps?
> Sorry about the head scratching!
> Graham
>
> From: G-IANI <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 10:25
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono
>
> Fred
>
> I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements.
Picture
> attached and I have added it to the web site. I know nothing about it
and
> the file name does not seem to help. Looking at the vehicles in the
picture
> it looks European but not UK.
>
> Does anyone know who built it or more details?
>
>
> Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
> Europa Club Mods Specialist
> e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred
Klein
> Sent: 11 August 2012 21:45
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono
>
>
> This thread is of great interest as I'm nearing the end of my build.
> As I've pondered this issue, I'm thinking that the ideal mechanism
would do
> the following:
>
> - stabilize the fuselage when wings are detached,
> - function w/ and w/o the cowl attached,
> - allow for changing of tire and tube,
> - allow for testing of LG retraction and deployment,
> - allow for the airplane to be easily moved about a hangar in any
> direction...think of hangar-sharing w/ other aircraft.
>
> To accomplish these goals, I've been thinking about some kind of
> platform/dolly with 3 or 4 castering wheels of sufficient size to roll
> easily on turf, gravel, or concrete combined w/ a hydraulic jack and
some
> kind of a cushioned cradle...
>
> Perhaps...in my innocence...I'm over-thinking here, so I'm very
interested
> to know whether or not those who have been flying, hangaring,
transporting,
> and maintaining their aircraft have dealt with these issues with any
> equipment other than the standard trailer.
>
> Comments and experience appreciated,
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up the mono |
Thanks Gert, give my regards to Jens if you see him. =0A=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0A From: Gert Dalgaard S=F8rensen <stab
elvej9@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 12 Augus
t 2012, 11:57=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono=0A =0A=0ACorr
ect, Graham -- -as always -:) -- -F16, RDAF, name ...=0AIt was bu
ild by Jens Aabo, Jens Kristensen and me.=0AWe build three examples, and Je
ns Aabo, Jens Kristensen and i each have one.=0AWorks great.=0AI can upload
detailed pictures if anybody is interested.=0AGert=0AOY-GDS / mono / 914
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ADen 12/08/2012 kl. 11.44 skrev GRAHAM SINGLETON
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>:=0A=0AI think it is Finland or Denmark, Us
ed to know his name but can't quite remember, Jens Szabo?=0A>I know he sold
his project unfinished, family reasons. He was in the Air Force and worked
on F16- perhaps?=0A>Sorry about the head scratching!=0A>=0A>Graham=0A>
=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> From: G-IANI <g-iani@ntlwo
rld.com>=0A>To: europa-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012,
10:25=0A>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono=0A> =0A>Fred=0A>=0A
>I have found a picture of trolley that might fit your requirements.- Pic
ture=0A>attached and I have added it to the web site.- I know nothing abo
ut it and=0A>the file name does not seem to help.- Looking at the vehicle
s in the picture=0A>it looks European but not UK.=0A>=0A>Does anyone know w
ho built it or more details?=0A>=0A>=0A>Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300h
ours=0A>Europa Club Mods Specialist=0A>e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com =0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>From: owner-europa-list-server@matron
ics.com=0A>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fre
d Klein=0A>Sent: 11 August 2012 21:45=0A>To: europa-list@matronics.com=0A>S
ubject: Europa-List: Jacking up the mono=0A>=0A>--> Europa-List message pos
ted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>=0A>=0A>This thread is of great
interest as I'm nearing the end of my build.- =0A>As I've pondered this i
ssue, I'm thinking that the ideal mechanism would do=0A>the following:=0A>
=0A>- stabilize the fuselage when wings are detached,=0A>- function w/ and
w/o the cowl attached,=0A>- allow for changing of tire and tube,=0A>- allow
for testing of LG retraction and deployment,=0A>- allow for the airplane t
o be easily moved about a hangar in any=0A>direction...think of=0A hangar-s
haring w/ other aircraft.=0A>=0A>To accomplish these goals, I've been think
ing about some kind of=0A>platform/dolly with 3 or 4 castering wheels of su
fficient size to roll=0A>easily on turf, gravel, or concrete combined w/ a
hydraulic jack and some=0A>kind of a cushioned cradle...=0A>=0A>Perhaps...i
n my innocence...I'm over-thinking here, so I'm very interested=0A>to know
whether or not those who have been flying, hangaring, transporting,=0A>and
maintaining their aircraft have dealt with these issues with any=0A>equipme
nt other than the standard trailer.=0A>=0A>Comments and experience apprecia
ted,=0A>=0A>Fred=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>href="http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com=0Ahref
="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contrib
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up the mono |
On Aug 12, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Gert Dalgaard S=F8rensen wrote:
> I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested.
Gert...that would be very kind of you...your rig looks very
interesting to me...Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking block |
Sounds very similar to mine, except that mine is made from steel. You had more
confidence than me, in that you made the four holes large enough to fit snugly
around the four bolt-heads. Mine has the lower two holes sized for the bolt shanks,
so I first have to remove the two bolts in order to clamp the piece to
the swinging arm.
Therefore I must find tools for the nuts and bolts, as well as pieces of wood and
a jack if I'm away from base.
Must be something about the Southern Hemisphere, causing NZ and SA builders to
come up with very similar simple ideas.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380739#380739
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up the mono |
OK, check here:
http://www.dalgaard1.dk/Dalgaard/Europa_jig.html
Den 12/08/2012 kl. 15.48 skrev Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>:
> On Aug 12, 2012, at 3:57 AM, Gert Dalgaard S=F8rensen wrote:
>
>> I can upload detailed pictures if anybody is interested.
>
> Gert...that would be very kind of you...your rig looks very
interesting to me...Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering |
Alan,
All flying tails are powerful, easy to trim, simple to construct and
give excellent pilot feedback and can increase the CG range. But not
intuitively obvious as to their design.
Barn door hinges on stabilizer/elevator are OK too, can be lighter,
easier to mount, but require more area in many cases based on CG range
and tail power required, and when balanced, are as heavy as a flying
tail. At the extremes of the CG range, the drag is higher on this
control surface than a stabilator.
I will stick to stabs.
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: GRAHAM SINGLETON<mailto:grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear
for Trailering
Alan
Nothing wrong with all flying tails, essential on the Europa to
control the change in pitch moment when the very powerful flaps are
lowered. Less built in headwind too.
Graham
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From: Alan Carter
<alancarteresq@onetel.net<mailto:alancarteresq@onetel.net>>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, 11 August 2012, 22:14
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for
Trailering
<alancarteresq@onetel.net<mailto:alancarteresq@onetel.net>>
Hello, Frans,Bud,Dave.
Thank you all for your inputs,
Bud ,some nice photo,s your trailer looks like pretty Strong, I Hope i
never need a trailer for recovering my Europa from a field.
I have bought my Europa mainly for local flying in the UK, it would be
nice to fly in Europe, but if i had a problem with the aircraft away
from home it would cost to much for me.
I purposely purchased a Europa as the wings could be detached and the
aircraft stored off the Field, if needs be and money became short, the
Europa fills this requirement.
However i hate all flying Tailplane's, they belong to jet fighters
which can take lots of G.
I want a trailer Hanger, also to load nose first as i don,t want all
the weight at the far end. (a good point about the Spats ,Frans)
My concern was where to connect the tow line to the aircraft, to me
the upper main gear seems to be the strongest point, but i see many are
using the nose wheel with out any problems, so maybe i will use this
point
to attach too.
Regards
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking up the mono |
Excellent...thank you Gert,
Fred
On Aug 12, 2012, at 9:06 AM, Gert Dalgaard S=F8rensen wrote:
> OK, check here:
http://www.dalgaard1.dk/Dalgaard/Europa_jig.html
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| Subject: | Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering |
Frans,
I'll look for some pictures. I don't have them at the home office
today.
I've been too busy to finish the testing and market them. Sorry, there
will be no plans as this is an across the board wheel pant that can be
applied to any aircraft.
I've been long term testing and have drug them on the pavement, checked
brake clearance problems, brake cable routing, blown tire survivability,
etc. trying to see what will suite all types of fliers, fields etc. We
are now testing to see how it works on rough fields, determining where
clearance from the tire and ground gives max speed vs max survival on
grass fields. I do not like negative feedback, and I have a lot of it
from myself as it took my guys twice as long to install them than it did
for me and my initial set has stress cracks due to pounding on multiple
touch and goes. Prototype two and three only have about 25 hours on
them in the field.
The wheel pant has an outside, and an inside which must match well, and
a metal and nylon spacers and reinforcements, and be light weight and be
able to take ground punishment without cracks or failure. The molds
need to be changed to meet our construction needs. Delicate little doo
dads tend to crack and fail over the long term. I try to make things
that are light, well tested, durable, and easy to install.
So just trying to make a buck (or at least break even). We have to put
the marketing together. After the elections, my medical tests are
complete, and I clear out some aircraft, I'll pull back a little to cut
the hours down and do more testing. Then I'll do a new set of molds.
I'm shooting for a complete trigear set of pants and gear legs, with tow
bar for $1000. That's $20 per hour with it fitted for the Europa.
Right now I don't like the gear leg transition to the fuselage. Too
fiddley.
So after we get the Jabiru cooling mod article finished,
Do the new cowl for the Rotax,
Finish the new trigear step,
Do more propeller testing,
build two sets of glider wings with mod 78,
and finish two kits, I'll get right on it.
Sorry. I just don't want to sell the wine before its time. I have
three sets in test and want to look and see how they do in a real world
environment. 100 hours on them so far, and the third prototype is
holding up well.
Bud
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From: Frans Veldman<mailto:frans@privatepilots.nl>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for
Trailering
<frans@privatepilots.nl<mailto:frans@privatepilots.nl>>
On 08/08/2012 05:14 AM, Bud Yerly wrote:
> I prefer to pull the aircraft facing forward on my dual axel
trailer.
In the Netherlands, and I think in most of Europe, you need a special
driving licence for such a trailer. And there are restrictions on the
type of car used to tow it. Furthermore, such a trailer needs to be
registered and you can not build it yourself.
I have the required license and the required type of car, but I had to
give up on getting the custom trailer licensed. It is far easier here
to
get a registration for a homebuilt airplane than for a custom built
trailer. So, I'm forced to keep the trailer unlicensed, and that means
that it is limited to a total weight of 750 Kg's (including the load)
and "single axle" (which may also be dual axle provided the axles are
adjacent to each other).
In such a situation, (especially with "one" axle) it is best to load
the
airplane backwards so the trailer's axle can be close to the rear. You
are right about the rudder lock, that is really necessary, but for the
rest I don't see any disadvantages.
There is another advantage: if I unload the airplane on our local
grass
strip I can just hop in and taxi away, no need to replace the trailer
or
to turn the aircraft around in the grass. This is really convenient.
> My plane does have my custom wheel pants that are hinged so it only
> takes three screws to undo the pant, flip it up out of the way and
strap
> down the wheel.
Any pictures about these wheel pants?
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: outrigger legs |
I purchased the fiberglass rod stock from McMaster-Carr.
I tested it on the bench by fixing it horizontally in the OR fitting with the tapered
nylon "adapter bushing". Then applying weights to the wheel end, and measuring
the deflection. The 5/8" fiberglass rod has a very similar flex pattern
to the original 1 1/4" nylon-66.
I have flown with this outrigger setup now for over a year, 100 hours and lots
of landings. I fly primarily from hard surface runways, but recently completed
a nice long "flyabout" from Califoria to northern Washington and Idaho, landing
on lots of grass strips. I continued on to Oshkosh, then back to CA. I carry
a couple spare legs just in case, but so far so good!
Kevin
On Aug 12, 2012, at 1:06 AM, "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
> Your mod seems to be a good solution. However I am concern about the higher stiffness
of the 5/8" fiberglass rod at extreme deflection such as in case of a
flat tyre. Did you test this condition? How many hours have you flown with this
mod? Where did you purchase the fiber glass rod?
> Thanks to all who have quickly responded to my post.
> Remi
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| Subject: | Re: Jacking block |
Peter,
Thanks for that. I was playing with some alu angle too. The flat plate with holes
to fit the bolt heads sounds good.
Kevin
On Aug 12, 2012, at 3:00 AM, "p-a.austin" <p-a.austin@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> I feel a need for a small, light, jacking block to use with most any jack that
>> would be part of my tool kit in the aircraft.
>>
>> Kevin
>
> Kevin,
>
> I made one out of Aluminium flat plate and angle welded together, the flat plate
has 4 holes that fit tight over the heads of the 4 bolts on the front face
of the swing arm, the angle is welded to the flat plate so one face is parallel
to the ground to which is welded a small stud to centre and stop the jack
from slipping off. This arrangement will accommodate any scissor jack that all
cars now carry. The only thing you need to source locally if away from your
home field is the jack and blocks of wood to sit the jack on and the outriggers.
>
> Peter
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> ZK-ZEB
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This jacking block is clear at the other end of the spectrum from some of
the engineering marvels that have appeared on this thread, requiring just a
couple of pieces of scrap wood, a bit of hardware, and half an hour of work.
It has traveled around in N135TD for 11 years and 800 hours without ever
being used away from home, but it is worth the pound of extra weight in
reduced worry over having a flat at another airport. The idea is not
original with us, having been passed around the Europa group many years ago.
Dave DeFord
N135TD
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| Subject: | Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering |
Hi All.
Sorry Chaps i have never liked all flying tail planes, and for me i feel much safe
with a conventional tailplane and elevators.
Stabs have been around for a long time so proven safe , How ever i know i can fly
and land the conventional set up, on power and trim alone, if the elevator
cable detached ,
But i have a stab so will have to live with it, But then you could move on the
the T tail like the Tomahawk , dreadful aeroplane.
But thats my opinion.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Winching attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering |
Alan=0Aall depends who designed the airplane. There are badly designed tail
planes too.-=0AEuropa was well designed. Would'nt have been good with a t
ailplane, handling would have been compromised=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Aom: A
lan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0A=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com
=0ASent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 22:12=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Winching
attachment points to Tri Gear for Trailering=0A =0A--> Europa-List message
posted by: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0A=0AHi All.=0ASorry C
haps i have never liked all flying tail planes, and for me i feel much safe
with a conventional tailplane and elevators.=0AStabs have been around for
a long time so proven safe , How ever i know i can fly and land the convent
ional set up, on power and trim alone, if the elevator cable detached ,=0AB
ut i have a stab so will have to live with it,- But then you could move o
n the the T tail like the Tomahawk , dreadful aeroplane.=0ABut thats my opi
nion.=0AAlan=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.
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Hi,
Does anybody have a mod/ design for a vent that can easily be fitted to an
existing installation.
I believe the front screen is a structural component so can't be altered but
presumably the side screens could have a vent installed.
I believe that Spruce and Speciality sells design that can simply be bolted
into a circular hole cut through the Perspex.
For obvious reasons an approved mod would be preferred.
Thanks
Carl Pattinson
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