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1. 01:35 AM - Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab (Lance Sandford)
2. 01:47 AM - Landing Technique (John Greenhalgh)
3. 02:09 AM - Re: Arplast PV 50 Prop (Alan Carter)
4. 02:40 AM - Re: Landing Technique (David Joyce)
5. 03:23 AM - Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab (Alan Carter)
6. 03:37 AM - Re: Re: Arplast PV 50 Prop (Gilles Thesee)
7. 03:44 AM - Re: Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab (Duncan & Ami)
8. 04:26 AM - Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab (Robert Borger)
9. 07:07 AM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C2=A35?= and 50 minutes Control Lock (goff)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C2=A35?= and 50 minutes Control Lock (Alan Carter)
11. 11:52 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?SV:__Re:_=C2=A35_and_50_minutes_Control_Lock? (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
12. 12:48 PM - Re: Landing Technique (Alan Carter)
13. 02:55 PM - Re: Arplast PV 50 Prop (Alan Carter)
14. 03:38 PM - Mod 73 (egp8111)
15. 03:49 PM - Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab (phillik747)
16. 04:21 PM - Voltage Regulator (Paul McAllister)
17. 06:11 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator (Karl Heindl)
18. 07:28 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Keith Hickling)
19. 10:41 PM - Re: Voltage Regulator (Steven Pitt)
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab |
Bob
Maybe you will one day. I believe it is owned by an American so he will
take it home eventually.
Meanwhile have a look at this and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7vQOY3d89JE
Regards
Lance Sandford
On 30/09/12 12:02, Robert Borger wrote:
> Bill & Others,
>
> Dang! I was hoping that would be Ardmore, Oklahoma. Would I love to
> see that Mosquito fly in person.
>
> Blue skies & tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
> Cel: 817-992-1117
> rlborger@mac.com <mailto:rlborger@mac.com>
>
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| Subject: | Landing Technique |
My aircraft is a Trigear sorry not a Monowheel.
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| Subject: | Re: Arplast PV 50 Prop |
Hi.
Strange you should say that, a flock a microlights from France landed at Headcorn
yesterday, and some had fixed 6 bladed propellers.
Two 3s bolted together.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Technique |
John, then I wouldn't want to claim any expertise, but
would still go for 60kt approach & aiming to round out to
level 4 ft off ground.Regards, David
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:47:29 +0100
John Greenhalgh <john.greenhalgh1@sky.com> wrote:
> My aircraft is a Trigear sorry not a Monowheel.
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab |
Hi Sue and Bill, Howdy Bob.
What a lovely country you live in NZ, i visited a few years ago and it brought
back memory's of Old England , that a compliment.
My favourite Aeroplane, nothing could catch it in WW2, and the later version had
a pressurized cockpit, very tricky on one engine go around.
My neighbour now 95 was a Mossy Pilot, so i know a little about them.
We had one over here but crashed just after completion, over here they get the
Who you Knows to fly them, and Not the What you Knows so they crash.
Hope that's not the case in NZ.
My Trim, Yes a little bit of differential on the Flap would do it, but i don,t
know how to do it ?, as far as i know there is a Cross Bar into which the pins
on each flap locate into, so both move together,
so if say i physically restricted one flap slightly it would twist the cross bar
slight, not good, relocating the actual flap bracket and pin is OK, but i am
not up to that expertise.
So i was considering a fixed trim tab on the Flaps outer trailing edge but would
just the tab generate enough lift,?? ( i can manage to make and glue or should
i say bond a tab on)
I find i need this left rudder with one or two up
The rubber Bungee , is that,s just from the control stick to the centre tunnel,
to hold the stick slight over is that right. A fixed aileron tab would do this,
but i suppose a Bungee may be adjustable
Simple but maybe practical.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Arplast PV 50 Prop |
Alan Carter a crit :
>
> Hi.
> Strange you should say that, a flock a microlights from France landed at Headcorn
yesterday, and some had fixed 6 bladed propellers.
> Two 3s bolted together.
>
Hi Alan,
Supposing you're answering to the pros and cons of multblade props.
As you may already know, the presence of a device on a microlight is no
guarantee that there has been a proper engineering study beforehand.
I have already seen such a setup. I'd say it is just what it looks like
: two 3-blade props quickly bolted together...Do you really believe the
'designers' did any calculations, activity factor or disc load
computations ?
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab |
<<..if say i physically restricted one flap slightly it would twist the
cross bar slight, not good,>>
That situation is already built in to the design, because the actuating horn
welded to the cross bar is located off centre. Which (due to the elasticity
of the cross bar) results in the cross bar twisting and the port side
retracting slightly ahead of the s'bd side. So a thicker stop on the port
side will help to counter this when the flaps are in the retracted position.
Duncan McF.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
Sent: 30 September 2012 11:23
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab
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Hi Sue and Bill, Howdy Bob.
What a lovely country you live in NZ, i visited a few years ago and it
brought back memory's of Old England , that a compliment. My favourite
Aeroplane, nothing could catch it in WW2, and the later version had a
pressurized cockpit, very tricky on one engine go around. My neighbour now
95 was a Mossy Pilot, so i know a little about them. We had one over here
but crashed just after completion, over here they get the Who you Knows to
fly them, and Not the What you Knows so they crash. Hope that's not the case
in NZ.
My Trim, Yes a little bit of differential on the Flap would do it, but i
don,t know how to do it ?, as far as i know there is a Cross Bar into which
the pins on each flap locate into, so both move together, so if say i
physically restricted one flap slightly it would twist the cross bar slight,
not good, relocating the actual flap bracket and pin is OK, but i am not up
to that expertise.
So i was considering a fixed trim tab on the Flaps outer trailing edge but
would just the tab generate enough lift,?? ( i can manage to make and glue
or should i say bond a tab on) I find i need this left rudder with one or
two up
The rubber Bungee , is that,s just from the control stick to the centre
tunnel, to hold the stick slight over is that right. A fixed aileron tab
would do this, but i suppose a Bungee may be adjustable
Simple but maybe practical.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab |
Lance,
Wonderful! Thanks!
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Lance Sandford <sandford@melbpc.org.au> wrote:
Bob
Maybe you will one day. I believe it is owned by an American so he will take it
home eventually.
Meanwhile have a look at this and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7vQOY3d89JE
Regards
Lance Sandford
On 30/09/12 12:02, Robert Borger wrote:
> Bill & Others,
>
> Dang! I was hoping that would be Ardmore, Oklahoma. Would I love to see that
Mosquito fly in person.
>
> Blue skies & tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
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| Subject: | Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C2=A35?= and 50 minutes Control Lock |
Alan,
Could you post a picture of it in use, please?
Goff
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| Subject: | Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C2=A35?= and 50 minutes Control Lock |
Hi Goff.
It looks like a tow bar , if it was stronger it could do both but you would need
a new nose wheel axel.
However the yellow bars slide between and into each rudder pedal so locking them
together.
The other end of the long bar pushes up against the seat,( it does not have butt
against the seat , you could shorten it if you wanted) then the valkro strap
is place around the stick so locking the stabalator either in neutral or fully
down, and keeping the ailerons neutral.
Very useful, and very simple and cheap to make, so i posted it on the forum.
Will post a photo next time i get up the field.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: o-8859-1?Q?SV:_Europa-List:_Re:_=C2=A35_and_50_minutes_Control_Lock? |
Hi Alan,
Thanks vm for the information. This will be one of several winter projects,
I definitely need to replace the unsightly and clumsy control lock that I
have!
Regards,
Svein
LN-SKJ
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Technique |
Hello John,
Had a few small bounces at first, the aeroplane want to keep on flying,
I have only done about 30 hours on the Europa but finally have nailed how to land
it. This is how i do it.
Initially 65 kts then slow down to 60kts nice and stable aiming to keep a little
power on all the way down to round out, as you flare slowly close the throttle
and hold off, when you think the landings over its NOT, keep the stick coming
back and continue trying to fly the aeroplane and the wheels will gently touch
the runway, as the wheels touch the ground gently release some of the pressure
on the stick and apply the brakes,
If you bounce ( in a very rare case) just a little power to cushion it down.
If you ever you bounce 15 to 20 ft into the air, apply full power smoothly and
go around for another attempt.
I find the Europa,s Take Off Distance much shorter than the Landing Distance, so
beware if you ever do a force landing,
I can land a C150 on a postage stamp but this slippery beast takes more than you
think so keep the speeds really nailed .
Hope that's of help.
Alan.
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| Subject: | Re: Arplast PV 50 Prop |
Hello Gilles.
Do you really believe the
'designers' did any calculations, activity factor or disc load
computations ? Probably not, but Take a look at the Europe,s stabilator control
components did an engineer really design that load of holes pins nuts and washers
, I think we better stay with prop for now as i would like to start this
as a new topic later as it may bring a number of posts..
Regards
Alan
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I'm returning my early monowheel classic to flying status after a number of years
being inactive. Getting caught up on the mods. I'm in the process of doing
mod 73 the tailplane retention mod. Just a question for my clarification. Are
both the top and bottom pip pin holes on the torque tube elongated or just
the top ? I assume both top and bottom holes receive the same treatment but the
directions on the factory website leave me with just a bit of doubt. I tried
contacting Europa directly and got a nice email from someone saying she didn't
know but was passing my question on to the technical staff but thats the last
I have heard from them. Can someone clear this up for me please.
Thanks,
Skip Pate, Europa sr. # A009 monwheel classic 178 hr. TT first flown 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed Aileron Trim Tab |
I remember talking to Bud about this a few months ago and couldn't remember if I saw it somewhere else or not. However I did a quick search and found this post on www.europaowners.com
This should help get you in the right direction.
Bud Yerly wrote:
> Adjust the flap which is up too far with the set screw in the baggage
> bay (Custom Flight Mod) or by adding a shim to the back of the baggage
> bay and the flap tube through the hole in the side of the aircraft with
> thin wedges to shim the flaps 1/32nd of an inch to correct roll.
--------
Kyle
Europa Tri-gear (under construction)
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator |
Hi all,
Well after 1020 hours my Ducati regulator finally died and went to heaven.
Would anyone happen to know what the new price is for these regulators ?
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Voltage Regulator |
there is a price list for all rotax parts on lockwood-aviation.com.
Subject: Europa-List: Voltage Regulator
From: paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
Hi all=2C
Well after 1020 hours my Ducati regulator finally died and went to heaven.
Would anyone happen to know what the new price is for these regulators ?
Thanks=2C Paul
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I'm pretty sure you are correct, both top and bottom holes need to be
elongated, otherwise it would not achieve the purpose which is to prevent
torque loads from the torque tube being transmitted through the TP6 sleeve
with the possible result of disbonding. That is what I did.
Regards,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "egp8111" <egp8111@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:37 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 73
>
> I'm returning my early monowheel classic to flying status after a number
> of years being inactive. Getting caught up on the mods. I'm in the process
> of doing mod 73 the tailplane retention mod. Just a question for my
> clarification. Are both the top and bottom pip pin holes on the torque
> tube elongated or just the top ? I assume both top and bottom holes
> receive the same treatment but the directions on the factory website leave
> me with just a bit of doubt. I tried contacting Europa directly and got a
> nice email from someone saying she didn't know but was passing my question
> on to the technical staff but thats the last I have heard from them. Can
> someone clear this up for me please.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skip Pate, Europa sr. # A009 monwheel classic 178 hr. TT first flown 1996
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage Regulator |
Paul,
There is now a Club mod for the Schicke regulator instead of the Ducati.
See the club website and the mod is number SM12970.
Regards
Steve Pitt
Chairman, Europa Club
G-SMDH trigear XS 912S
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul McAllister
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 12:20 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Voltage Regulator
Hi all,
Well after 1020 hours my Ducati regulator finally died and went to
heaven. Would anyone happen to know what the new price is for these
regulators ?
Thanks, Paul
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