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1. 01:08 AM - Re: Auxiliary Power Supply (Brian Davies)
2. 01:55 AM - Re: Fw: Europa cooling (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
3. 01:56 AM - Re: Auxiliary Power Supply (Pete Lawless)
4. 02:16 AM - Re: Power Flarm antennas (Kevin Kedward)
5. 03:27 AM - Re: Auxiliary Power Supply (Alan Carter)
6. 04:22 AM - Re: Conversion Mono to Trike (DJGeldermann)
7. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Auxiliary Power Supply (Brian Davies)
8. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: Auxiliary Power Supply (danny shepherd)
9. 11:08 AM - Re: Re: New to List (Raimo Toivio)
10. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: New to List (Paul McAllister)
11. 01:52 PM - monowheel transition training (David DeFord)
12. 02:50 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Bud Yerly)
13. 03:25 PM - Out of service and missing Rough River (Bud Yerly)
14. 03:49 PM - Re: Out of service and missing Rough River (Garry Stout)
15. 05:22 PM - Re: Out of service and missing Rough River (Kingsley Hurst)
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| Subject: | Auxiliary Power Supply |
Hi Alan,
Although your plan would work it is not the best arrangement. On most
Europas there will be a positive supply electrical bus bar somewhere behind
the instrument panel that is controlled by a battery master switch. It would
be better to take a connection from there and use a panel mounted fuse or
circuit breaker to protect the wiring to the cigar lighter sockets. You
should also be able to find a negative bus bar or connection stud behind the
panel. The size of the cable and then the size of the fuse/ circuit breaker
will be determined by what you intend to connect to the sockets. If you are
not going to take more than 5amps you could use 22 gauge wire and a five amp
fuse. As you are planning to have two sockets it is probably best to use 20
gauge and maybe a 7 or 10 amp fuse.
It is important to be able to disconnect all electrical supplies in an
emergency so it is not good practice to connect things directly to the
battery.
Regards
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
Sent: 05 October 2012 23:13
Subject: Europa-List: Auxiliary Power Supply
--> <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
Hi All
I want to install two cigar lighter power supplies in the instrument panel.
Usage will mainly be to charge my iPad and Phone, or maybe other things.
I was planing to run a cable (aircraft cable ??? watts) directly from the
Battery + and return to the Battery - with an in-line fuse, Amps ???
The Battery is located in the rear fuselage .
Any Comments or Help.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Europa cooling |
Jeremy=0AIt's a well known phenomenon called "putting the aircraft on the s
tep". I think it's explained by the reduced power required when the aircraf
t slows down=0Acompared to that required to accelerate to cruise speed.=0AW
hen "on the step" the slightest clumsyness with the controls will cause a l
oss of a good 5 knots (with a monowheel) Noticed this when handing over to
the right hand seat man=0Awho kept the stick moving continouously, " that's
how I was taught to fly!"=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0A From: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.c
om =0ASent: Saturday, 6 October 2012, 3:06=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Fwd:
isher@gmail.com>=0A=0AFrans,=0A=0AI will probably regret this, but I will m
ake some guesses as to why climbing and then diving causes the speed to inc
rease.=0A=0AIt sounds to me as though you are seeing the airflow boundary l
ayer detaching early somewhere on the airframe at lower speed.- Then when
you accelerate after climbing then diving the flow is staying attached.-
I cannot think of anything else that would explain what you are describing
.- Early airflow separation can cause a considerable increase in drag.=0A
=0AThere may be another clue when you say that when you move the CG back, t
he speed increases to a point.- By doing this, you are decreasing longitu
dinal static stability, but also reducing the download on the tailplane (or
horizontal stab), causing a reduction in drag.- Once the tailplane is al
igned with the airflow, you have minimum drag from it.- Move the CG back
further the effect will taper off.=0A=0ASo it just could be that the airflo
w is detaching early on the lower surface of the tailplane in level flight
at your initial cruising speed, increasing drag.- By climbing, then accel
erating in a dive, you may be allowing the airflow to stay attached later o
n the tailplane, reducing the drag.- Then the reduced drag would allow yo
u to maintain the increased speed.- That is only a guess, and I have not
flown a Europa so am free to speak through ignorance!- You can check if I
am right by carefully measuring the fore and aft position of the stick bef
ore you start the climb, then again once it is back in level flight after t
he dive.- If it is slightly further forward after the dive, then this wou
ld confirm my guess.=0A=0AIf this does turn out to be the case, you might b
e able to delay the airflow separating by using small vortex generators on
the bottom of the tailplane.- An example for a different reason can be se
en on the Zenith STOL aircraft (to allow earlier rotation on take off).-
You can see this at http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/pic09/vg701elevator.
jpg .=0A=0ANow you can all tell me that I am wrong, and why!!- Not many G
A aircraft use an all-moving tail, and this may just be a side effect of th
at.=0A=0AJerry=0AOn Oct 5, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Frans Veldman wrote:=0A=0A> --
=0A> On 10/05/2012 07:56 PM, Jeremy Fisher wrote:=0A> =0A>> Thanks for pos
ting the photos.- That is an impressive scheme that you=0A>> created, esp
ecially as it obviously works.- As a matter of interest,=0A>> what differ
ence do you see in aircraft performance?- Your cooling=0A>> drag must be
well down on the standard scheme.=0A> =0A> I think it is, but of course it
is hard to measure and judge. We also=0A> have an efficient prop and Fred K
lein's wing root fairings. On the other=0A> hand the aircraft is a tri-gear
, hi-top, and quite heavy. We never flew=0A> with the stock cooling configu
ration, or without the wing root fairings,=0A> etc.=0A> We usually cruise w
ith 27" to 28" of manifold pressure, and see an IAS=0A> of about 130 knots
at MTOW. At 100% we see a speed of 157 knots.=0A> =0A> Usually at FL95 or s
o we see cruise speeds of 140-160 knots.=0A> =0A> Measuring speeds drive me
nuts. The aircraft seems to stick to a certain=0A> speed, but pull up, div
e down, and after the dive the aircraft maintains=0A> a much higher speed t
han before the dive. I have heard this from more=0A> people. Anyone who kno
ws the cause? And then it looks like more weight=0A> in the back is benefic
ial, but only to a certain point. I'm still at a=0A> loss about how to get
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| Subject: | Auxiliary Power Supply |
Morning Alan
When you take the panel out you should find a power and negative bus in the
back fed directly from the battery. I suggest you take the power from that
via a CB. Trouble with in line fuses in the back of the panel is that it
makes a big job just to change a fuse unless you have easy access.
Regards
Pete
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
Sent: 05 October 2012 23:13
Subject: Europa-List: Auxiliary Power Supply
Hi All
I want to install two cigar lighter power supplies in the instrument panel.
Usage will mainly be to charge my iPad and Phone, or maybe other things.
I was planing to run a cable (aircraft cable ??? watts) directly from the
Battery + and return to the Battery - with an in-line fuse, Amps ???
The Battery is located in the rear fuselage .
Any Comments or Help.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Power Flarm antennas |
Hi Michel,
I have Powerflarm Pcas mobile mounted on a RAM mount suctio
n cup on the windscreen to the left near to the doorframe. The anntena can t
hen stand vertical and work fine and is easy to see and use with no restrict
ion on my view. Powerflarm give's me firm contacts with ADS-B and Flarm equi
pped(plus gliders) aircraft with 360 deg position and altitude . Mode C & S a
re given range and relative altitude to you.When powerflarm is linked to my T
rig31 mode s transponder it will also give me ADS-B out.
Regards
Kevin.
Sent from my iPhone
On 6 Oct 2012, at 00:06, "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au> wrote:
> I have a full wave loop antenna, it fits neatly behind the baggage bay bul
khead. Inside the garage, doors closed
> With the airport 29.6km (according to google maps) off my starboard wing, t
he ATIS is so strong MAX squelch still
> Doesn=99t cut the transmission off. I am told that the reception sho
uld be degraded to port and starboard because of the loop giving
> Best reception/ trans through the hole in the middle (ie fore/aft), keep i
n mind that comm. Signals are vertically polarized so if your antenna
> Is laying flat on top of the panel the reception might be effected.
> Good luck
> craig
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mau11
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:22 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Power Flarm antennas
>
> Hi all,
> Does anyone have experience with powerFlarm?
>
> What is the best antennas position?
> I use one last week and I receive signal only when two antennas are in ver
tical position.
> When the powerflarm body is positioned on top of the panel below windscree
n, with antennas in 45=C2=B0 position no signal.
>
> Many thanks
> Michel AUVRAY
> F-PFGT - 145
>
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| Subject: | Re: Auxiliary Power Supply |
Good Morning to you Both.
Yes , that all makes good sense, and that,s what i will do.
I was a bit reluctant about going in behind the panel, but hopefully i will be
able to do it.
The making the new little panel plate and fixing i can manage ok.
I will make sure i use a good crimping tool, will post a photo when finished, but
allow up to six weeks.
Ps, Would like to find the approx 1/2"x1/2" square black push button CB to match
the ones i have, ?? have not seen any yet.
Regards
Alan
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| Subject: | Conversion Mono to Trike |
David,
I did a similar cover to what Bob has described. I can send you a few
pictures tomorrow if you send me your direct email.
Dan
Dan Geldermann
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Harrison
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Conversion Mono to Trike
Hi! David I made a "belly plate" but mostly from the piece which had been
cut out for the mono construction.
In fact most of my fuel system module is now fixed to it. Now I decided that
G-PTAG would never now fly (or attempt to fly!) as a mono !
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david park
Sent: 05 October 2012 19:26
Subject: Europa-List: Conversion Mono to Trike
Looking for ideas from anyone who has converted a Mono to a Trike u/c?
ie. How did you cover the Mono hole?
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Auxiliary Power Supply |
Alan,
Europa used to stock them- worth a try. They are also sold by RS (ETA 1100
series).
Regards
Brian
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
Sent: 06 October 2012 11:26
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Auxiliary Power Supply
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Good Morning to you Both.
Yes , that all makes good sense, and that,s what i will do.
I was a bit reluctant about going in behind the panel, but hopefully i will
be able to do it.
The making the new little panel plate and fixing i can manage ok.
I will make sure i use a good crimping tool, will post a photo when
finished, but allow up to six weeks.
Ps, Would like to find the approx 1/2"x1/2" square black push button CB to
match the ones i have, ?? have not seen any yet.
Regards
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Auxiliary Power Supply |
also trymatthew-russell-ltd.co.uk I bought some quite a few years ago.
I'm sure he still suplies them.
Rgd Danny G-ceri
On 06/10/2012 14:25, Brian Davies wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Europa used to stock them- worth a try. They are also sold by RS (ETA 1100
> series).
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
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> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
> Sent: 06 October 2012 11:26
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Auxiliary Power Supply
>
> --> <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
>
> Good Morning to you Both.
> Yes , that all makes good sense, and that,s what i will do.
> I was a bit reluctant about going in behind the panel, but hopefully i will
> be able to do it.
> The making the new little panel plate and fixing i can manage ok.
> I will make sure i use a good crimping tool, will post a photo when
> finished, but allow up to six weeks.
> Ps, Would like to find the approx 1/2"x1/2" square black push button CB to
> match the ones i have, ?? have not seen any yet.
> Regards
> Alan
>
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Remi,
please remember *not any more* reality with modern high-class oils *AND *it
is better to get oil temp over +100C at least once during a flight to boil
moisture out.
My oil & water temps - as I thinks also Frans have - are always in the
green arc. Some people think what cooler that better - that is not reality
even with my wife.
Cheers, Raimo
2012/10/6 Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>
> Frans and Raimo,
> Thank you for your detailed answers regarding the Laminova. So you are
> both running with oil and coolant temperatures close to the red lines. Ke
ep
> in mind that high coolant temp/CHT reduce your margin against detonation
> and high oil temp reduces the viscosity and makes the oil to age quicker,
> both factors affecting the lubricant properties.
> I would not be comfortable flying continuously with such high temperature
s.
> Remi
>
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Hi all,
Just to add to Fran's & Raimo's data. For a day 30c day I typically see
coolant/oil at 105/110 in cruise. With the last round of cowling
modifications I can now cruise climb at 30" / 100kts to 10,000' before I
reach 115c on my coolant.
Although I am some what happy with these numbers I am looking to be able to
reliably do this with the OAT at 35c and I haven't achieved this goal yet.
I am using a C45 x 180 Laminova.
Regards, Paul
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| Subject: | monowheel transition training |
Does anyone know of someone in North America who does monowheel transition
training? My son would like to get checked out in my airplane, and I am not
up to the job myself. On the other hand, it wouldn't make such a bad
excuse for a trip to the UK...
Dave DeFord
N135TD
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Regarding Mod 73 and SB15
Sorry I have been out of touch...More on that some other day.
Mod 73 is elongated on the top and bottom. However in reality the
bottom hole is not as critical and many of you still have a round 1/4 to
retain the pip pin ball retainers and have had no problem, but it should
be elongated just a bit top and bottom.
The reason the lower hole not being elongated doesn't cause an issue is
that the loose tailplane is going to move but the pin itself with only
one hole elongated will still allow sufficient small movement of the
tailplane and its TP6 bushing glued in to move so as not to crack the
bearing free. Unless your tailplanes flop about independently a lot.
Only the underside of the TP5 with its mandated extra glass retains the
pin in this modification. However, the pip pin is normally not long
enough for the added glass work, (Note the epoxy and glass should not be
relieved in the vicinity of the hole to allow the retaining balls to
catch and retain the existing pin, you must buy a longer pin (2 inch
works)). Note SB 15 must be followed to remove all play in the
tailplane pitch tube system along with this mod.
That said, let me say this. No movement of the tail plane should be
noticed at the trailing edge. Nor should the stab move independently of
the mass balance arm. The inspection documentation only states:
* Tab drive pin and bracket for corrosion, cracking.
* Main tailplane bushes for security and cleanliness.
* Tailplane drive bushes in inboard rib for wear and security.
A small amount of bushing wear and pin fit will allow the tailplane to
move no more than 1/64 inch at the rear and in a properly built
tailplane, the stabs when gripped at the trailing edge will not move
independently from one another at all. If they do, something is worn or
built incorrectly. Any tailplane movement will, due to the fact the
physical tail plane is not balanced, flutter unless it is secured
soundly through the TP13 bushes to the drive pins and the drive
mechanism is soundly attached to the TP4 tube and mass balance arm via
the TP14s. Hence Mod 73 is a Band-Aid, to the real problem of sloppy
TP14 pins and TP13 bushes.
The real fix is to do the work right. TP14 pin installation to a tight
fit is essential. The PFA mod 10672 bonding in the bushes was a
terrific idea to prevent many problems, from TP5 de-bonding, to foam
protection from lubrication and a more sound TP5 adhesion to the foam
stab core and ply rib. Many of you have installed a threaded cap for an
additional safety lock for the tailplane pip pin. Extra glass was added
in doing this and frankly cured part of the problem of the TP5
retention. Accidents tend to cause Band-Aid solutions. I know I have
beat a dead horse on TP14 pin installation techniques in the past.
However, the SB15 Loctite solution is a quick and easy fix to slightly
loose pins and makes the TP12 and TP9 retention problems go away. Also
some of you developed clever clamping fixtures to secure the drives to
the tubes which was another mechanical solution that worked. (By the
way, don't get the Loctite 603 into the pitch bearings, that stuff
really works.) The Band-Aid solution to prevent one part of the problem
for he who does not understand that any movement of the stab due to
excessive play or wear in any part of the stabilator control system is
reason to ground the aircraft until corrective action is made.
So to cause trouble:
The TP14 C and D pins should not allow the TP12 or TP9 to move on the
TP4 Tube at all. That said, most builders note that a small ticking
sound but no perceptible movement of the TP12 or 9 is noticed on annual
inspections as the plane ages with no modification. Once the movement
begins though, it gets worse. Any perceptible movement indicates SB 15
is needed and cures the problem...
I know that in the past the factory suggested up to 1/2 inch movement of
a tail plane was acceptable, but that means you have a known flutter
problem and are flying with a known malfunction in a flight control
system. In the 80 HP aircraft flying at or near 100 Kts it is not a
problem, but in a dive to VNE, flutter is a very real concern. I have
had to rebuild 4 stabilators due to this type wear. The pilots never
realized that they had movement nor did they know how to check. Flutter
clearly occurred as the wear on the TP13s was evident as well as flat
spots in the TP14 pins, however the TP5 was undamaged. The preflight
check for proper fit and security is quite simple and must be done on
each preflight. Grasp the stabilator at the trailing edge and pull up
lightly to put the mass balance weight on the stop. With the mass
balance arm against the stop pull up and check if the tailplane moves
beyond the clunk of the mass balance stop (Checks TP9 and 12 Pins). No
movement should occur on either the up or down stop. At the leading
edge of the stab grab the leading edge of both stabilators and attempt
to move them up and down independently or if you have longer arms from
the trailing edge, move the stabs by gripping the trailing edge outboard
of the tabs and moving them one up and one down and vice versa to check
for independent movement of the stabs between one another. (Checks
TP12s)
Keep it tight and right
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
Tech Support
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From: Keith Hickling<mailto:keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73
<keithhickling@clear.net.nz<mailto:keithhickling@clear.net.nz>>
I'm pretty sure you are correct, both top and bottom holes need to be
elongated, otherwise it would not achieve the purpose which is to
prevent
torque loads from the torque tube being transmitted through the TP6
sleeve
with the possible result of disbonding. That is what I did.
Regards,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
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From: "egp8111" <egp8111@aol.com<mailto:egp8111@aol.com>>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 11:37 AM
To: <europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>>
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 73
<egp8111@aol.com<mailto:egp8111@aol.com>>
>
> I'm returning my early monowheel classic to flying status after a
number
> of years being inactive. Getting caught up on the mods. I'm in the
process
> of doing mod 73 the tailplane retention mod. Just a question for my
> clarification. Are both the top and bottom pip pin holes on the
torque
> tube elongated or just the top ? I assume both top and bottom holes
> receive the same treatment but the directions on the factory website
leave
> me with just a bit of doubt. I tried contacting Europa directly and
got a
> nice email from someone saying she didn't know but was passing my
question
> on to the technical staff but thats the last I have heard from them.
Can
> someone clear this up for me please.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Skip Pate, Europa sr. # A009 monwheel classic 178 hr. TT first flown
1996
>
>
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| Subject: | Out of service and missing Rough River |
I hate to admit I am getting a bit old.
I have the been diagnosed with prostate cancer. We should have caught
it earlier but that is life. I have been going through biopsies, cat
scans, bone scans, and had folks violating my body in new and unusual
ways for the last month and have a bit more to do to check all the
avenues of spread. I know I could never be a gay person now.
Good news is I have great doctors and facilities, good insurance, and
have had to learn patience with those who practice medicine. I have
learned that health insurance professionals / death board members
require more of my attention than the doctors (and I found it difficult
not to be cranky with them). My prognosis is full recovery after a few
months of discomfort and more tests. I understand that it is difficult
to sleep when your groin glows in the dark. We shall see.
So you guys lucky enough to be at Rough River, I envy you and will miss
an opportunity to bore you to death.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
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| Subject: | Out of service and missing Rough River |
Bud I am so sorry to hear of your trials. I am glad however to see you
still have your sense of humor....the "groin glows in the dark" comment put
me on the floor laughing. I wish you the very best for a speedy and full
recovery.
Garry Stout
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bud Yerly
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:25 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Out of service and missing Rough River
I hate to admit I am getting a bit old.
I have the been diagnosed with prostate cancer. We should have caught it
earlier but that is life. I have been going through biopsies, cat scans,
bone scans, and had folks violating my body in new and unusual ways for the
last month and have a bit more to do to check all the avenues of spread. I
know I could never be a gay person now.
Good news is I have great doctors and facilities, good insurance, and have
had to learn patience with those who practice medicine. I have learned that
health insurance professionals / death board members require more of my
attention than the doctors (and I found it difficult not to be cranky with
them). My prognosis is full recovery after a few months of discomfort and
more tests. I understand that it is difficult to sleep when your groin
glows in the dark. We shall see.
So you guys lucky enough to be at Rough River, I envy you and will miss an
opportunity to bore you to death.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
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| Subject: | Re: Out of service and missing Rough River |
Dear Bud,
Very sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations and can emphasise with yo
u although my prognosis was thankfully all clear.
One day in the hospital after an inspection with "the finger" when I thought
the Urologist had vacated the room, I remarked to the chap in the bed besid
e me how I HATE that feeling. =46rom behind a curtain where the Urologist wa
s still washing his hands came the comment ....... "I've never had anyone as
k for a second go!"
Sincerely now, I do hope all goes well for you and I look forward to your co
ntinued participation on the forum for a long time to come.
All the best Bud
Kingsley in Oz.
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Sent from my iPhone
On 07/10/2012, at 9:25 AM, "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
> I hate to admit I am getting a bit old.
> I have the been diagnosed with prostate cancer. We should have caught it e
arlier but that is life. I have been going through biopsies, cat scans, bon
e scans, and had folks violating my body in new and unusual ways for the las
t month and have a bit more to do to check all the avenues of spread. I kn
ow I could never be a gay person now.
>
> Good news is I have great doctors and facilities, good insurance, and have
had to learn patience with those who practice medicine. I have learned tha
t health insurance professionals / death board members require more of my at
tention than the doctors (and I found it difficult not to be cranky with the
m). My prognosis is full recovery after a few months of discomfort and more
tests. I understand that it is difficult to sleep when your groin glows in
the dark. We shall see.
>
> So you guys lucky enough to be at Rough River, I envy you and will miss an
opportunity to bore you to death.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
>
> Don't Archive
>
>
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