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     1. 08:09 AM - UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale (Mark Burton)
     2. 11:35 AM - AW: Out of service and missing Rough River (A. Buess - Aviatik)
     3. 01:01 PM - Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale (zwakie)
     4. 02:22 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Alan Carter)
     5. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Mod 73 (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale | 
      
      
      Hi,
      
      I have an Arplast PV50 VP prop (narrow blades) that is surplus to requirements.
      It has done 410 hours and is in basically sound condition. Some minor dings on
      the blades but nothing major. It hasn't been used since 2007 so it probably
      should be serviced before being used again. I have tested that the motor works
      and it can move between the pitch limits. It's offered for sale with the Arplast
      "piano wire through the prop shaft" mechanism and a spare motor and gearbox
      but no electronics. The price is 1000 GBP (no VAT). If you are interested, please
      call me on 07851 578 537.
      
      Cheers,
      
      Mark
      
      PS I also have a classic Europa spinner with CF backplate.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385001#385001
      
      
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| Subject:  | Out of service and missing Rough River | 
      
      Bud,
      
      So sorry to hear about your diagnosis. But chin up: you have a lot of mental
      support from all over the world. Been there done that twelve years ago, just
      after buying my Europa kit. Now I am fully recovered and close to completion
      of the aircraft. Some histories of men and aircraft are twisty. Stay focused
      to the target of full recovery!
      
      Best regards,
      
      Alfred
      
      --------------------------------------------------
      
      Alfred Buess, Europa XS HB-YKI
      
      Spiez, Switzerland
      
      
      Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Dale Hetrick
      Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2012 18:30
      An: europa-list@matronics.com
      Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Out of service and missing Rough River
      
      
      Bud,
      
      Really sorry to hear about your prostate problem.  I went through the same
      diagnosis some years ago and opted to have it removed. Best decision ever
      made since I'm still around to talk about sex (but can't do anything about
      it!)
      
      Good Luck and best regards,
      
      Dale Hetrick
      
      (I sold my Europa last year)
      
      On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
      
      I hate to admit I am getting a bit old.
      
      I have the been diagnosed with prostate cancer.  We should have caught it
      earlier but that is life.  I have been going through biopsies, cat scans,
      bone scans, and had folks violating my body in new and unusual ways for the
      last month and have a bit more to do to check all the avenues of spread.  I
      know I could never be a gay person now.   
      
      
      Good news is I have great doctors and facilities, good insurance, and have
      had to learn patience with those who practice medicine.  I have learned that
      health insurance professionals / death board members require more of my
      attention than the doctors (and I found it difficult not to be cranky with
      them).  My prognosis is full recovery after a few months of discomfort and
      more tests.  I understand that it is difficult to sleep when your groin
      glows in the dark.  We shall see.
      
      
      So you guys lucky enough to be at Rough River, I envy you and will miss an
      opportunity to bore you to death.  
      
      
      Regards,
      
      Bud Yerly
      
      
      Don't Archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale | 
      
      
      Hi Mark,
      
      I might be interested... what diameter does it have?
      
      BR
      Marcel
      
      --------
      Marcel Zwakenberg
      (Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW)
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385011#385011
      
      
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      Hello Graham.
      I went up to Headcorn today and carried out the checks as Bud listed.
      I got behind the rudder tilted it to one side and more or less did the splits with
      my legs and could just reach the Stab beyond the trim.
      You really do need long arm,s, i moved the Stab to each stop and applied the one
      up and one down twisting pressure, and to my relief i found no movement.
      Then at the ends of the Stab i applied horizontal fore and aft movement, very small
      about 1/64" hardly detectable.
      Pull the Stab towards and way from me again no movement,
      The pipe pins that hold the Stab on the torque tube are located under an alloy
      cover plate , Maybe a perspex cover would be better so you can see them.? (as
      i remember the pins are long with the little retaining balls well below the tube.,
      and would hit against the cover plate before coming out.)
      I found slight play on the Stab Trim pin, i checked 7 Europa,s at Popham and found
      all the same amount of play, only one had no play.
      I then went to the joy stick here i found a clunk click ie some playA.
      I measured this at the top of the joystick and would say you could wobble it fore
      and aft, with a total play of between 4 to 5 mm before stab moved.
      How much if any should i have,?
      
      Alan
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385012#385012
      
      
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      Alan=0Athat sounds OK to me.-=0ATry and visualize what you are testing. T
      hese various backlash conditions are the result of -accumulation-of the
       backlash in a series of connections,-=0Athere are the pins that hold the
       tailplanes on (pip pins) then the ones that fix the drive-plates to the 
      torque tube. Next the ones that lock the assembly-=0Athat connects the pu
      sh rod to the torque tube. After that the various rod end fittings-betwee
      n there and the stick. You need to monitor the wear and tear of all the rod
       end fittings too.=0ASounds complicated but you must learn to understand yo
      ur airplane; it will talk to you but usually it doesn't speak loudly so you
       have to listen carefully.=0AMost things change gradually and that's what y
      our are trying to monitor.-=0AAll aircraft are like this but home/amateur
       built ones are more susceptible than store bought ones because they are "e
      xperimental" and also built down to a price!=0AThat's the reason the ones t
      hat survive the test of time-usually-perform a lot better than-produc
      tion-designs which get no improvement after-=0Athey enter the market, t
      heir design and-development-is-frozen-at that-point-because of 
      the excessive burocratic load of incorporating=0Aeven the simplest improvem
      ent.=0AIMVHO=0AGraham=0ABud, get better soon, we need you, you're much bett
      er at this than I am !{{:-)-=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A 
      From: Alan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.co
      m =0ASent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 22:21=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Mod 7
      tel.net>=0A=0AHello Graham.=0AI went up to Headcorn today and carried out t
      he checks as Bud listed.=0AI got behind the rudder tilted it to one side an
      d more or less did the splits with my legs and could just reach the Stab be
      yond the trim.=0AYou really do need long arm,s, i moved the Stab to each st
      op and applied the one up and one down twisting pressure, and to my relief 
      i found no movement.=0AThen at the ends of the Stab i applied horizontal fo
      re and aft movement, very small about 1/64" hardly detectable.=0APull the S
      tab towards and way from me again no movement,=0AThe pipe pins that hold th
      e Stab on the torque tube are located under an alloy cover plate , Maybe a 
      perspex cover would be better so you can see them.? (as i remember the pins
       are long with the little retaining balls well below the tube., and would h
      it against the cover plate before coming out.)=0AI found slight play on the
       Stab Trim pin, i checked 7 Europa,s at Popham and found all the same amoun
      t of play, only one had no play.=0AI then went to the joy stick here i foun
      d a clunk click ie some playA.=0AI measured this at the top of the joystick
       and would say you could wobble it fore and aft, with a total play of betwe
      en 4 to 5 mm before stab moved.=0AHow much if any should i have,?=0A=0AAlan
      =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.co
      =- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
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