---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/09/12: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:09 AM - UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale (Mark Burton) 2. 11:35 AM - AW: Out of service and missing Rough River (A. Buess - Aviatik) 3. 01:01 PM - Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale (zwakie) 4. 02:22 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Alan Carter) 5. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Mod 73 (GRAHAM SINGLETON) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:00 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale From: "Mark Burton" Hi, I have an Arplast PV50 VP prop (narrow blades) that is surplus to requirements. It has done 410 hours and is in basically sound condition. Some minor dings on the blades but nothing major. It hasn't been used since 2007 so it probably should be serviced before being used again. I have tested that the motor works and it can move between the pitch limits. It's offered for sale with the Arplast "piano wire through the prop shaft" mechanism and a spare motor and gearbox but no electronics. The price is 1000 GBP (no VAT). If you are interested, please call me on 07851 578 537. Cheers, Mark PS I also have a classic Europa spinner with CF backplate. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385001#385001 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:30 AM PST US From: "A. Buess - Aviatik" Subject: AW: Europa-List: Out of service and missing Rough River Bud, So sorry to hear about your diagnosis. But chin up: you have a lot of mental support from all over the world. Been there done that twelve years ago, just after buying my Europa kit. Now I am fully recovered and close to completion of the aircraft. Some histories of men and aircraft are twisty. Stay focused to the target of full recovery! Best regards, Alfred -------------------------------------------------- Alfred Buess, Europa XS HB-YKI Spiez, Switzerland Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Dale Hetrick Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2012 18:30 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Out of service and missing Rough River Bud, Really sorry to hear about your prostate problem. I went through the same diagnosis some years ago and opted to have it removed. Best decision ever made since I'm still around to talk about sex (but can't do anything about it!) Good Luck and best regards, Dale Hetrick (I sold my Europa last year) On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: I hate to admit I am getting a bit old. I have the been diagnosed with prostate cancer. We should have caught it earlier but that is life. I have been going through biopsies, cat scans, bone scans, and had folks violating my body in new and unusual ways for the last month and have a bit more to do to check all the avenues of spread. I know I could never be a gay person now. Good news is I have great doctors and facilities, good insurance, and have had to learn patience with those who practice medicine. I have learned that health insurance professionals / death board members require more of my attention than the doctors (and I found it difficult not to be cranky with them). My prognosis is full recovery after a few months of discomfort and more tests. I understand that it is difficult to sleep when your groin glows in the dark. We shall see. So you guys lucky enough to be at Rough River, I envy you and will miss an opportunity to bore you to death. Regards, Bud Yerly Don't Archive arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:12 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale From: "zwakie" Hi Mark, I might be interested... what diameter does it have? BR Marcel -------- Marcel Zwakenberg (Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385011#385011 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:30 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mod 73 From: "Alan Carter" Hello Graham. I went up to Headcorn today and carried out the checks as Bud listed. I got behind the rudder tilted it to one side and more or less did the splits with my legs and could just reach the Stab beyond the trim. You really do need long arm,s, i moved the Stab to each stop and applied the one up and one down twisting pressure, and to my relief i found no movement. Then at the ends of the Stab i applied horizontal fore and aft movement, very small about 1/64" hardly detectable. Pull the Stab towards and way from me again no movement, The pipe pins that hold the Stab on the torque tube are located under an alloy cover plate , Maybe a perspex cover would be better so you can see them.? (as i remember the pins are long with the little retaining balls well below the tube., and would hit against the cover plate before coming out.) I found slight play on the Stab Trim pin, i checked 7 Europa,s at Popham and found all the same amount of play, only one had no play. I then went to the joy stick here i found a clunk click ie some playA. I measured this at the top of the joystick and would say you could wobble it fore and aft, with a total play of between 4 to 5 mm before stab moved. How much if any should i have,? Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385012#385012 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:12 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mod 73 Alan=0Athat sounds OK to me.-=0ATry and visualize what you are testing. T hese various backlash conditions are the result of -accumulation-of the backlash in a series of connections,-=0Athere are the pins that hold the tailplanes on (pip pins) then the ones that fix the drive-plates to the torque tube. Next the ones that lock the assembly-=0Athat connects the pu sh rod to the torque tube. After that the various rod end fittings-betwee n there and the stick. You need to monitor the wear and tear of all the rod end fittings too.=0ASounds complicated but you must learn to understand yo ur airplane; it will talk to you but usually it doesn't speak loudly so you have to listen carefully.=0AMost things change gradually and that's what y our are trying to monitor.-=0AAll aircraft are like this but home/amateur built ones are more susceptible than store bought ones because they are "e xperimental" and also built down to a price!=0AThat's the reason the ones t hat survive the test of time-usually-perform a lot better than-produc tion-designs which get no improvement after-=0Athey enter the market, t heir design and-development-is-frozen-at that-point-because of the excessive burocratic load of incorporating=0Aeven the simplest improvem ent.=0AIMVHO=0AGraham=0ABud, get better soon, we need you, you're much bett er at this than I am !{{:-)-=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Alan Carter =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.co m =0ASent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 22:21=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Mod 7 tel.net>=0A=0AHello Graham.=0AI went up to Headcorn today and carried out t he checks as Bud listed.=0AI got behind the rudder tilted it to one side an d more or less did the splits with my legs and could just reach the Stab be yond the trim.=0AYou really do need long arm,s, i moved the Stab to each st op and applied the one up and one down twisting pressure, and to my relief i found no movement.=0AThen at the ends of the Stab i applied horizontal fo re and aft movement, very small about 1/64" hardly detectable.=0APull the S tab towards and way from me again no movement,=0AThe pipe pins that hold th e Stab on the torque tube are located under an alloy cover plate , Maybe a perspex cover would be better so you can see them.? (as i remember the pins are long with the little retaining balls well below the tube., and would h it against the cover plate before coming out.)=0AI found slight play on the Stab Trim pin, i checked 7 Europa,s at Popham and found all the same amoun t of play, only one had no play.=0AI then went to the joy stick here i foun d a clunk click ie some playA.=0AI measured this at the top of the joystick and would say you could wobble it fore and aft, with a total play of betwe en 4 to 5 mm before stab moved.=0AHow much if any should i have,?=0A=0AAlan =0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.co =- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle ======== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.