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1. 12:36 AM - "Flying a Europa over water" (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
2. 12:48 AM - Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale (Mark Burton)
3. 03:06 AM - Re: "Flying a Europa over water" (David Joyce)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: monowheel transition training (Robert Borger)
5. 12:26 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Alan Carter)
6. 12:43 PM - Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale (zwakie)
7. 12:47 PM - Re: "Flying a Europa over water" (zwakie)
8. 01:54 PM - Bud (Richard Collings)
9. 01:54 PM - Bud (Richard Collings)
10. 03:06 PM - Re: Re: Mod 73 (Brian Davies)
11. 03:40 PM - Re: Re: Mod 73 (Trevpond@aol.com)
12. 03:54 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Alan Carter)
13. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: Mod 73 (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
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| Subject: | "Flying a Europa over water" |
Thank you very much, David (Joyce), for the very comprehensive and
well-written article on flying over water in the most recent issue of The
Europa Flyer magazine.
Many valuable points regarding ditching and equipment that may save one's
life.
It makes landing in lakes and rivers appear much more "attractive" than
before as an alternative to rocks and trees, provided a life jacket is worn.
I will definitely consider to wear it all the time.
Regards
Svein
LN-SKJ
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| Subject: | Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale |
Hi Marcel,
It's 162 cm (64 inches).
Cheers,
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: "Flying a Europa over water" |
Svein, Thanks for the kind words. A large study in the
States had shown a mortality of landing in trees of around
10% - that is much the same as their raw mortality for
ditching, but there were understanably a lot more broken
bones and wearing a lifejacket did not help much in the
trees!
regards, David Joyce
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:35:51 +0200
"Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
wrote:
> Thank you very much, David (Joyce), for the very
>comprehensive and
> well-written article on flying over water in the most
>recent issue of The
> Europa Flyer magazine.
>
>
>
> Many valuable points regarding ditching and equipment
>that may save one's
> life.
>
>
>
> It makes landing in lakes and rivers appear much more
>"attractive" than
> before as an alternative to rocks and trees, provided a
>life jacket is worn.
> I will definitely consider to wear it all the time.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Svein
>
> LN-SKJ
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: monowheel transition training |
Dave,
I am discussing the possibility of a friend of mine doing your son's checkout.
He's the fellow who did the first flight of my Europa monowheel and he did several
hours of dual with me as well. He's a 20 year Reserve x-Navy fighter pilot
in F-8 & A-7 with 2 tours in Viet Nam and a long career as Captain for Southwest.
He owns and flies a Bonanza, RV-7, Little Toot Sport Biplane & Stearman.
He's the best pilot I have ever known. Only issue, you'd have to fly your
son and Europa here for the checkout.
Are you interested?
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Oct 6, 2012, at 3:51 PM, David DeFord <deford.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know of someone in North America who does monowheel transition training?
My son would like to get checked out in my airplane, and I am not up to
the job myself. On the other hand, it wouldn't make such a bad excuse for a
trip to the UK...
Dave DeFord
N135TD
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Hi Graham and All.
Bud i did not know you have been unwell. Hope you recover soon and see you back
on the Forum.
Graham I was on my own yesterday when i carried out buds checks,
I also tried moving the tail planes deferentially from the in front again no movement.
You can not do this test by yourself and get a proper result.
Today i rechecked the tail plan with another person holding one of the Stabalator
planes down against the stops, while i twisted the other,
I found it moved about 3/8 to 1/2", The Night Mare Begins.
Mod 73 is signed in the log at 18/08/2007 at 165 Hours today it has done 358 hours.
The Band Aid Fix , well Bud you are spot on, and i reckon there will be a lot more
Europas the same.
I think of the plane as know grounded or just a positioning flight.
Can anybody help , (Aircraft is in the UK)
What should i do now,?
Is there somebody i can contact to come and fix it,?
Is there a place i could take the aircraft to, for repair.?
Or do i poor in more Loctite which seems a crude way to fix such a vital component.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: UK - Pre-loved Arplast PV50 For Sale |
Mark, I just sent you an e-mail.
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Marcel Zwakenberg
(Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW)
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| Subject: | Re: "Flying a Europa over water" |
David, I found the information you gave all of us very worthwhile reading. It gave
me some food for thought...
Thanks!
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Marcel Zwakenberg
(Europa Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW)
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To Bud. I have throughout my truncated build [7 years] always taken note
of your informed and beautifully articulated prose, the subject matter
always interesting the value immense.
5 years ago I was subjected to the same indignities and in "that test"
scored 10 out of 10 something I have never managed to do in
schooling.The only option for me was radiotherapy or an op, I chose the
latter after long discussions with my wife and doctors. All went well I
recovered and just regained my PPL in time to be diagnosed with
Leukaemia, that took a little longer to sort!
My very best wishes, I am sure that with your laconic humour you will
come through and will like me have met and enjoyed the company of some
very remarkable people in the medical world.
Richard Collings
Europa Tri-gear
912ul Woodcomp wigglely prop
25 Hrs and learning fast
P.S I have just managed to get the CAA to lift the restriction on my
licence after 3 years and a very special German gentleman who donated
his bone marrow.
RWC
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To Bud. I have throughout my truncated build [7 years] always taken note
of your informed and beautifully articulated prose, the subject matter
always interesting the value immense.
5 years ago I was subjected to the same indignities and in "that test"
scored 10 out of 10 something I have never managed to do in
schooling.The only option for me was radiotherapy or an op, I chose the
latter after long discussions with my wife and doctors. All went well I
recovered and just regained my PPL in time to be diagnosed with
Leukaemia, that took a little longer to sort!
My very best wishes, I am sure that with your laconic humour you will
come through and will like me have met and enjoyed the company of some
very remarkable people in the medical world.
Richard Collings
Europa Tri-gear
912ul Woodcomp wigglely prop
25 Hrs and learning fast
P.S I have just managed to get the CAA to lift the restriction on my
licence after 3 years and a very special German gentleman who donated
his bone marrow.
RWC
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Alan,
As discussed previously, get a Europa experienced LAA inspector to take a
look at it. It is important not to confuse flexing with play. If there is
play you will feel/hear a distinct "clunk".
Regards
Brian Davies
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter
Sent: 10 October 2012 20:25
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mod 73
--> <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
Hi Graham and All.
Bud i did not know you have been unwell. Hope you recover soon and see you
back on the Forum.
Graham I was on my own yesterday when i carried out buds checks, I also
tried moving the tail planes deferentially from the in front again no
movement.
You can not do this test by yourself and get a proper result.
Today i rechecked the tail plan with another person holding one of the
Stabalator planes down against the stops, while i twisted the other, I found
it moved about 3/8 to 1/2", The Night Mare Begins.
Mod 73 is signed in the log at 18/08/2007 at 165 Hours today it has done 358
hours.
The Band Aid Fix , well Bud you are spot on, and i reckon there will be a
lot more Europas the same.
I think of the plane as know grounded or just a positioning flight.
Can anybody help , (Aircraft is in the UK) What should i do now,?
Is there somebody i can contact to come and fix it,?
Is there a place i could take the aircraft to, for repair.?
Or do i poor in more Loctite which seems a crude way to fix such a vital
component.
Alan
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Alan,
Email Nev Eyre, he has a super workshop and will fix it correctly.
regards
Trev
G-LINN
In a message dated 10/10/2012 20:26:29 GMT Daylight Time,
alancarteresq@onetel.net writes:
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Carter"
<alancarteresq@onetel.net>
Hi Graham and All.
Bud i did not know you have been unwell. Hope you recover soon and see you
back on the Forum.
Graham I was on my own yesterday when i carried out buds checks,
I also tried moving the tail planes deferentially from the in front again
no movement.
You can not do this test by yourself and get a proper result.
Today i rechecked the tail plan with another person holding one of the
Stabalator planes down against the stops, while i twisted the other,
I found it moved about 3/8 to 1/2", The Night Mare Begins.
Mod 73 is signed in the log at 18/08/2007 at 165 Hours today it has done
358 hours.
The Band Aid Fix , well Bud you are spot on, and i reckon there will be a
lot more Europas the same.
I think of the plane as know grounded or just a positioning flight.
Can anybody help , (Aircraft is in the UK)
What should i do now,?
Is there somebody i can contact to come and fix it,?
Is there a place i could take the aircraft to, for repair.?
Or do i poor in more Loctite which seems a crude way to fix such a vital
component.
Alan
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Hi Brian.
To me it feels like play, i will check again, and slide the Stablators off and
check inserts making sure they are bonded.
I am just a pilot but i could have done a better job in designing this linkage.
As this has the possibility of grounding the aircraft for some considerable time,
due to the fact that clamps are individually made to size, Why has,t something
not been done about it.??
Why can,t you get a complete unit with clamps already made, so the job could be
done in one go, say a day, not grounded for 2 months.
Alan
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Alan=0AI was thinking about what I told you and I'm sorry, I missed somethi
ng out. To check for play you should remove the pip pins, the play you are
looking for is in the pins that hold the drive plates to the torque tube.
=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Alan Carter <al
ancarteresq@onetel.net>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday,
10 October 2012, 20:24=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Mod 73=0A =0A--> Europa
-List message posted by: "Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0A=0AHi G
raham and All.=0ABud i did not know you have been unwell. Hope you recover
soon and see you back on the Forum.=0AGraham I was on my own yesterday when
i carried out buds checks,=0AI also tried moving the tail planes deferenti
ally from the in front again no movement.=0AYou can not do this test by you
rself and get a proper result.=0AToday i rechecked the tail plan with anoth
er person holding one of the Stabalator planes down against the stops, whil
e i twisted the other, =0AI found it moved about 3/8 to 1/2", The Night Mar
e Begins.=0AMod 73 is signed in the log at 18/08/2007 at 165 Hours today it
has done 358 hours.=0AThe Band Aid Fix , well Bud you are spot on, and i r
eckon there will be a lot more Europas the same.=0AI think of the plane as
know grounded or just a positioning flight.=0ACan anybody help , (Aircraft
is in the UK)=0AWhat should i do now,?=0AIs there somebody i can contact to
come and fix it,?=0AIs there a place i could take the aircraft to,- for
repair.?=0AOr do i poor in more Loctite- which seems a crude way to fix s
uch a vital component.=0A=0AAlan=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:
=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385065#385065=0A=0A=0A
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