---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/12/12: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:08 AM - What's Your Contribution Used For? (Matt Dralle) 1. 12:35 AM - Re: Question for 914 users (Remi Guerner) 2. 12:31 PM - Re: Question for 914 users (pestar) 3. 02:39 PM - Re: Re: Question for 914 users (Kingsley Hurst) 4. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Question for 914 users (Kingsley Hurst) 5. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Question for 914 users (Garry Stout) 6. 07:47 PM - Re: Question for 914 users (pestar) 7. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Question for 914 users (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:14 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: What's Your Contribution Used For? Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" 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Please let us know your findings. Good luck. Remi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387667#387667 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:27 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users From: "pestar" As the other New Zealand 914 user that Bill refers to I add a little advice that may help. You state you are only seeing 34 ins, that is what you get when the TCU is not working. How do I know, I took off the other day with the TCU switched off and noted that I only pulled about 33 in manifold but was still getting full rpm, 5780 in my case. This makes sense and though I do not suggest taking off with the TCU switched off it can be tried and would be a good pointer to see if your TCU is working. That is apart from the usual checks to see if the servo is cycling. Cheers Peter -------- Peter Armstrong Auckland, New Zealand DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387706#387706 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:39:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users From: Kingsley Hurst Peter, I eventually get 38" at 115% throttle setting. I get 34" at 100% throttle on the climb and it maintains 34" to 12,000 ft so I assume the TCU must be working. The TCU cycles perfectly on turn on. Having said that, I can certainly try a T/O with the TCU turned off to observe what happens. I need to have a fly behind another 914 in case my problem is only imaginary. Thank you for your help. Kingsley Sent from my iPhone On 13/11/2012, at 6:30 AM, "pestar" wrote: > > As the other New Zealand 914 user that Bill refers to I add a little advice that may help. > > You state you are only seeing 34 ins, that is what you get when the TCU is not working. How do I know, I took off the other day with the TCU switched off and noted that I only pulled about 33 in manifold but was still getting full rpm, 5780 in my case. > > This makes sense and though I do not suggest taking off with the TCU switched off it can be tried and would be a good pointer to see if your TCU is working. That is apart from the usual checks to see if the servo is cycling. > > Cheers Peter > > -------- > Peter Armstrong > Auckland, New Zealand > DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387706#387706 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users From: Kingsley Hurst Remi, Observing the waste gate lever and cable during the TCU test, it all appears to be nice and free. Notwithstanding, I shall check the cable as you describe. Thank you for taking the time to assist. Kingsley Sent from my iPhone On 12/11/2012, at 6:34 PM, "Remi Guerner" wrote: > > Kingsley, > It seems your wastegate takes more time than normal to move to its position. This may be caused by some undesirable friction in the system. I would first investigate this possible cause. I suggest you disconnect the waste gate bowden cable at both ends and pull it back and forth. Move the waste gate lever back and forth. Both should move easily. If they dont, some cleaning and lubrication should solve the problem. > Please let us know your findings. Good luck. > Remi > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387667#387667 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:20 PM PST US From: "Garry Stout" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users Not sure how you got 33 ins MP without turbo boost. Nominal ambient pressure at sea level is 29.92 ins. You need turbo boost to achieve something higher. Garry Stout -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pestar Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users As the other New Zealand 914 user that Bill refers to I add a little advice that may help. You state you are only seeing 34 ins, that is what you get when the TCU is not working. How do I know, I took off the other day with the TCU switched off and noted that I only pulled about 33 in manifold but was still getting full rpm, 5780 in my case. This makes sense and though I do not suggest taking off with the TCU switched off it can be tried and would be a good pointer to see if your TCU is working. That is apart from the usual checks to see if the servo is cycling. Cheers Peter -------- Peter Armstrong Auckland, New Zealand DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387706#387706 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:05 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users From: "pestar" It is because I live in the Southern Hemisphere and do not get impacted by Northern Hemisphere FUD. (':D') Seriously I questioned that as well as what you say is correct however that is what my manifold pressure was reading on my EFIS. Cheers Peter -------- Peter Armstrong Auckland, New Zealand DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387738#387738 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users From: Kingsley Hurst Gary, On the 914, even with the waste gate fully open, not all of the exhaust gas bypasses the turbo hence there is still some boost. According to the manual, with a fully open waste gate, the engine will produce 70 Kw (approx 93 HP) instead of the 80 HP the same engine would produce if the turbo charger was removed. Regards Kingsley Sent from my iPhone On 13/11/2012, at 10:28 AM, "Garry Stout" wrote: > > Not sure how you got 33 ins MP without turbo boost. Nominal ambient > pressure at sea level is 29.92 ins. You need turbo boost to achieve > something higher. > > Garry Stout > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pestar > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 3:31 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Question for 914 users > > > As the other New Zealand 914 user that Bill refers to I add a little advice > that may help. > > You state you are only seeing 34 ins, that is what you get when the TCU is > not working. How do I know, I took off the other day with the TCU switched > off and noted that I only pulled about 33 in manifold but was still getting > full rpm, 5780 in my case. > > This makes sense and though I do not suggest taking off with the TCU > switched off it can be tried and would be a good pointer to see if your TCU > is working. That is apart from the usual checks to see if the servo is > cycling. > > Cheers Peter > > -------- > Peter Armstrong > Auckland, New Zealand > DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ). > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=387706#387706 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.