---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/04/12: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:20 AM - Re: Plafond de mon Europa (Roland) 2. 02:53 AM - Re: Re: Plafond de mon Europa (mau11) 3. 07:27 AM - Re: tri gear socket installation (phillik747) 4. 07:29 AM - Re: Plafond de mon Europa (phillik747) 5. 08:40 AM - Re: Fw: Plafond de mon Europa (LAURENS yannick) 6. 08:56 AM - GPS ground plains (AirEupora) 7. 10:45 AM - Tri-Gear Nose Leg (Kelvin Weston) 8. 11:20 AM - SV: Re: Plafond de mon Europa (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen) 9. 12:00 PM - Re: Plafond de mon Europa (graeme bird) 10. 12:04 PM - Re: GPS ground plains (graeme bird) 11. 01:09 PM - Re: SV: Re: Plafond de mon Europa (mau11) 12. 02:15 PM - Re: Mountain wave flying (Bill & Sue) 13. 02:50 PM - Re: Battery Charging (Alan Carter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:46 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Plafond de mon Europa From: "Roland" Bonjour Michel, I guess you have the Rotax 914 fitted, right? Best wishes Roland PH-ZTI XS Trigear 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389806#389806 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:34 AM PST US From: mau11 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Plafond de mon Europa Um9sYW5kLCANCk5vIDkxMlMgb25seQ0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KRnJvbTogUm9sYW5kDQpEYXRlOiAy MDEyLTEyLTA0IDA5OjIwDQpUbzogZXVyb3BhLWxpc3QNClN1YmplY3Q6IEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0OiBS ZTogUGxhZm9uZCBkZSBtb24gRXVyb3BhDQotLT4gRXVyb3BhLUxpc3QgbWVzc2FnZSBwb3N0ZWQg Ynk6ICJSb2xhbmQiIDxzY2htaWR0cm9sYW5kQHdlYi5kZT4NCg0KQm9uam91ciBNaWNoZWwsDQoN CkkgZ3Vlc3MgeW91IGhhdmUgdGhlIFJvdGF4IDkxNCBmaXR0ZWQsIHJpZ2h0Pw0KDQpCZXN0IHdp c2hlcw0KUm9sYW5kDQoNClBILVpUSQ0KWFMgVHJpZ2VhciA5MTQNCg0KDQoNCg0KUmVhZCB0aGlz IHRvcGljIG9ubGluZSBoZXJlOg0KDQpodHRwOi8vZm9ydW1zLm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20vdmlld3Rv cGljLnBocD9wPTM4OTgwNiMzODk4MDYNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0NCl8tPQ0KXy09ICAg ICAgIC0tIFBsZWFzZSBTdXBwb3J0IFlvdXIgTGlzdHMgVGhpcyBNb250aCAtLQ0KXy09ICAgICAg ICAgICAoQW5kIEdldCBTb21lIEFXRVNPTUUgRlJFRSBHaWZ0cyEpDQpfLT0NCl8tPSAgIE5vdmVt YmVyIGlzIHRoZSBBbm51YWwgTGlzdCBGdW5kIFJhaXNlci4gIENsaWNrIG9uDQpfLT0gICB0aGUg Q29udHJpYnV0aW9uIGxpbmsgYmVsb3cgdG8gZmluZCBvdXQgbW9yZSBhYm91dA0KXy09ICAgdGhp cyB5ZWFyJ3MgVGVycmlmaWMgRnJlZSBJbmNlbnRpdmUgR2lmdHMgcHJvdmlkZWQNCl8tPSAgIGJ5 Og0KXy09ICAgDQpfLT0gICAgICogQWVyb0VsZWN0cmljIHd3dy5hZXJvZWxlY3RyaWMuY29tDQpf LT0gICAgICogVGhlIEJ1aWxkZXIncyBCb29rc3RvcmUgd3d3LmJ1aWxkZXJzYm9va3MuY29tDQpf LT0gICAgICogSG9tZWJ1aWx0SEVMUCB3d3cuaG9tZWJ1aWx0aGVscC5jb20NCl8tPQ0KXy09ICAg TGlzdCBDb250cmlidXRpb24gV2ViIFNpdGU6DQpfLT0NCl8tPSAgIC0tPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1h dHJvbmljcy5jb20vY29udHJpYnV0aW9uDQpfLT0NCl8tPSAgIFRoYW5rIHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBn ZW5lcm91cyBzdXBwb3J0IQ0KXy09DQpfLT0gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAt TWF0dCBEcmFsbGUsIExpc3QgQWRtaW4uDQpfLT0NCl8tPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09DQpfLT0gICAgICAgICAgLSBUaGUg RXVyb3BhLUxpc3QgRW1haWwgRm9ydW0gLQ0KXy09IFVzZSB0aGUgTWF0cm9uaWNzIExpc3QgRmVh dHVyZXMgTmF2aWdhdG9yIHRvIGJyb3dzZQ0KXy09IHRoZSBtYW55IExpc3QgdXRpbGl0aWVzIHN1 Y2ggYXMgTGlzdCBVbi9TdWJzY3JpcHRpb24sDQpfLT0gQXJjaGl2ZSBTZWFyY2ggJiBEb3dubG9h ZCwgNy1EYXkgQnJvd3NlLCBDaGF0LCBGQVEsDQpfLT0gUGhvdG9zaGFyZSwgYW5kIG11Y2ggbXVj aCBtb3JlOg0KXy09DQpfLT0gICAtLT4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL05hdmlnYXRv cj9FdXJvcGEtTGlzdA0KXy09DQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQ0KXy09ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgLSBNQVRST05JQ1Mg V0VCIEZPUlVNUyAtDQpfLT0gU2FtZSBncmVhdCBjb250ZW50IGFsc28gYXZhaWxhYmxlIHZpYSB0 aGUgV2ViIEZvcnVtcyENCl8tPQ0KXy09ICAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly9mb3J1bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNv bQ0KXy09DQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PQ= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:23 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: tri gear socket installation From: "phillik747" frans(at)privatepilots.nl wrote: > > > Also make sure you end up with some degree of toe in on the axles, as > the aircraft weight and roll friction will push the wheels outward a > little. This prevents the problem that the tires wear prematurely on the > inboard side. (After 200 hours, I still have even wear on the tires, > never had to swap or reverse them). > > Frans How much tow in are you talking about? I'm setting mine up now and is see there is a natural tendency for them to toe in a little but before I bond it all in I wanted to see how much is enough. Thanks, Kyle -------- Kyle Europa Tri-gear (under construction) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389818#389818 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:19 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Plafond de mon Europa From: "phillik747" Amazing! Here in the south (Alabama) we only have flat green areas. Kyle -------- Kyle Europa Tri-gear (under construction) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389819#389819 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:25 AM PST US From: LAURENS yannick Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Plafond de mon Europa Lucky Man if you need a copilot with europa mono qualification, I am available yannick F PSCZ Le 3 d=E9c. 12 =E0 21:07, mau11 a =E9crit : > > Hi all > > The last 15 of november, (the last beautiful day here) I climb to > the Mont Blanc, and after I Climb to 17000 feets maximum ceiling > possible this day without oxygen > On the middle left of the second picture there is the "Cervin" > Good evening > > Michel AUVRAY[mau11] F-PFGT Builder 145-550 hours > [mau11] > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: GPS ground plains From: "AirEupora" Allen Skanderup Nielsen asked about GPS ground plains. I have two installed on my plane. The Garmin 430W came with an 8 foot cable that is required for the antenna to work correctly. I install this antenna just behind the baggage bulkhead. I created a 'U' shape bracket of fiberglass and put a aluminum plate at the bottom. I attached the bracket and antenna to the roof of the plane. It is working nicely. The other antenna was supplied by MGL with their EFIS. This antenna has a magnet on it. So I took a steel plate and again made a plate about one inch wider than the antenna and used the 'U' shape fiberglass mount. This is glued to the top cockpit panel. It also came with a long cable that is wrapped along the back top of the panel. Both antennas work well. The Garmin requires you to tell it where the antenna is located. The MGL just works. I looked for some pictures, but I guess I did take any. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389822#389822 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:15 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Tri-Gear Nose Leg From: "Kelvin Weston" Hi all Can anybody provide a dimension from the Tri-Gear nose wheel leg please. I would like to know the measurement from where the nose gear leg bushes mount to the landing gear frame, rearwards to the large cross tube on the gear leg that the bump stop tube and the Mod 71 springs are mounted on. I am waiting for my Tri-Gear conversion kit from the Europa factory but would like to start sorting out the tunnel area. I intend to put a bulkhead in there and I am trying to decide how far back from the firewall it needs to be to allow sufficient clearance for the nose gear leg. Also to provide some clearance for the springs. I have the Tech Talk drawing that shows the tunnel bulkhead 12 inches back from the firewall but this looks too far back. The build manual chapter 21T, shows the lower fuselage cutout as 9 inches back from the firewall. Many thanks. -------- Regards Kelv Weston Kit 497 kelv@kdweston.biz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389827#389827 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:11 AM PST US From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: SV: Europa-List: Re: Plafond de mon Europa Michel, 17,000 ft with a 912S - VERY impressive! Which type of fuel did you use? I am thinking about vapour lock (which you obviously did not experience). Regards, Svein ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:36 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Plafond de mon Europa From: "graeme bird" Brilliant, thanks for posting. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 45 hours g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389829#389829 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:04:42 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: GPS ground plains From: "graeme bird" I used a 1ft square of printed circuit board from maplin mounted copper down with the antenna pointing down on two bits of ply behind the baggage bay wall straddling the rudder cables. Seems to work just fine. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 45 hours g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389830#389830 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:09:30 PM PST US From: mau11 Subject: Re: SV: Europa-List: Re: Plafond de mon Europa SGkgU3ZlaW4NCkkgdXNlIHN0YW5kYXJkIDk1IHVubGVhZGVkIGFuZCBJIGRvbnQnIGhhdmUgdmFw b3IgbG9jaywgSSBmb2xsb3cgdGhlIEV1cm9wYSBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbnMsIGFuZCBpbnN0YWxsIHJl c3RyaWN0b3IuDQpJIHRoaW5rIHdpdGggT3h5Z2VuLCBtYXkgYmUgaXQgaXMgcG9zc2libGUgdG8g Y2xpbWIgdG8gMTgwMDAgZnQuDQoNCk1pY2hlbCBBVVZSQVkNCkJ1aWxkZXIgMTQ1DQoNCg0KDQoN Cg0KRnJvbTogU2lkc2VsICYgU3ZlaW4gSm9obnNlbg0KRGF0ZTogMjAxMi0xMi0wNCAyMDoxOQ0K VG86IGV1cm9wYS1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20NClN1YmplY3Q6IFNWOiBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDog UmU6IFBsYWZvbmQgZGUgbW9uIEV1cm9wYQ0KTWljaGVsLA0KMTcsMDAwIGZ0IHdpdGggYSA5MTJT IOKAkyBWRVJZIGltcHJlc3NpdmUhICANCldoaWNoIHR5cGUgb2YgZnVlbCBkaWQgeW91IHVzZT8g ICBJIGFtIHRoaW5raW5nIGFib3V0IHZhcG91ciBsb2NrICh3aGljaCB5b3Ugb2J2aW91c2x5IGRp ZCBub3QgZXhwZXJpZW5jZSkuDQpSZWdhcmRzLA0KU3ZlaW4NCg0KDQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQ0KXy09DQpfLT0g ICAgICAgLS0gUGxlYXNlIFN1cHBvcnQgWW91ciBMaXN0cyBUaGlzIE1vbnRoIC0tDQpfLT0gICAg ICAgICAgIChBbmQgR2V0IFNvbWUgQVdFU09NRSBGUkVFIEdpZnRzISkNCl8tPQ0KXy09ICAgTm92 ZW1iZXIgaXMgdGhlIEFubnVhbCBMaXN0IEZ1bmQgUmFpc2VyLiAgQ2xpY2sgb24NCl8tPSAgIHRo ZSBDb250cmlidXRpb24gbGluayBiZWxvdyB0byBmaW5kIG91dCBtb3JlIGFib3V0DQpfLT0gICB0 aGlzIHllYXIncyBUZXJyaWZpYyBGcmVlIEluY2VudGl2ZSBHaWZ0cyBwcm92aWRlZA0KXy09ICAg Ynk6DQpfLT0gICANCl8tPSAgICAgKiBBZXJvRWxlY3RyaWMgd3d3LmFlcm9lbGVjdHJpYy5jb20N Cl8tPSAgICAgKiBUaGUgQnVpbGRlcidzIEJvb2tzdG9yZSB3d3cuYnVpbGRlcnNib29rcy5jb20N Cl8tPSAgICAgKiBIb21lYnVpbHRIRUxQIHd3dy5ob21lYnVpbHRoZWxwLmNvbQ0KXy09DQpfLT0g ICBMaXN0IENvbnRyaWJ1dGlvbiBXZWIgU2l0ZToNCl8tPQ0KXy09ICAgLS0+IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cu bWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbS9jb250cmlidXRpb24NCl8tPQ0KXy09ICAgVGhhbmsgeW91IGZvciB5b3Vy IGdlbmVyb3VzIHN1cHBvcnQhDQpfLT0NCl8tPSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg IC1NYXR0IERyYWxsZSwgTGlzdCBBZG1pbi4NCl8tPQ0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0NCl8tPSAgICAgICAgICAtIFRo ZSBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdCBFbWFpbCBGb3J1bSAtDQpfLT0gVXNlIHRoZSBNYXRyb25pY3MgTGlzdCBG ZWF0dXJlcyBOYXZpZ2F0b3IgdG8gYnJvd3NlDQpfLT0gdGhlIG1hbnkgTGlzdCB1dGlsaXRpZXMg c3VjaCBhcyBMaXN0IFVuL1N1YnNjcmlwdGlvbiwNCl8tPSBBcmNoaXZlIFNlYXJjaCAmIERvd25s b2FkLCA3LURheSBCcm93c2UsIENoYXQsIEZBUSwNCl8tPSBQaG90b3NoYXJlLCBhbmQgbXVjaCBt dWNoIG1vcmU6DQpfLT0NCl8tPSAgIC0tPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20vTmF2aWdh dG9yP0V1cm9wYS1MaXN0DQpfLT0NCl8tPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09DQpfLT0gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAtIE1BVFJPTklD UyBXRUIgRk9SVU1TIC0NCl8tPSBTYW1lIGdyZWF0IGNvbnRlbnQgYWxzbyBhdmFpbGFibGUgdmlh IHRoZSBXZWIgRm9ydW1zIQ0KXy09DQpfLT0gICAtLT4gaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3Mu Y29tDQpfLT0NCl8tPT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:02 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mountain wave flying From: "Bill & Sue" Remi, You are making me jealous.. with winter weather upon us (or just plain wet) our local strip is waterlogged and flying is a bit thin on the groundMeanwhile our Europa is making slow progress- we moved house again last month- however here is a picture of me this summer in almost the same place and same height near Gap, this time looking the other way and without an engine at all... More pictures please -as an incentive to get on with the building! Regards Bill & Sue PS Michel, Fantastic flying and great pictures- did you know that more then 50 French Paragliders landed on top of Mont Blanc this summer before taking off again and flying home! http://vimeo.com/48351310 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389838#389838 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/r0010933_medium_153.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Battery Charging From: "Alan Carter" Hello ALL. Just to anybody interested, I have found you can get a socket that can be mounted behind a little door cut into the side of the fuselage, this can be used for Charging and External Starting. Another way told to me was to use the cigar lighter socket as an input in reverse, but the socket would have to be wired directly to the battery, not via the Master Switch. I have ended up purchasing a motor cycle external charging unit, consists of Two eye piece connection leads, one - and one + with built in fuse, these eyelets go onto the battery terminals, A plastic moulded two pin connector with cover is at the other end wire, this just pops out the floor in the rear of cockpit. I run a short removable connecting lead from this and let the other end dangle out of the small air vent on the planes front Starboard side. With the plane all done up in its cockpit covers, I can just plug my little maintenance charger into the plug. It works well, a fully charged battery gives a faster spin over and prevents detonation. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=389841#389841 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.