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1. 07:54 AM - Ethanol Testing Kits (Alan Carter)
2. 08:32 AM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (William McClellan)
3. 10:22 AM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (DAVID JOYCE)
4. 10:36 AM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Alan Carter)
5. 11:04 AM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Alan Carter)
6. 11:47 AM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Roland)
7. 12:37 PM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Alan Carter)
8. 12:55 PM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Roland)
9. 01:25 PM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Alan Carter)
10. 01:47 PM - Re: Ethanol Testing Kits (Roland)
11. 03:45 PM - Re: Europa-List Kick=back (Karl Heindl)
12. 03:51 PM - Re: Moving the tri-gear (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | Ethanol Testing Kits |
Hi All.
Has anyone use an Ethanol testing kit, some are just a tube with water added to
it, and others have a blue die added as well,
Do they work, as i plan to get one, has anybody tested Super Plus for ethanol.
I ask because a friend said he,s finding ethanol in fuel from the local garages.
Regards
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Alan,
There isn't much need to buy an expensive ethanol testing method. Just put a little
water in a clear container (with a top) up to a line on the container.
Add the fuel you want to check for ethanol and shake. The alcohol will dissolve
into the water and will be shown by an increase in water above the previous
water line. You can even determine the amount (percentage) of alcohol in the
fuel with a ratio calculation knowing how much fuel you added and how much the
volume of water was increased.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan Carter <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
>Sent: Dec 14, 2012 7:53 AM
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Ethanol Testing Kits
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>Hi All.
>Has anyone use an Ethanol testing kit, some are just a tube with water added to
it, and others have a blue die added as well,
>Do they work, as i plan to get one, has anybody tested Super Plus for ethanol.
>I ask because a friend said he,s finding ethanol in fuel from the local garages.
>
>Regards
>Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Take a look at this to see Bills method as a video!=0A-=0Ahttp://www.yout
ube.com/watch?v=RbDAw4a6Ck0=0A-=0Awe used to pour gallons by the thousa
nd over the side in my formative years working offshore, or was it methanol
? ;-)=0Argds=0ADavid The other one=0A=0ASent to you from David Joyce=0Awww.
eastmidsspas.com=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Will
iam McClellan <wilwood@earthlink.net>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASe
nt: Friday, 14 December 2012, 16:32=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Ethanol Tes
ood@earthlink.net>=0A=0AAlan,=0AThere isn't much need to buy an expensive e
thanol testing method.- Just put a little water in a clear container (wit
h a top) up to a line on the container.- Add the fuel you want to check f
or ethanol and shake.- The alcohol will dissolve into the water and will
be shown by an increase in water above the previous water line.- You can
even determine the amount (percentage) of alcohol in the fuel with a ratio
calculation knowing how much fuel you added and how much the volume of wat
er was increased.=0ABill=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0A>From: Alan C
arter <alancarteresq@onetel.net>=0A>Sent: Dec 14, 2012 7:53 AM=0A>To: europ
a-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Europa-List: Ethanol Testing Kits=0A>=0A>-
=0A>=0A>Hi All.=0A>Has anyone use an Ethanol testing kit, some are just a t
ube with water added to it, and others have a blue die added as well,=0A>Do
they work, as i plan to get one, has anybody tested Super Plus for ethanol
.=0A>I ask because a friend said he,s finding ethanol in fuel from the loca
l garages. =0A>=0A>Regards=0A>Alan- =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic o
nline here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390446#390
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Hi Bill.
I will do just that, let you know if i find any.
But as anybody else found ethanol.
Any Comments on Super Plus, Approved by Rotax but not by thr CAA or LAA
Basically i know nothing about vapour locks., but the fuel is used in car engines
and that can be from Sea level to say 1200 Ft, and at altitudes of say 2000ft
i would not think the pressure would have any effect,
As far as i know its the fuel turning into vapour in the fuel line above the engine
due to the surrounding hot air, In the Winter the temperatures are say +5
to -5 at these levels , so the chance of this occurring would be small. This
is just my thoughts there may not be correct.
Does anybody have some comments on this.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
David.
Watch the video ,the last comment say it all.
The gas station have no idea what's in there tanks, I went to a garage today and
asked for information on the fuel in the tanks, they had no idea of what i was
talking about,
I am going to do the test each time in future, I have the 5 minutes and as i said
another pilot was finding ethanol in his fuel.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Alan,
in Germany we have the fuel standardized as follows: the premium has a maximum
of 5 percent Ethanol, the premium E10 -you'll guess it- 10 percent.
They've tested it several times and found out, that you can rely on that. I expected
it to be the same in the UK.
The 98 octane fuel has also a maximum of 5 percent ethanol.
I refuel at a well frequented Shell fuel station on my way home (I transport my
Europa in a trailer) with premium 95 octane. No problems so far.
Roland
XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Hi Roland.
Sorry but in the UK it could be 10% orange juice , that's why i am going to test
my fuel.
Ethanol is not good , Why don,t you use the 5% ethanol fuel, may be a bit more
money but still cheaper than Avgas.
I too have a little trailer i tow with my tools and fuel in.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Hi Alan,
the 95 octane premium (not the so called "E 10") has a maximum of 5 percent Ethanol
in Germany. I would even use the 98 octane although it's more expensive when
I could expect any (measurable) advantages over the 95 octane fuel (the same
applies for the AVGAS).
In any case unleaded is the preferable fuel for the Rotax (even the E 10 can be
used - disregarding the other not suitable components).
Roland
XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Hi Roland.
i am having a lot of kick back on starting, due you have a new engine later than
2000 , the later engines have 6 pins on the ignition system and incorporate
dual soft starts modules and the timing below 800 rpms is 3% after TDC as opposed
to the older engines of 4% Before TDC.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Testing Kits |
Alan,
I have an older engine from before 2000 (the second used one due to an overboost).
Neither I had any cold starting problems with the previous engine (the -8C start
I was referring to was with that engine) nor with the new engine around 0 C.
Both engines from before 2000 and always with premium 95 octane.
Good luck in troubleshooting.
Roland
XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | RE: Europa-List Kick=back |
If you don't correct this you will damage the sprag clutch=2C and that is e
xpensive.You need to do two things:Get the friction torque adjusted by a Ro
tax man to be the maximum allowable. For this you need to remove the gearbo
x.Second =2C you need to change the flywheel=2C should also be done by your
Rotax specialist. If you have a Classic this may mean having to loosen the
engine to get access to the back.
Cheers=2C
Karl
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Ethanol Testing Kits
> From: alancarteresq@onetel.net
> Date: Fri=2C 14 Dec 2012 13:24:48 -0800
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> Hi Roland.
> i am having a lot of kick back on starting=2C due you have a new engine l
ater than 2000 =2C the later engines have 6 pins on the ignition system and
incorporate dual soft starts modules and the timing below 800 rpms is 3% a
fter TDC as opposed to the older engines of 4% Before TDC.
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| Subject: | Re: Moving the tri-gear |
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