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4. 12:14 PM - Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency (Pete Lawless)
5. 12:51 PM - Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency (Alan Burrill)
6. 01:40 PM - Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency (Bob Hitchcock)
7. 01:49 PM - Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. (Alan Carter)
8. 01:49 PM - Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. (Alan Carter)
9. 01:50 PM - Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. (Alan Carter)
10. 02:38 PM - Certificate of English Language proficiency (Fred Klein)
11. 10:17 PM - Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. (Roland)
12. 10:23 PM - Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency (Roland)
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Subject: | Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. |
Here it comes....
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Subject: | Certificate of English Language proficiency |
Hi
Have just received my certificate of proficiency in the English language level
6. !
Just a reminder to everyone in the UK who is currently converting their licence
to the the new pan European licence. Our now expired proficiency in English
was granted some years ago at the beginning of the new language assessment scheme
as an automatic "gift" to all native Englishmen. Under the new euro rules
we have to demonstrate our ability to speak English. Do not ignore this need.
It an absolute requirement to have a valid certificate when applying for the
new EASA licence. You can obtain a certificate following a successful Flight test
(remember to ask) or RT test, or accredited Language school or CAA approved
circumstance.
Will send off the paperwork tonight. All being well should then get a shiny new
Euro licence. That ought to let me fly EASA and non - EASA annex ii aircraft
like the Europa.
Of course we can fly the Europa on the new LAPL as well, but for the me the EASA
has more privileges and costs much less. But the rate varies significantly dependant
on each individual case. There are pro and cons to EASA and LAPL licence
variants
Anyone else applied for the new licence yet? Any other known hassles?
Regards
Bob
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Subject: | Certificate of English Language proficiency |
Only in the EU could a proficiency certificate in the English language
expire! What do they think has happened - maybe you forgot how to talk
English.
What an absolute nonsense it all is.
Pete
DO NO ARCHIVE
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hitchcock
Sent: 14 February 2013 19:04
Subject: Europa-List: Certificate of English Language proficiency
<robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
Hi
Have just received my certificate of proficiency in the English language
level 6. !
Just a reminder to everyone in the UK who is currently converting their
licence to the the new pan European licence. Our now expired proficiency in
English was granted some years ago at the beginning of the new language
assessment scheme as an automatic "gift" to all native Englishmen. Under
the new euro rules we have to demonstrate our ability to speak English. Do
not ignore this need. It an absolute requirement to have a valid certificate
when applying for the new EASA licence. You can obtain a certificate
following a successful Flight test (remember to ask) or RT test, or
accredited Language school or CAA approved circumstance.
Will send off the paperwork tonight. All being well should then get a shiny
new Euro licence. That ought to let me fly EASA and non - EASA annex ii
aircraft like the Europa.
Of course we can fly the Europa on the new LAPL as well, but for the me the
EASA has more privileges and costs much less. But the rate varies
significantly dependant on each individual case. There are pro and cons to
EASA and LAPL licence variants
Anyone else applied for the new licence yet? Any other known hassles?
Regards
Bob
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Subject: | Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency |
I've emailed the CAA for a copy of my records as the last flight examiner couldn't
tell me what he had provided to the CAA. My CAA licence just says English!
I'm still waiting for a response - two weeks so far.
Alan
#0303
Sent from my iPad
The CAA
On 14 Feb 2013, at 19:03, Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> Have just received my certificate of proficiency in the English language level
6. !
>
> Just a reminder to everyone in the UK who is currently converting their licence
to the the new pan European licence. Our now expired proficiency in English
was granted some years ago at the beginning of the new language assessment scheme
as an automatic "gift" to all native Englishmen. Under the new euro rules
we have to demonstrate our ability to speak English. Do not ignore this need.
It an absolute requirement to have a valid certificate when applying for the
new EASA licence. You can obtain a certificate following a successful Flight
test (remember to ask) or RT test, or accredited Language school or CAA approved
circumstance.
>
> Will send off the paperwork tonight. All being well should then get a shiny new
Euro licence. That ought to let me fly EASA and non - EASA annex ii aircraft
like the Europa.
>
> Of course we can fly the Europa on the new LAPL as well, but for the me the EASA
has more privileges and costs much less. But the rate varies significantly
dependant on each individual case. There are pro and cons to EASA and LAPL licence
variants
>
> Anyone else applied for the new licence yet? Any other known hassles?
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency |
Hi All
I know it seems like bureaucracy gone mad, but on the paper chase of documen
ts you do need it.
The following may help
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/srg_lts_Std%20Doc%2051V1_21122012.pdf
Regards
Bob
On 14 Feb 2013, at 20:51, Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I've emailed the CAA for a copy of my records as the last flight examiner c
ouldn't tell me what he had provided to the CAA. My CAA licence just says En
glish!
>
> I'm still waiting for a response - two weeks so far.
>
> Alan
> #0303
>
> Sent from my iPad
> The CAA
> On 14 Feb 2013, at 19:03, Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net> wrot
e:
>
.net>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>> Have just received my certificate of proficiency in the English language l
evel 6. !
>>
>> Just a reminder to everyone in the UK who is currently converting their l
icence to the the new pan European licence. Our now expired proficiency in E
nglish was granted some years ago at the beginning of the new language asse
ssment scheme as an automatic "gift" to all native Englishmen. Under the ne
w euro rules we have to demonstrate our ability to speak English. Do not ign
ore this need. It an absolute requirement to have a valid certificate when a
pplying for the new EASA licence. You can obtain a certificate following a s
uccessful Flight test (remember to ask) or RT test, or accredited Language s
chool or CAA approved circumstance.
>>
>> Will send off the paperwork tonight. All being well should then get a shi
ny new Euro licence. That ought to let me fly EASA and non - EASA annex ii a
ircraft like the Europa.
>>
>> Of course we can fly the Europa on the new LAPL as well, but for the me t
he EASA has more privileges and costs much less. But the rate varies signifi
cantly dependant on each individual case. There are pro and cons to EASA and
LAPL licence variants
>>
>> Anyone else applied for the new licence yet? Any other known hassles?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. |
Hello Roland.
Well that,s interesting,, Having done 10000 hours instructing i had a reasonable
idea of what a heavy landing was like, even then only the odd one may have slipped
through where you really felt it.
My aeroplane has had two previous owner so i don,t know what sort of life it had
before me, and i did not know what you would call a heavy landing in a Home
built aeroplane at that time, But now having seen some Europa landings i can say
i never have made a bad landing,
Don,t know if its true but SOME SAY the engine mounts will go before the undercarriage
goes. Yes i love Top Gear. Clarkson for Prime Minster .
And the same as you have polished the plane all over i did not see it then, but
i guess it could have been there but i don,t think so.
Since discovering it i have made many more landing without incident but the crease
is still there. My plane is a Mono /Tri Conversion.
Just out of interest don,t ask me why, I find Flapless landings are much better
for the plane on rough bumpy runways, need the runway lenght, and a airfield
you know, well it works for me, give it a try and let me know.
Fitting clamps at the moment so the tailplane in bits.
Regards
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. |
Hello Roland.
Well that,s interesting,, Having done 10000 hours instructing i had a reasonable
idea of what a heavy landing was like, even then only the odd one may have slipped
through where you really felt it.
My aeroplane has had two previous owner so i don,t know what sort of life it had
before me, and i did not know what you would call a heavy landing in a Home
built aeroplane at that time, But now having seen some Europa landings i can say
i never have made a bad landing,
Don,t know if its true but SOME SAY the engine mounts will go before the undercarriage
goes. Yes i love Top Gear. Clarkson for Prime Minster .
And the same as you have polished the plane all over i did not see it then, but
i guess it could have been there but i don,t think so.
Since discovering it i have made many more landing without incident but the crease
is still there. My plane is a Mono /Tri Conversion.
Just out of interest don,t ask me why, I find Flapless landings are much better
for the plane on rough bumpy runways, need the runway lenght, and a airfield
you know, well it works for me, give it a try and let me know.
Fitting clamps at the moment so the tailplane in bits.
Regards
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. |
Hello Roland.
Well that,s interesting,, Having done 10000 hours instructing i had a reasonable
idea of what a heavy landing was like, even then only the odd one may have slipped
through where you really felt it.
My aeroplane has had two previous owner so i don,t know what sort of life it had
before me, and i did not know what you would call a heavy landing in a Home
built aeroplane at that time, But now having seen some Europa landings i can say
i never have made a bad landing,
Don,t know if its true but SOME SAY the engine mounts will go before the undercarriage
goes. Yes i love Top Gear. Clarkson for Prime Minster .
And the same as you have polished the plane all over i did not see it then, but
i guess it could have been there but i don,t think so.
Since discovering it i have made many more landing without incident but the crease
is still there. My plane is a Mono /Tri Conversion.
Just out of interest don,t ask me why, I find Flapless landings are much better
for the plane on rough bumpy runways, need the runway lenght, and a airfield
you know, well it works for me, give it a try and let me know.
Fitting clamps at the moment so the tailplane in bits.
Regards
Alan
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Subject: | Certificate of English Language proficiency |
...almost on topic...
> a Romanian news site launched a campaign designed to attract British
tourists, featuring such slogans as =93We speak better English than
anywhere you=92ve been in France.=94
http://www.rferl.org/content/romanian-bulgaria-ads-migration-britain/24888
013.html
do not archive
On Feb 14, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Bob Hitchcock wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I know it seems like bureaucracy gone mad, but on the paper chase of
documents you do need it.
>
> The following may help
>
> http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/srg_lts_Std%20Doc%2051V1_21122012.pdf
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
> On 14 Feb 2013, at 20:51, Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've emailed the CAA for a copy of my records as the last flight
examiner couldn't tell me what he had provided to the CAA. My CAA
licence just says English!
>>
>> I'm still waiting for a response - two weeks so far.
>>
>> Alan
>> #0303
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> The CAA
>> On 14 Feb 2013, at 19:03, Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
wrote:
>>
<robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> Have just received my certificate of proficiency in the English
language level 6. !
>>>
>>> Just a reminder to everyone in the UK who is currently converting
their licence to the the new pan European licence. Our now expired
proficiency in English was granted some years ago at the beginning of
the new language assessment scheme as an automatic "gift" to all native
Englishmen. Under the new euro rules we have to demonstrate our ability
to speak English. Do not ignore this need. It an absolute requirement to
have a valid certificate when applying for the new EASA licence. You can
obtain a certificate following a successful Flight test (remember to
ask) or RT test, or accredited Language school or CAA approved
circumstance.
>>>
>>> Will send off the paperwork tonight. All being well should then get
a shiny new Euro licence. That ought to let me fly EASA and non - EASA
annex ii aircraft like the Europa.
>>>
>>> Of course we can fly the Europa on the new LAPL as well, but for the
me the EASA has more privileges and costs much less. But the rate varies
significantly dependant on each individual case. There are pro and cons
to EASA and LAPL licence variants
>>>
>>> Anyone else applied for the new licence yet? Any other known
hassles?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com====
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Subject: | Re: Heavy Landing on Tri Gear. |
Good morning Alan,
my plane also had two previous owners and kit started as a Mono and was converted
to a Trigear with a Rotax 914 (btw I'm also investigating on that kick back
problem at low temperatures now but since I already needed a new engine there
probably is some set up yet to be done), so very similar to yours in this regard.
It is a complete XS although the build number is quite low. I learned, that
the reference for that number is the shipping of the first stage of the kit
(tailplane as far as I recall it) and maybe the builder didn't progress with
it as planned (like so many others?).
Despite a negative overboost experience last year I still have that "Europa grin"
and today I cannot imagine to separate one day.
I haven't done a complete flapless landing yet. I normally use the 18 T/O position.
The runway at my homebase is 1500 metres tarmac so indeed there is no reason
not to try it.
Regards
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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Subject: | Re: Certificate of English Language proficiency |
Hi Pete,
as far as I know it doesn't expire, provided that you reach level 6. This shouldn't
be a problem for you English folks (envy) :-)
Regards
Roland
pete(at)lawless.info wrote:
> Only in the EU could a proficiency certificate in the English language
> expire! What do they think has happened - maybe you forgot how to talk
> English.
>
> What an absolute nonsense it all is.
>
> Pete
>
> DO NO ARCHIVE
>
> --
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