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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Weight and Balance Scales (jonathanmilbank)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Weight and Balance Scales (richard)
3. 10:33 AM - GPS (Steven Pitt)
4. 10:48 AM - Re: GPS (DAVID JOYCE)
5. 10:49 AM - Re: GPS (Jeff B)
6. 12:01 PM - Re: GPS (graeme bird)
7. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: Weight and Balance Scales (Robert Borger)
8. 04:00 PM - Oil Cooler Fittings (peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk)
9. 11:49 PM - SV: Re: SV: fuel flow and return line status (gtagr)
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance Scales |
What's different about doing the weight and balance operation for a trigear, compared
with a monowheel? I'm just approaching the end of a mono- to tri- conversion
and I've booked my inspector to come and do the business later this month.
He's done many weighings for many aircraft types and has all the necessary kit.
But I have the original instructions for this task in my old Europa Owners Manual
stating that the 0 datum is at the forward face of the cowling, whereas these
days the correct position is measured 29.25" forward from the rear edge of
the cowling joggle in the fuselage.
Apart from that we'll need to measure the stations of the wheel centres aft of
the 0 datum and he'll use all that info including weight measured at each wheel
to make his calculations.
All I'm asking you kind people out there is to warn me of any "gotchas" so that
I don't embarrass myself when he arrives from 60 miles away. Like what essential
items should I provide? I already have realised that there's no dedicated
jacking point near each main wheel axle. In the absence of any better suggestion,
I'm going to make a little steel bracket which bolts on through the spare
holes in the brake torque plate and has a welded projection for a trolley jack
to lift against. Is this how it's done?
Yours in eager anticipation. Jonathan
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance Scales |
Hi Jonathan
You will need to get the plane sitting with the horizontal datum set to
zero, I found that some 6x12in pieces of 1/2 inch chip board were useful to
pack up under my main wheels to achieve this. As for special jacks, I just
got under the wing on the side to be lifted and put my back against the
underside of the wing and lifted, remember its not going to be too heavy I
hope! Best of luck Richard
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From: jonathanmilbank
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Weight and Balance Scales
What's different about doing the weight and balance operation for a trigear,
compared with a monowheel? I'm just approaching the end of a mono- to tri-
conversion and I've booked my inspector to come and do the business later
this month.
He's done many weighings for many aircraft types and has all the necessary
kit. But I have the original instructions for this task in my old Europa
Owners Manual stating that the 0 datum is at the forward face of the
cowling, whereas these days the correct position is measured 29.25" forward
from the rear edge of the cowling joggle in the fuselage.
Apart from that we'll need to measure the stations of the wheel centres aft
of the 0 datum and he'll use all that info including weight measured at each
wheel to make his calculations.
All I'm asking you kind people out there is to warn me of any "gotchas" so
that I don't embarrass myself when he arrives from 60 miles away. Like what
essential items should I provide? I already have realised that there's no
dedicated jacking point near each main wheel axle. In the absence of any
better suggestion, I'm going to make a little steel bracket which bolts on
through the spare holes in the brake torque plate and has a welded
projection for a trolley jack to lift against. Is this how it's done?
Yours in eager anticipation. Jonathan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396230#396230
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My Skymap 111C has died. I took it to the factory and they diagnosed a new
GPS engine and main processor PCB (total cost over 600 plus VAT). To be
fair to the staff they recognised that this was not worth the cost and
apologised that as they were now part of Honeywell they were more focused on
military and commercial kit, rather than the smaller end of the market.
So here is my plea. - I need another GPS for panel mounting but principally
for driving my Trio wing leveller (which needs an NMEA protocol?).
Any recommendations please.
Thank you
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH trigear XS
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Steve =0AI have 2 for sale with panel mounts both are Garmin one is the 196
and the other is 495 =0Aplease contact me for further details =0Argds=0ADa
vid =0Athe other one=0A=0A=0ASent to you from David Joyce=0Awww.eastmidsspa
s.com=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Steven Pitt <st
even.pitt2@ntlworld.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday,
14 March 2013, 17:32=0ASubject: Europa-List: GPS=0A =0A--> Europa-List me
ssage posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>=0A=0AMy Skymap 1
11C has died. I took it to the factory and they diagnosed a new GPS engine
and main processor PCB (total cost over =A3600 plus VAT). To be fair to the
staff they recognised that this was not worth the cost and apologised that
as they were now part of Honeywell they were more focused on military and
commercial kit, rather than the smaller end of the market.=0ASo here is my
plea. - I need another GPS for panel mounting but principally for driving m
y Trio wing leveller (which needs an NMEA protocol?).=0AAny recommendations
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Steve, The Garmin 396 and up will do the job very well...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 3/14/2013 12:32 PM, Steven Pitt wrote:
> <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
>
> My Skymap 111C has died. I took it to the factory and they diagnosed a
> new GPS engine and main processor PCB (total cost over 600 plus VAT).
> To be fair to the staff they recognised that this was not worth the cost
> and apologised that as they were now part of Honeywell they were more
> focused on military and commercial kit, rather than the smaller end of
> the market.
> So here is my plea. - I need another GPS for panel mounting but
> principally for driving my Trio wing leveller (which needs an NMEA
> protocol?).
> Any recommendations please.
> Thank you
> Steve Pitt
> G-SMDH trigear XS
>
>
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my garmin aera 500 is working well for me its on the panel but I can load up at
home, take flight logs off and use it for the car too
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 45 hours
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and Balance Scales |
Jonathan,
I made ramps 1 meter long the height of the scales to allow me to roll my tri up
on them. When I did, I found out that it wasn't quite level fore/aft, that
I had to raise the mains another 1/2 in or so. I made a 1/2" high stand for the
mains scales and added a 1/2" stick under the end of the ramps to match heights.
Now when I roll the aircraft up on the scales it's nice and level. I assume
that you have the XS Tri Owners Manual with the W&B procedures and calculations?
If not, download from Europa. It's pretty straight forward. I have
an XL spreadsheet for W&B and can send it along if you wish.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Mar 14, 2013, at 7:00 AM, jonathanmilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
What's different about doing the weight and balance operation for a trigear, compared
with a monowheel? I'm just approaching the end of a mono- to tri- conversion
and I've booked my inspector to come and do the business later this month.
He's done many weighings for many aircraft types and has all the necessary kit.
But I have the original instructions for this task in my old Europa Owners Manual
stating that the 0 datum is at the forward face of the cowling, whereas these
days the correct position is measured 29.25" forward from the rear edge of
the cowling joggle in the fuselage.
Apart from that we'll need to measure the stations of the wheel centres aft of
the 0 datum and he'll use all that info including weight measured at each wheel
to make his calculations.
All I'm asking you kind people out there is to warn me of any "gotchas" so that
I don't embarrass myself when he arrives from 60 miles away. Like what essential
items should I provide? I already have realised that there's no dedicated
jacking point near each main wheel axle. In the absence of any better suggestion,
I'm going to make a little steel bracket which bolts on through the spare
holes in the brake torque plate and has a welded projection for a trolley jack
to lift against. Is this how it's done?
Yours in eager anticipation. Jonathan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=396230#396230
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| Subject: | Oil Cooler Fittings |
One of the right angle oil cooler fittings on HI has seen better days.
Would anyone be able to tell me the size used (the current ones
supplied by Rotax are smaller than the ones used on HI (Classic).
As ever, any help much appreciated.
Peter
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| Subject: | Re: SV: Re: SV: fuel flow and return line status |
Hello Svein,
Thinking more about the single fuel flow setup - would you agree that another way
of checking the restrictor is not blocked, is simply to monitor that there
IS fuel flow without the engine running but with the boost pump running? I get
around 9L/hr.
Assuming the float chambers are full and there are no external leaks, not sure
where else fuel can go if it is not being consumed by a running engine. . .
Clive
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