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1. 01:30 AM - Videoing flight - key fob camera (graeme bird)
2. 03:43 AM - Final call for Europa Flyers to Friedrichshafen/Biberach..... (stephan cassel)
3. 04:35 AM - Re: mid-door latch - YERLY (jonathanmilbank)
4. 06:30 AM - GS Air Strobe lights (jglazener)
5. 07:18 AM - Re: Videoing flight - key fob camera (Robert Borger)
6. 09:51 AM - Re: SV: Re: SV: fuel flow and return line status (John Heykoop)
7. 09:51 AM - Re: Final call for Europa Flyers to Friedrichshafen/Biberach..... (Max Cointe)
8. 10:13 AM - Re: Videoing flight - key fob camera (graeme bird)
9. 10:24 AM - Re: GS Air Strobe lights (graeme bird)
10. 10:27 AM - Re: mid-door latch - YERLY (Alan Carter)
11. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: mid-door latch - YERLY (Bud Yerly)
12. 10:59 AM - Re: mid-door latch - YERLY (Alan Carter)
13. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: Videoing flight - key fob camera (Robert Borger)
14. 01:59 PM - Re: SV: SV: fuel flow and return line status (glenn rainey)
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Subject: | Videoing flight - key fob camera |
Spoke to a helicopter modeller at Caernafon Airworld and he showed me a tiny key
fob video camera which can be attached to a chopper with velco, 8 ebay (+ memory
card). Checked out the quality on youtube, hard to tell the difference between
them an GoPro and much smaller.
Ordered a couple to see.
I just couldn't see where I would put a GoPro
This is the #3 apparently the #16 is higher definition, they can run for a couple
of hours and even be looped so you have the most recent 2 hours.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 45 hours
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Final call for Europa Flyers to Friedrichshafen/Biberach..... |
Hi,
Final call for Europa Flyers to Friedrichshafen/Biberach.....well not
really but available rooms are running out!
For more information about the event please click on the link:
http://aero2013.scassel.se/
You need to call the =93EuropaFlyers=94 hotel as soon as possible as they a
re
soon full.
Phone: +497351 15970. Talk to Birgit if possible.
If they are full please check *hotels.com *for available room:
http://www.hotels.com/search.do?destinationId=1640080&destination=Biber
ach+an+der+Riss%2C+Germany&searchParams.arrivalDate=25%2F04%2F2013&search
Params.departureDate=27%2F04%2F2013&rooms=1&searchParams.rooms%5B0%5D.n
umberOfAdults=1&children%5B0%5D=0&searchParams.landmark=&hotelId
More information closer to the event.
Hope to see you at Biberach
Best regards
Stephan
LN-STE
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Subject: | Re: mid-door latch - YERLY |
When I was busy completing my doors about 17 years ago, this gap between the door
forward and rear edges and the door frame made me unhappy. My solution, when
bonding in the bushes for shoot bolts into the door, was to make them project
enough to almost bridge the gap. Then I built up a flox/redux fillet around
the projecting portion of each bush to ensure the security of the bushes. Finally
I cut the pushrods to suitable lengths to make the shoot bolts engage fully
into the door frames.
As regards the truth of Bud's advice re cockpit gadgets, yeah, absolutely, right-on,
couldn't agree more. I started flying for my living in 1967 and I'm still
going strong until I retire in 2014. I've seen more gadgets than I care to remember
and they're mostly helpful when flying IFR, but could be lethal when VFR
if you allow them to reduce your lookout.
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Subject: | GS Air Strobe lights |
I have purchased wingtip strobe and navigation lights from GS Air. It comes with
a XPAK strobe driver, a pretty large and weighty piece of kit. Anyone out there
have this, and have you found a good position to mount this thing? What is
the best way of running the wires?
Also, the cabling to the wing would require a quick disconnect at the wing root.
Any tips on what I can best use for this?
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Jeroen
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165
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Subject: | Re: Videoing flight - key fob camera |
Graeme,
Link, URL, Trade Name, etc. please! I have friends with R/C models who would love
something like that.
I have a suction cup mount high on the passenger side door. The camera could be
pointed ahead or, as I have it, off pointing about 35 (2:00 position) upside
down. One needs to set the GoPro to upside down photography. Having said that,
I haven't actually flown with it like that yet. And no pictures yet. Perhaps
I can get out today and give it a go.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Mar 17, 2013, at 3:29 AM, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
Spoke to a helicopter modeller at Caernafon Airworld and he showed me a tiny key
fob video camera which can be attached to a chopper with velco, 8 ebay (+ memory
card). Checked out the quality on youtube, hard to tell the difference between
them an GoPro and much smaller.
Ordered a couple to see.
I just couldn't see where I would put a GoPro
This is the #3 apparently the #16 is higher definition, they can run for a couple
of hours and even be looped so you have the most recent 2 hours.
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 45 hours
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Re: SV: Re: SV: fuel flow and return line status |
Hi Clive
The k factor of 17030 you are using for your single transducer setup is roughly
53 percent of the standard Flowscan k factor of 32000.
On the strength of that I have just set the initial k factor of new my red cube
transducer to 36000 (53 percent of the standard red cube k factor of 68000).
I switched on the boost pump and guess what - the indicated fuel flow is 4ltrs/hr,
exactly the same as yours.
Many thanks for posting this information, it will give me a head start when I get
my Europa back in the air. My k factor will, of course, need further fine tuning
but it is good to start off with an initial k factor that is broadly correct.
Regards
John
G-JHKP mono
(Rotax 912ULS with single red cube transducer fuel flow measurement)
On 15 Mar 2013, at 21:13, "Clives email" <clive.maf@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Svein,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I regret that the 9lit/hr indicated figure I gave in
> my last email is actually wrong - 9lit/hr is indicated with the 912ULS
> running at idle and with boost pump 'on'. I just checked the boost
> pump-only flow rate (my a/c is in the garage next door for the winter), and
> it reads just over 4Lit/hr with a K factor of 17030 - which I think all
> tallies rather well with your comments about 'spot' flow rates vs totalised
> flow rates and the 9 lit/hr figures you have found. My K factor will be
> specific to the sensor/Stratomaster setup of course, other combinations may
> easily have different K factors.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Clive.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sidsel & Svein
> Johnsen
> Sent: 15 March 2013 18:19
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: SV: Europa-List: SV: Re: SV: fuel flow and return line status
>
> --> <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
>
> Hello Clive,
>
>> Thinking more about the single fuel flow setup - would you agree that
>> another way of checking the restrictor is not blocked, is simply to
> monitor
>> that there IS fuel flow without the engine running but with the boost
>> pump running? I get around 9L/hr.
>>
>> Assuming the float chambers are full and there are no external leaks,
>> not sure where else fuel can go if it is not being consumed by a
>> running
> engine. . .
>>
>> Clive
>>
>
> Yes, I do agree. This is effectively the same as I will do with my
> two-sender set-up : momentarily switch off the feed (total) flow sender and
> switch the return flow sender to the feed input as a single sender.
>
> Your 9L/hr return flow is close to what I measured when I, too, had a system
> with only one sender - I got approx. 10L/hr. However, if you have adjusted
> the k-factor to get a reasonably good totalizer function (i.e. adjusted the
> k-factor so that the displayed fuel consumed on an average flight is
> approximately correct), your actual return flow is higher than the displayed
> flow, of course.
>
> Regards,
> Svein
>
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Subject: | Final call for Europa Flyers to Friedrichshafen/Biberach..... |
Hi Stephan,
I=92m afraid that we won=92t be able to make it because of the FCL1028
(English
language capacity) : my certification has ended and there is no room in
the
exam sessions before May 15th! (There is a bottle neck due to the change
from FCL 1028 to FCL 055D).
I have a meeting with a guy of the French administration this week and
we
will see if I can find a trick. I let you (and the hotel) know before
next
weekend.
NB: the second ship is in the same situation.
Max Cointe
<mailto:mcointe@free.fr> mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 450 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn=92A=E9ro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1550 heures
De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de stephan
cassel
Envoy=E9 : dimanche 17 mars 2013 11:43
=C0 : europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Europa-List: Final call for Europa Flyers to
Friedrichshafen/Biberach.....
Hi,
Final call for Europa Flyers to Friedrichshafen/Biberach.....well not
really
but available rooms are running out!
For more information about the event please click on the link:
http://aero2013.scassel.se/
You need to call the =93EuropaFlyers=94 hotel as soon as possible as
they are
soon full.
Phone: <tel:%2B497351%2015970> +497351 15970. Talk to Birgit if
possible.
If they are full please check hotels.com for available room:
http://www.hotels.com/search.do?destinationId=1640080
<http://www.hotels.com/search.do?destinationId=1640080&destination=Bi
berach+
an+der+Riss%2C+Germany&searchParams.arrivalDate=25%2F04%2F2013&searchPa
rams.
departureDate=27%2F04%2F2013&rooms=1&searchParams.rooms%5B0%5D.number
OfAdult
s=1&children%5B0%5D=0&searchParams.landmark=&hotelId>
&destination=Biberach+an+der+Riss%2C+Germany&searchParams.arrivalDate=
25%2F0
4%2F2013&searchParams.departureDate=27%2F04%2F2013&rooms=1&searchPara
ms.room
s%5B0%5D.numberOfAdults=1&children%5B0%5D=0&searchParams.landmark=&
hotelId
More information closer to the event.
Hope to see you at Biberach
Best regards
Stephan
LN-STE
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Subject: | Re: Videoing flight - key fob camera |
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160535561804?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
808#3 car key spy camera fob
regards Graeme
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 45 hours
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Re: GS Air Strobe lights |
I fitted similar and used a 1 ft square FR4 copper clad printed circuit board straddling
the rudder cables behind the baggage bay, I mounted it on two stips
of ply reduxed to the floor about 2.25" wide and put my transponder antenna on
the underside.
I routed the cables down the tunnel and along the back of the seats.
I added connectors near the spar sockets.
This is not too good though as its can get wet.
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 45 hours
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Re: mid-door latch - YERLY |
Hi Jon.
I believe there is quite a lot of suction on the doors in flight.
If i were a builder that's exactly what i would have done.
I have quit a gap between the door and frame, this most probable is the correct
gap, but i don,t like it.
A way of reducing this gap would be to place a 1/4" thick plate with a hole for
the shoe bolt in it, this plate being fixed by 2 screws above and 2 screws below
the bolt hole.
Has any one done this.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: mid-door latch - YERLY |
Alan,
I see no one answered your email as yet. Ref Chapter 34 and 35 of the
build manual:
Test data:
The door flex at 130 Kts and 3.8 Gs is estimated at 1/4 inch total or
about 1/8 inch from each side max ( I really could only see the front
bolt door movement) measured without door seals during my LSA testing of
the Vortex Generators. Non scientific really. I just removed the seals
and put a piece of tape on the door and marked the canopy line on the
door and observed for movement in flight.
My test also allowed for a non glued in cover over the latch handle, and
a basic door without the thick wide door option assuring me that if the
door flexed, I would see it. The VGs allow a significantly higher AOA
so I had to look at another Vs as well as a new Vman or manuevering
speed to make sure there were no surprises anywhere in the airframe up
to Vne and there were none...
Door guide distances to check for:
The shoot bolt install is in your build manual and on line of course.
When built properly the distance from tip to tip of the shoot bolts when
in the unlatched position is supposed to be 952mm, but see below as I
seem to have a bit more tinkering to do. The practical minimum distance
for the un-tapered portion of the shoot bolt when installed into the
door frame guide is 3/8 to 1/2 inch penetration. If it is not, rebuild
them.
Install / repair techniques:
I personally install the shoot bolts and rods to give me 1/2 inch (12.5
mm) out of the door shoot bolt guide as a minimum, and the tip of the
bolt is flush with my guide in the door when retracted. This bit of
extra fitting keeps the door from wanting to bow out a bit and assures
me of a solid latch even with someone or thing pushing or sucking
outward on the door.
Keep in mind that during install of the guides in the fuselage, they are
to be nearly a contact fit between the door guide and fuselage guide of
no more slop than 1-2 mm total ( I use a 1/32 inch thick washer as a
placement spacer when fitting the fuselage guides to assure a tight but
acceptable closing fit). Since the shoot guide in the aircraft should
have at least 3/8 or 10mm of bolt resting inside it when latched, to
check it, use the butt end of your vernier caliper or similar, stuck in
the rear of the bolt to measure your shoot bolt installed distance into
the guide, accounting for the taper of the bolt head of course. If
yours does not meet the specs, order a new set of door rods and make it
right. A technique is to make small adjustments to the rod in the
construction (before drilling the bolt, to get the bolt extension
distance right yet allow for full retraction... Then trim and round the
rod end for proper movement of the tapered bolt. Some rebating of the
door itself may be necessary to get the guide to stay in alignment. If
you end up a bit long on the bolt, a bit of file work on the bolt tip is
OK but cleanup of debris is essential.
The prudent builder/craftsman measures twice, fits it many times, then
drills once to install the guide to the rod for a perfect fit. Polish
up the shoot bolts, assure your pins do not protrude and drag in the
guide, then install the door guides carefully so as to keep the door
shoot bolt perfectly straight on extension as per the manual. Done
properly, the doors close easily, and latch with very little force even
with the door seals installed.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
Tech Support.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Carter<mailto:alancarteresq@onetel.net>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:27 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: mid-door latch - YERLY
<alancarteresq@onetel.net<mailto:alancarteresq@onetel.net>>
Hi All.
I have the inner door handle guarded by a plate, and I have painted
the closed shadow of the door handle in Red on the outside,
I have greased the shoe bolts where they enter the frame, this made a
world of difference in taking the strain off the door handle, they close
feather light now, but also open feather light.
However with the doors properly closed, how far should the shoe bolt
go into the frame,bearing in mind there is a gap between door and frame,
and what are the chances of the actual door flexing under airflow so the
bolts could spring out you only need one to spring .
Are they any tel tell signs that could point to this happening, the
possibilities in turbulence or a dive to VNE.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: mid-door latch - YERLY |
Hi Bud.
Many thanks for your information, as i am checking a built aircraft,
If i close the door with the handle in latched position, and on the frame i should
see 3/8 to 1/2" of the "round shoe bolt rod" entering the door frame,
ignoring the tapperd length.
Alan
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Subject: | Re: Videoing flight - key fob camera |
graeme,
Thanks very much.
Flew for an hour yesterday. Winds 16G26, bumpy and unpleasant. Better today,
but not going to airport. Allergies have been acting up for several days and
I finally had to take antihistamines. So no flying today.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Mar 17, 2013, at 12:13 PM, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160535561804?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
808#3 car key spy camera fob
regards Graeme
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 45 hours
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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Subject: | Re: SV: SV: fuel flow and return line status |
Clive, group,
My recollection is the FS02 sits with the recess upstream, in other words on the
carb side not the tank side - visible when you poke it into the hose - it's
firmly lodged in there, and removal needs cutting some hose; it will not migrate?
I am nervous about any solution which involves just poking the aperture clear of
blockage. I am also concerned about a tiny restrictor fitting pushed into a
hose and maybe 'forgotten', out of the interval inspection list too.
This tiny hole is vulnerable to collecting debris, so if found blocked the fix
should I think involve root-cause discovery - in our case it was probably perishing
hose beyond swap out interval -there's plenty of it in the Europa as we
know.
Prevention is perhaps the next step? Again, methinks an in-line filter upstream,
but many extra variables there plus the whole issue of 'Approval', so we've
not considered that further.
Our Rotax agent pointed out that the carb has internally a similar sized aperture
in the fuel path.
Glenn Rainey
G-OJHL
Cumbernauld,Scotland
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