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     1. 12:31 AM - Re: Re: gas struts (Alain Chabert)
     2. 01:34 AM - Re: Re: gas struts (Bob Harrison)
     3. 03:34 AM - Re: Re: Mountain Flying (David Joyce)
     4. 05:44 AM - Re: Mountain Flying (Mark Burton)
     5. 08:33 AM - Mountain flying ()
     6. 10:01 AM - Re: Mountain flying (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     7. 11:13 AM - Re: memory map caa on android (Carl Pattinson)
 
 
 
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      Hi Bob,
      Who is "the outfit" ?
      I replaced mine with new one, but I kept the old.
      Maybe I could re load them!
      Regards
      *Alain CHABERT*
      e-mail : _alainchabert@wanadoo.fr_
      Le 12/04/13 23:04, Bob Harrison a crit :
      >
      > Hi! All
      > Yes, that was the outfit who recharged my gas struts, quick turnround and very
      obliging outfit.
      > Regards
      > Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LeeVaughan
      > Sent: 12 April 2013 20:11
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Europa-List: Re: gas struts
      >
      >
      > I was looking for the same and sent the part number to the manufacturer here's
      their reply:
      >
      > The part number you have looks correct at GS 8699-1.
      > Our records show that this was supplied complete with end fittings.
      > If you could take a look at this link http://www.industrialgassprings.com/uk/prod_info.asp?GS_No=F06-B hopefully this is the ball joint you have?
      > If not could you please advise, there is a very slim chance that you have an
      imperial thread rather than M5 stud.
      >
      > If I can be of any further assistance please do contact me.
      >
      > Best regards
      > James Godbold
      > Field Sales Manager
      > Industrial Gas Springs Ltd
      > Mobile 07768 490106                 Direct 020 8646 6596 x702
      >  james@igsltd.co.uk
      >
      >  Sales 020 8646 6595              020 8646 6594
      >  22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey, CR4 4HR www.industrialgassprings.com
      >
      >
      > Also Bansbach has what I'm told is an exact replacement as well.
      >
      > Item #AF641-104 Description: B3B3F46-100-300--001/165N  for $101.34  I ended
      up ordering this one and it has a 6 week lead time in the US.  I haven't received
      it yet.  One thing to note at least on the cylinder I have the end fittings
      are special in that it is an 8mm ball and imperial threads 10-32 which no one
      admits to having.
      >
      > Cheers,
      >
      > Lee
      >
      > --------
      > Lee
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398520#398520
      >
      >
      
      
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      Hi! Alain,
      The name and address is at the bottom of Lee=99s message. 
      I=99ve copied the details here and substituted the International 
      Code in front of their phone numbers.
      Don=99t remember having any problems over the attachment ball 
      which the others are involved with but I can=99t think that the 
      ball wears since it is steel, but the socket on the ram end being 
      plastic may need changing on a like for like basis which I think they do 
      on a re-gass event anyway, but ask them.
      Regards
      Bob Harrison \G-PTAG
      
      James Godbold
      Field Sales Manager
      Industrial Gas Springs Ltd
      Mobile 0044( 0)7768 490106                 Direct 0044(0)20 8646 6596 
      ex702 
      =C2=AF james@igsltd.co.uk
      
       Sales 0044(0)20 8646 6595             0044( 0)20 8646 6594 
       22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey, CR4 4HR www.industrialgassprings.com
      
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alain 
      Chabert
      Sent: 13 April 2013 08:31
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: gas struts
      
      
      Hi Bob,
      Who is "the outfit" ?
      I replaced mine with new one, but I kept the old.
      Maybe I could re load them!
      Regards
      
      Alain CHABERT
      e-mail : alainchabert@wanadoo.fr 
      
      Le 12/04/13 23:04, Bob Harrison a =C3=A9crit :
      
      <mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
      
      Hi! All
      Yes, that was the outfit who recharged my gas struts, quick turnround 
      and very obliging outfit.
      Regards
      Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LeeVaughan
      Sent: 12 April 2013 20:11
      Subject: Europa-List: Re: gas struts
      
      <mailto:vaughanrl@pella.com> <vaughanrl@pella.com>
      
      I was looking for the same and sent the part number to the manufacturer 
      here's their reply:
      
      The part number you have looks correct at GS 8699-1.
      Our records show that this was supplied complete with end fittings.
      If you could take a look at this link 
      http://www.industrialgassprings.com/uk/prod_info.asp?GS_No=F06-B 
      hopefully this is the ball joint you have?
      If not could you please advise, there is a very slim chance that you 
      have an imperial thread rather than M5 stud.
      
      If I can be of any further assistance please do contact me.
      
      Best regards
      James Godbold
      Field Sales Manager
      Industrial Gas Springs Ltd
      Mobile 07768 490106                =C3=AF=82=AC=C2=A8 Direct 020 8646 
      6596 x702 
      =C3=AF=82=AC=C2=AF james@igsltd.co.uk
      
      =C3=AF=82=AC=C2=A8 Sales 020 8646 6595             =C3=AF=C6=92=C5- 
      020 8646 6594 
      =C3=AF=82=AC=C2 22 Wates Way, Mitcham, Surrey, CR4 4HR 
      www.industrialgassprings.com
      
      
      Also Bansbach has what I'm told is an exact replacement as well.   
      
      Item #AF641-104 Description: B3B3F46-100-300--001/165N  for $101.34  I 
      ended up ordering this one and it has a 6 week lead time in the US.  I 
      haven't received it yet.  One thing to note at least on the cylinder I 
      have the end fittings are special in that it is an 8mm ball and imperial 
      threads 10-32 which no one admits to having.
      
      Cheers,
      
      Lee
      
      --------
      Lee
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398520#398520
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mountain Flying | 
      
      
      
      Mark, I realise I was being idle in not doing a bit more 
      research before mentioning pulse oximeters. There is a 
      good article at : 
      www.avweb.com/news/aeromedical/181896-1.html
      That gives normal (ie average in healthy people) O2 
      saturations as follows:
      10k ft - 88-93%
      13k.    - 83-88%
      16k -     75-80 %
      20k.  -   70-75%
      The authors point out that some people without 
      acclimatisation wil be fully functional at 20,000 ft 
      whereas others will be unconscious, and that here is no 
      critical level appropriate for everyone. That means to me 
      that if anyone is contemplating flying at a level 
      appreciably above 10k without O2 they would be well 
      advised to carry out experiments with an oximeters and a 
      safety pilot on oxygen.
      Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
      On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 23:33:25 -0700
        "Mark Burton" <markb@ordern.com> wrote:
      ><markb@ordern.com>
      > 
      > Hi,
      > 
      > Normals sats for a healthy (and non-COPD) person are 
      >94-98%. Below 88% is considered poor and would warrant 
      >high flow oxygen (15 LPM) through a non-rebreathing mask 
      >in the emergency situation.
      > 
      > Cheers,
      > 
      > Mark
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
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      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398536#398536
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Mountain Flying | 
      
      
      Hi David,
      
      That's useful sats/alt info.
      
      The figures I quoted are, of course, only good for low-altitude.
      
      Cheers,
      
      Mark
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398542#398542
      
      
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      - and ancillary considerations:
      
                  In early days, O2 was dispensed as a free gas. This was Ok until
      the altitude produced a pressure lower than the partial pressure of O2. **
      We were wearing soft leather gloves to offset burnt skin in a cockpit fire.
      
      Down came the order - be prepared to doff one glove when you begin to feel
      even slightly strange - it may be your oxygen system is defunct and you
      haven't seen the breath gauge if installed.
      
                  With the glove off, press down the thumb nail on the bare hand
      with your first finger. The nail should go white (blood pressed out of it).
      WHEN you let go, it should immediately go red (blood resumed). If it
      doesn't, you're in the preliminary stages of oxygen starvation. Descend,
      descend, descend.
      
                  Alcohol, smoking and several other endeavours arrange to starve
      you partially of O2 - (that's where the fun is). Familiarity with this state
      conditions your body to accept lower O2 levels and so some can suspect loss
      later than others.
      
                  Drink less, smoke less and poke your thumbnail more often and
      save money. That's what opposing digits are for.
      
      Ferg
      
      **Of course with the advanced fighters, O2 came pressurised above 36,000 or
      so and the gloves came back on because you had to physically breathe OUT and
      loss was evident instantly.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mountain flying | 
      
      
      	Hi Group
      
      
      	All this talk of supplemental oxygen raises a question:
      
      
      	Has anyone used or flown at altitude with an oxygen concentrator instead
      of an oxygen bottle? Please share details (cost, what model, where it was
      purchased, size, weight and power consumption).
      
      
      	Thx.
      
      
      	Ron Parigoris
      
      
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| Subject:  | memory map caa on android | 
      
      
      Sky-Demon have just announced their long overdue release of software to run
      on for Android phones and tablets - its available on a 30 day free trial
      basis.
      
      You might want to look at this as an alternative option.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird
      Sent: 12 April 2013 20:16
      Subject: Europa-List: memory map caa on android
      
      
      I see memory map now have the caa maps for android as well as mobile PC and
      iPhone/pad. Has anyone tried them on an android tablet?
      
      I have used one on my iphone for a few years but its a tad tiny. 600 more
      for a ipad mini is a lot to give a company I loathe.
      
      20 per map is ok though.
      
      --------
      Graeme Bird
      G-UMPY
      Mono 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
      Newby: 55 hours 1 year 
      g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398521#398521
      
      
 
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