---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 05/15/13: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 11:13 AM - How to view list photo attachments (Tony Renshaw) 2. 10:14 PM - Re: How to view list photo attachments (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:17 AM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: How to view list photo attachments Hi, I once upon knew, I think, a convoluted way of tracking down list email attachment photos, but I can't recall how that was. I get the daily list summary, but even selecting to view the HTML version, there is no obvious way to view for example Raimos trailer photos. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards Tony Renshaw Sent from my iPad On 14/05/2013, at 12:01 AM, Europa-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-05-13&Archive=Europa > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-05-13&Archive=Europa > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Europa-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 05/13/13: 8 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 12:42 AM - Europa Tailwheel (Klaus Dietrich) > 2. 12:49 AM - Re: Europa Tailwheel (GRAHAM SINGLETON) > 3. 01:02 AM - Re: Europa Tailwheel (Peter Jeffers) > 4. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Europa monowheel trailer, fuselage support (Raimo Toivio) > 5. 02:28 PM - Flyer Europa G-MLXP (Michael Davies) > 6. 02:38 PM - Re: Flyer Europa G-MLXP (Ivan Shaw) > 7. 02:52 PM - Re: Flyer Europa G-MLXP (Robert Borger) > 8. 04:23 PM - Re: Flyer Europa G-MLXP (GRAHAM SINGLETON) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:42:24 AM PST US > From: Klaus Dietrich > Subject: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel > > > I need to order a new tailwheel (and bearings...) for my Mk1; > I'm not sure about the exact dimension and order number from Spruce; is the wheel > dimension 6 x 2.125 x 5/8 and the ACS order nr: 06-03600? > > Thanks for your help! > Klaus (OE-CKD) > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:49:05 AM PST US > From: GRAHAM SINGLETON > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel > > Klaus=0AI have a spare tailwheel, not much used.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___ > _____________________________=0A From: Klaus Dietrich m>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, 13 May 2013, 8:41=0ASub > ject: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted > by: Klaus Dietrich =0A=0AI need to order a new tail > wheel (and bearings...) for my Mk1;=0AI'm not sure about the exact dimensio > n and order number from Spruce; is the wheel dimension 6 x 2.125 x 5/8- a > nd the ACS order nr: 06-03600?=0A=0AThanks for your help!=0AKlaus (OE-CKD) > ============== > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:02:41 AM PST US > From: " Peter Jeffers" > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel > > > I need to be sure of exactly what you are looking for but due conversion > from Mono to Tri gear many years ago I do still have an original tail wheel > which just may be of use to you. Perhaps a photo or scanned applicable page > from the build manual would help identify what you are looking for. > > Pete Jeffers Europa Club LAA Rep. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Dietrich > Sent: 13 May 2013 08:42 > Subject: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel > > > I need to order a new tailwheel (and bearings...) for my Mk1; > I'm not sure about the exact dimension and order number from Spruce; is the > wheel dimension 6 x 2.125 x 5/8 and the ACS order nr: 06-03600? > > Thanks for your help! > Klaus (OE-CKD) > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:56:37 AM PST US > From: "Raimo Toivio" > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa monowheel trailer, fuselage support > > Hi Phil > > I took couple of new photos and they are attached. > > You can find at least four Europa mono trailer > mods, which all are important (at least I think > so): > > 1) Fuselage support "pads". a Fuselage side of > them is softened. They are not welded - they are > removable as my daughter shows. That is a must to > make a fuselage moveable. The wing carriers are > not very stable by nature. They are normally fixed > by pip-pins only. I added locking bolts also and > now they are like welded. An extra advantage: > fuselage must be very straight before dropping > those pads to the wing carriers. These pads reduce > some heavy sideway loads from the gear /main wheel > swing. Green and red colour are just for fun. > > 2) Douple axle. 2nd axle is totally useless until > you really need it! Just one axle and an explosing > tire etc could be a first class disaster and > spoiling your fun for ever. Yes - there are > several people driving decades w/o safety belts > also... > > 3) A Trailer floor. To make a trailer stronger, to > keep an Europa cleaner and without damages when > towing. When a trailer is garaged /hangared a > floor is also useful to keep things on it. A > trailer with a floor has even multipurpose tasks. > > 4) Doupled tail lights. To make night operations > more safety ;) > > Wishes, Raimo > > OH-XRT > > > -----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- > From: flyingphil2 > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:35 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa monowheel > trailer, fuselage support > > > > This is a very timely thread for me as I'm just in > the process of doing a few mods on a mono trailer. > > I'd be very grateful if some of the previous > posters could post or send some photos of their > solutions. The only other one I know of is > Raimo's idea which has some small pads welded to > the wing carriers that hold the fuselage stable. > There is a photo of that on this forum if you > search hard enough. > > Regards, > > Phil > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399651#399651 > > > browse > Un/Subscription, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > Forums! > List Admin. > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:28:21 PM PST US > Subject: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP > From: Michael Davies > > I was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA engineering to say that the > full permit to fly was in the first class post and should be with me > tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not for the faint > hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial paperwork > going in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time and effort > in getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying and > submitting several reports on the handling and various mods in cooperated. > Bob Hallam and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also Neville Eyre > for the brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine mount frame, > both of which work superbly. John Wighton for all the technical work on the > undercarriage and Miles for all the work done prior to myself buying the > project. > Finally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally becoming a > beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some flying time in > now. > > Regards > > Mike Davies (G-MLXP) > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:38:32 PM PST US > From: "Ivan Shaw" > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP > > Mike, > > Congratulations. > > > Ivan > > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Davies > Sent: 13 May 2013 22:28 > Subject: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP > > > I was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA engineering to say that the > full permit to fly was in the first class post and should be with me > tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not for the faint > hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial paperwork going > in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time and effort in > getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying and submitting > several reports on the handling and various mods in cooperated. Bob Hallam > and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also Neville Eyre for the > brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine mount frame, both of > which work superbly. John Wighton for all the technical work on the > undercarriage and Miles for all the work done prior to myself buying the > project. > Finally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally becoming a > beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some flying time in > now. > > Regards > > Mike Davies (G-MLXP) > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:52:46 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP > From: Robert Borger > > Mike, > > Congratulations on the final payoff of your perseverance! Go fly. Take > pictures and post them for us to enjoy. > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com > > On May 13, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Michael Davies > wrote: > > I was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA engineering to say that the > full permit to fly was in the first class post and should be with me > tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not for the faint > hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial paperwork > going in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time and > effort in getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying > and submitting several reports on the handling and various mods in > cooperated. Bob Hallam and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also > Neville Eyre for the brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine > mount frame, both of which work superbly. John Wighton for all the > technical work on the undercarriage and Miles for all the work done > prior to myself buying the project. > Finally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally > becoming a beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some > flying time in now. > > Regards > > Mike Davies (G-MLXP) > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:23:31 PM PST US > From: GRAHAM SINGLETON > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP > > =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Well done Mike,=0AI've been > looking forward to that air[plane flying since I first saw it more than te > n years ago. Miles had great =0Avision but not as much perseverance as you > have!=0AGraham=0A =0A=0A=0AI was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA en > gineering to say that the full permit to fly was in the first class post an > d should be with me tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not > for the faint hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial > paperwork going in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time > and effort in getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying a > nd submitting several reports on the handling and various mods in cooperate > d. Bob Hallam and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also Neville Eyre > for the brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine mount frame, b > oth of which work superbly. John Wighton for all the technical work on the > undercarriage and Miles for all the work done prior to myself buying the pr > oject.=0AFinally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally b > ecoming a beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some flying > ==== > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: How to view list photo attachments From: Fred Klein Tony, I have no idea how others do this, but I get, rather than the "daily list summary", the email posting as they come in throughout the day...they get delivered into a "Europa" mailbox I've set up on my Mac using the mail program which came pre-installed on the computer...the attachments are viewable directly. Fred On May 15, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Tony Renshaw wrote: > > Hi, > I once upon knew, I think, a convoluted way of tracking down list email attachment photos, but I can't recall how that was. I get the daily list summary, but even selecting to view the HTML version, there is no obvious way to view for example Raimos trailer photos. Any help would be much appreciated. > Regards > Tony Renshaw > > Sent from my iPad > > On 14/05/2013, at 12:01 AM, Europa-List Digest Server wrote: > >> * >> >> ================================================= >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ================================================= >> >> Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >> of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. >> >> HTML Version: >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-05-13&Archive=Europa >> >> Text Version: >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-05-13&Archive=Europa >> >> >> =============================================== >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> =============================================== >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Europa-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Mon 05/13/13: 8 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> >> 1. 12:42 AM - Europa Tailwheel (Klaus Dietrich) >> 2. 12:49 AM - Re: Europa Tailwheel (GRAHAM SINGLETON) >> 3. 01:02 AM - Re: Europa Tailwheel (Peter Jeffers) >> 4. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Europa monowheel trailer, fuselage support (Raimo Toivio) >> 5. 02:28 PM - Flyer Europa G-MLXP (Michael Davies) >> 6. 02:38 PM - Re: Flyer Europa G-MLXP (Ivan Shaw) >> 7. 02:52 PM - Re: Flyer Europa G-MLXP (Robert Borger) >> 8. 04:23 PM - Re: Flyer Europa G-MLXP (GRAHAM SINGLETON) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 12:42:24 AM PST US >> From: Klaus Dietrich >> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel >> >> >> I need to order a new tailwheel (and bearings...) for my Mk1; >> I'm not sure about the exact dimension and order number from Spruce; is the wheel >> dimension 6 x 2.125 x 5/8 and the ACS order nr: 06-03600? >> >> Thanks for your help! >> Klaus (OE-CKD) >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 12:49:05 AM PST US >> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel >> >> Klaus=0AI have a spare tailwheel, not much used.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___ >> _____________________________=0A From: Klaus Dietrich > m>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, 13 May 2013, 8:41=0ASub >> ject: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted >> by: Klaus Dietrich =0A=0AI need to order a new tail >> wheel (and bearings...) for my Mk1;=0AI'm not sure about the exact dimensio >> n and order number from Spruce; is the wheel dimension 6 x 2.125 x 5/8- a >> nd the ACS order nr: 06-03600?=0A=0AThanks for your help!=0AKlaus (OE-CKD) >> ============== >> >> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 01:02:41 AM PST US >> From: " Peter Jeffers" >> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel >> >> >> I need to be sure of exactly what you are looking for but due conversion >> from Mono to Tri gear many years ago I do still have an original tail wheel >> which just may be of use to you. Perhaps a photo or scanned applicable page >> from the build manual would help identify what you are looking for. >> >> Pete Jeffers Europa Club LAA Rep. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Klaus Dietrich >> Sent: 13 May 2013 08:42 >> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Tailwheel >> >> >> I need to order a new tailwheel (and bearings...) for my Mk1; >> I'm not sure about the exact dimension and order number from Spruce; is the >> wheel dimension 6 x 2.125 x 5/8 and the ACS order nr: 06-03600? >> >> Thanks for your help! >> Klaus (OE-CKD) >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 06:56:37 AM PST US >> From: "Raimo Toivio" >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa monowheel trailer, fuselage support >> >> Hi Phil >> >> I took couple of new photos and they are attached. >> >> You can find at least four Europa mono trailer >> mods, which all are important (at least I think >> so): >> >> 1) Fuselage support "pads". a Fuselage side of >> them is softened. They are not welded - they are >> removable as my daughter shows. That is a must to >> make a fuselage moveable. The wing carriers are >> not very stable by nature. They are normally fixed >> by pip-pins only. I added locking bolts also and >> now they are like welded. An extra advantage: >> fuselage must be very straight before dropping >> those pads to the wing carriers. These pads reduce >> some heavy sideway loads from the gear /main wheel >> swing. Green and red colour are just for fun. >> >> 2) Douple axle. 2nd axle is totally useless until >> you really need it! Just one axle and an explosing >> tire etc could be a first class disaster and >> spoiling your fun for ever. Yes - there are >> several people driving decades w/o safety belts >> also... >> >> 3) A Trailer floor. To make a trailer stronger, to >> keep an Europa cleaner and without damages when >> towing. When a trailer is garaged /hangared a >> floor is also useful to keep things on it. A >> trailer with a floor has even multipurpose tasks. >> >> 4) Doupled tail lights. To make night operations >> more safety ;) >> >> Wishes, Raimo >> >> OH-XRT >> >> >> -----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- >> From: flyingphil2 >> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:35 PM >> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa monowheel >> trailer, fuselage support >> >> >> >> This is a very timely thread for me as I'm just in >> the process of doing a few mods on a mono trailer. >> >> I'd be very grateful if some of the previous >> posters could post or send some photos of their >> solutions. The only other one I know of is >> Raimo's idea which has some small pads welded to >> the wing carriers that hold the fuselage stable. >> There is a photo of that on this forum if you >> search hard enough. >> >> Regards, >> >> Phil >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=399651#399651 >> >> >> browse >> Un/Subscription, >> FAQ, >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> Forums! >> List Admin. >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 02:28:21 PM PST US >> Subject: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP >> From: Michael Davies >> >> I was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA engineering to say that the >> full permit to fly was in the first class post and should be with me >> tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not for the faint >> hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial paperwork >> going in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time and effort >> in getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying and >> submitting several reports on the handling and various mods in cooperated. >> Bob Hallam and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also Neville Eyre >> for the brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine mount frame, >> both of which work superbly. John Wighton for all the technical work on the >> undercarriage and Miles for all the work done prior to myself buying the >> project. >> Finally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally becoming a >> beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some flying time in >> now. >> >> Regards >> >> Mike Davies (G-MLXP) >> >> ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 02:38:32 PM PST US >> From: "Ivan Shaw" >> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP >> >> Mike, >> >> Congratulations. >> >> >> Ivan >> >> >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Davies >> Sent: 13 May 2013 22:28 >> Subject: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP >> >> >> I was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA engineering to say that the >> full permit to fly was in the first class post and should be with me >> tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not for the faint >> hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial paperwork going >> in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time and effort in >> getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying and submitting >> several reports on the handling and various mods in cooperated. Bob Hallam >> and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also Neville Eyre for the >> brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine mount frame, both of >> which work superbly. John Wighton for all the technical work on the >> undercarriage and Miles for all the work done prior to myself buying the >> project. >> Finally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally becoming a >> beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some flying time in >> now. >> >> Regards >> >> Mike Davies (G-MLXP) >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 02:52:46 PM PST US >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP >> From: Robert Borger >> >> Mike, >> >> Congratulations on the final payoff of your perseverance! Go fly. Take >> pictures and post them for us to enjoy. >> >> Blue skies & tailwinds, >> Bob Borger >> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. >> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP >> 3705 Lynchburg Dr. >> Corinth, TX 76208-5331 >> Cel: 817-992-1117 >> rlborger@mac.com >> >> On May 13, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Michael Davies >> wrote: >> >> I was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA engineering to say that the >> full permit to fly was in the first class post and should be with me >> tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not for the faint >> hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial paperwork >> going in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time and >> effort in getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying >> and submitting several reports on the handling and various mods in >> cooperated. Bob Hallam and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also >> Neville Eyre for the brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine >> mount frame, both of which work superbly. John Wighton for all the >> technical work on the undercarriage and Miles for all the work done >> prior to myself buying the project. >> Finally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally >> becoming a beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some >> flying time in now. >> >> Regards >> >> Mike Davies (G-MLXP) >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ >> >> >> Time: 04:23:31 PM PST US >> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flyer Europa G-MLXP >> >> =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Well done Mike,=0AI've been >> looking forward to that air[plane flying since I first saw it more than te >> n years ago. Miles had great =0Avision but not as much perseverance as you >> have!=0AGraham=0A =0A=0A=0AI was sent an email today from Maxine at LAA en >> gineering to say that the full permit to fly was in the first class post an >> d should be with me tomorrow. Getting a major mod through these days is not >> for the faint hearted. It has taken approximately 7months from the initial >> paperwork going in. I must thank all people who have put in a lot of time >> and effort in getting to this stage. Brian Fogg for doing the test flying a >> nd submitting several reports on the handling and various mods in cooperate >> d. Bob Hallam and Roy Clarke for all the inspection work. Also Neville Eyre >> for the brilliant work he as done on the cowling and engine mount frame, b >> oth of which work superbly. John Wighton for all the technical work on the >> undercarriage and Miles for all the work done prior to myself buying the pr >> oject.=0AFinally LAA Engineering for keeping the project alive to finally b >> ecoming a beautiful flying machine. Looking forward to getting some flying >> ==== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.