---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/23/13: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:09 AM - Re: Flap Bracket Repaint advice? (spcialeffects) 2. 12:19 AM - Re: Airmaster AC200 Feather light on during flight (Max Cointe (Free)) 3. 03:07 AM - Re: Preheating glass cloth (nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk) 4. 04:21 AM - Re: Airmaster AC200 Feather light on during flight (GBWFH2010) 5. 04:55 AM - Re: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures (Kingsley Hurst) 6. 07:34 AM - Re: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures (Robert Borger) 7. 08:51 AM - Re: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures (AirEupora) 8. 10:48 AM - Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 (Alan Carter) 9. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 (Robert Borger) 10. 11:41 AM - Re: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures (rampil) 11. 01:05 PM - Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 (Alan Carter) 12. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 (Robert Borger) 13. 03:30 PM - Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 (Alan Carter) 14. 06:42 PM - Re: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap Bracket Repaint advice? From: "spcialeffects" I am having as much paint work of metal parts powder coated as this gives a harder wearing finish, even parts that I have alocromed before hand. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401178#401178 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:03 AM PST US From: "Max Cointe (Free)" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster AC200 Feather light on during flight Hi there, To me this is normal as the controller tries permanently to adjust the pitch and lights just indicate the way it moves. At least it's how our's works! You can also refer to the user's guide or contact your local Airmaster rep. Cheers, Max Cointe mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 450 hours F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1550 heures -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Tim Ward Envoy: mercredi 22 mai 2013 21:49 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet: Re: Europa-List: Airmaster AC200 Feather light on during flight Hi Gordon, If the prop is operating within its optimum range than the feather green light should definitely not be flickering on. The other flickering lights indicate which way the propeller is adjusting to fine the best pitch to optimize the performance. Green light is the prop is going to a finer pitch and the yellow light means it is trying to find a coarser pitch. Martin at Airmaster will be able to help. Contact him via the Airmaster web site. Maybe a connection problem. Does the RPM change with the feather light on? If not then it is an indication problem. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 On 23/05/2013, at 6:16 AM, "GBWFH2010" wrote: > > When flying today the Airmaster propeller appeared to function perfectly, however every so often at seemingly random intervals the green FEATHER lamp would light for one or two seconds and then extinguish. The propeller did not attempt to feather but it is somewhat disconcerting to see this illuminated. > > What I did notice was a very slight flickering of all the instrument needles. Could this be coincidence or is this linked to the spurious prop indication? I have checked all the earthing on the aircraft and could not find any obvious fault. > > Does anyone have any suggestions regarding what could be causing this problem and what I should check? > > -------- > Gordon Grant > > G-BWFH > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401126#401126 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:18 AM PST US From: "nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Preheating glass cloth Tony, ideally you need to aim to achieve a stable working environment (workshop and airframe) temperature of around 25c. Both the resin and the cloth benefit from storage in warm dry conditions. If the cloth is old or has been left in a damp atmosphere, the sizing deteriorates with a result that it will not wet-out properly, you will recognise this by the white "dry" areas within the filaments of the laminate. That is why the build manual recommends heating the cloth storage cabinet with a low wattage light bulb. If in any doubt, buy some new cloth (and never fold it as the crease will "set"). Trying to wet-laminate with viscous resin is a pain and usually results in heavy "resin-rich" laminations, you can warm it to thin it, but this reduces its pot life -- also a pain. Most of my experience has been with the SP Systems (now Gurit) resin and I found that the slower hardener was far less viscous, giving the double benefit of a longer working-time and much more satisfying to work with. Check the West Systems datasheets to see if less viscous hardeners are available. Lastly, if you need to use localised heat, do so with care. The gentle warmth from a hair dryer is fine but the vicious heat from a hot-air gun or paint-stripper will almost certainly destroy or distort the work-piece. At best it can cause localised exothermic reactions, which will render the job unusable. The trick is to prepare everything the day before - warm the workshop, lay out everything you need. When you've finished, drop the brush into a pot of vinegar (much cheaper than Acetone) and just leave everything alone (don't attempt to clean up - you'll just spread the goo over everything. Just walk away. The next day when everything had dried, you can clean up easily. Good luck! Nigel On 22/05/2013 23:26, Tony Renshaw wrote: om> > >> Hi, I'm laying up here in Sydney in temperatures that have recently tu rned towards our winter. I'm using West Systems which already does not we t out the cloth as well as the SP Systems, and has a shorter pot life, al beit in warmer weather. I'm preheating the job area, the Lift Pin externa l reinforcement lay ups, and mixing the resin and hardener under workshop spotlights that generate a lot of localised heat. The glass cloth though is cold, and I am wondering about placing it in foil in the oven to heat it up pre layup. I even thought of microwaving it, when my wife isn't at home. Any thoughts on the wisdom or otherwise of doing this? I want to m ake the cold cloth as conducive as possible to allow ingress of the resin into the individual fibres of a single thread, as I occasionally have ha d some small splinter strait ions in these layups that appear to be micro dry areas along certain fibres, but the matrix between them is fully wet ted out. Thanks in anticipation. > Regards > Tony Renshaw > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:21:52 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Airmaster AC200 Feather light on during flight From: "GBWFH2010" Thank you for you replies. Just to confirm the FINE/COARSE green/amber indicators seem to be working correctly as the propeller adjusts in flight. I have been in contact with Martin at Airmaster and he has suggested cleaning the slip rings and checking the brushes, which has been done recently but I will do again. Also, he suggested it could be a faulty feather microswitch and I have some additional tests to perform. It could well be the controller is misinterpreting the signals, but this will be more difficult to prove. Of course there could well be an underlying electrical problem (I have a Rotax 912 UL), but I can't find anything obvious. -------- Gordon Grant G-BWFH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401181#401181 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:44 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures From: Kingsley Hurst > > FWIW, my XS Trigear conversion with 914, Airmaster 332 straight blades, has been doing ........ Thanks Bob. Hope everything is going well with you. Must be a hard decision deciding which aircraft to fly! Best regards Kingsley Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures From: Robert Borger Hi Kingsley, Things going reasonably well. Not difficult at all to decide right now. The Toot is still under construction. I hope to have it ready to fly to Oshkosh in 2014. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 23, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Kingsley Hurst wrote: > > FWIW, my XS Trigear conversion with 914, Airmaster 332 straight blades, has been doing ........ Thanks Bob. Hope everything is going well with you. Must be a hard decision deciding which aircraft to fly! Best regards Kingsley Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures From: "AirEupora" When I had the FAA inspect my plane I used the 1370 as the Utility weight and the 1450 as the Normal Utility weight. I used the attached letter as the basis for the 1450 weight. In the Utility category I can do the acrobatic maneuvers that I have demo during Phase I flight. My empty Weight is 974lbs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401195#401195 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/mtom__statement_re_max_t_o_weight1_197.pdf ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:29 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 From: "Alan Carter" Hi Bob. Have you heard the dread full news of what happened over here. 300$ is 200 so it about 100 cheaper. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401225#401225 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 From: Robert Borger Alan, Yes, it's all over the news here. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/05/23/brave-woman-tried-to-reason-with-london-attackers/ Really ugly thing to happen. So, your cost in is about the same as our cost in $? That sucks. Do you think it would be worthwhile for someone to purchase it over here and then send it on? I'm sure you'd have to pay import duties, etc. Or, if you know someone coming over who could hand-carry it back? Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 23, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alan Carter wrote: Hi Bob. Have you heard the dread full news of what happened over here. 300$ is 200 so it about 100 cheaper. Alan ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:28 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Monowheel to trigear conversion - figures From: "rampil" My Europa (A224) is one of those with a registered gross weight of 1450 Lbs. The procedure was quite simple: after Discussion with Andy, Russell, and Bud, I simply entered that number in the Program letter / Op Limits document. It was not based on destructive testing, nor was it required to be. I expect the GW of 1450 will be useful when I add the Glider wings in a few months. Sadly, I do not expect the 9 yr flying experience of a US-registered AC to be of use in the UK. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401232#401232 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:09 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 From: "Alan Carter" Hi Bob. Wrote to my MP about three months ago, he did not bother to answer, They live on a different plant, total wast of time. I do know a pilot that fly,s to the states, but not the thing you find around the airport. I will try a second hand suppler first, see how i get on. Its the right mag, so know from my posts it one of the 2 front coils, Last time i swapped top to bottom, sod of a job, rotax manual , split and remove inlet manifold to get at the nuts and bolts, crazy design, did that. Then discovered little fingers and ball ended allen keys and a lot of cursing. This time buy new mag , tape it in, connect supply and HT leads, start and test. its one of the two. Any comments you can think of, Regards. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401243#401243 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 From: Robert Borger Alan, If your pilot bud comes through the DFW area and you have sufficient notice, time for me to order and receive one, I can meet him with the module. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 23, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alan Carter wrote: Hi Bob. Wrote to my MP about three months ago, he did not bother to answer, They live on a different plant, total wast of time. I do know a pilot that fly,s to the states, but not the thing you find around the airport. I will try a second hand suppler first, see how i get on. Its the right mag, so know from my posts it one of the 2 front coils, Last time i swapped top to bottom, sod of a job, rotax manual , split and remove inlet manifold to get at the nuts and bolts, crazy design, did that. Then discovered little fingers and ball ended allen keys and a lot of cursing. This time buy new mag , tape it in, connect supply and HT leads, start and test. its one of the two. Any comments you can think of, Regards. Alan ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:30:02 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 From: "Alan Carter" Thanks Bob, Dallas, i don.t know, that,s very kind of you, i will ask him , It would be a BA 747 , but i will give the second hand route a go first. Alan. PS, My new Permit came through today, now have the clamps on and the cir clips and wires fitted, will be writing about it on the Europa Form when i get time. did i send you photo,s ? Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401257#401257 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Right mag drop and rought running on 914 From: Robert Borger Alan, Good luck. I hope you can work something out. If not, the alternate is always there. No, you have not sent photos. Please do. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On May 23, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Alan Carter wrote: Thanks Bob, Dallas, i don.t know, that,s very kind of you, i will ask him , It would be a BA 747 , but i will give the second hand route a go first. Alan. PS, My new Permit came through today, now have the clamps on and the cir clips and wires fitted, will be writing about it on the Europa Form when i get time. did i send you photo,s ? 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