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1. 12:50 AM - Croatia Europa trip 6th July (Bob Hitchcock)
2. 02:24 AM - Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
3. 02:41 AM - Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July (Bob Hitchcock)
4. 02:57 AM - Microair 760, receiving problems (Roland)
5. 03:29 AM - Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July (Bob Harrison)
6. 03:57 AM - Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July (Bob Hitchcock)
7. 03:58 AM - Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (Frans Veldman)
8. 04:25 AM - Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
9. 04:34 AM - Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (Roland)
10. 04:56 AM - Re: Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (Robert Borger)
11. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (Christoph Both)
12. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (Pete Lawless)
13. 07:57 AM - Re: Microair 760, receiving problems (Roland)
14. 09:03 AM - Re: Europa fly-in - Popham (Neville Eyre)
15. 05:46 PM - Rotax 914 Parts CD6 and CD7 (N6ZY)
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| Subject: | Croatia Europa trip 6th July |
Reminder call for the Europa club trip to the Balkan peninsula leaving 6th J
uly. Some space remains
Innsbruck
To eat Pr=C3=BCgeltorte cake
The beautiful Medieval buildings of the Old Town, the famous Golden Roof gl
inting in the sunlight and, towering above it, the 2,000 metre-high peaks of
the Nordkette mountain range.
Pula
To eat Zagreba=C4=8Dki odrezak (Veal steaks stuffed with ham and cheese and g
rilled with breadcrumbs)
Stroll along the streets of the city of Pula you will be astonished by the c
ultural masterpieces which create the landscapes of this cultural city. The r
ich itenirary of cultural monuments definitely begins with the grand ampithe
tre, the Arena of Pula. Once hosting thousands of spectators of gladiator fi
ghts. The Arena is the only remaining Roman architecture with all four side t
owers and three architectural orders completely preserved.
Plus mountains and blue sea.
All the above is to give a taster. But as we know on the these trips, the ad
venture unfolds each day
Regards
Bob
GBYSA EUROPA XS MONO
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| Subject: | Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July |
Bob=0Adid you know the Manager of Pula airport offered Europa club a diosco
unt next time we went?=0AThat was the first trip to Brac Island a few years
ago, 9 Europas. =0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________
=0A From: Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>=0ATo: Europa List <eu
ropa-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 8:49=0ASubject: Eu
ropa-List: Croatia Europa trip 6th July=0A =0A=0A=0AReminder call for the E
uropa club =C2-trip to the Balkan peninsula leaving=C2-6th July. =C2-
Some space remains=0A=0AInnsbruck=0ATo eat Pr=C3=BCgeltorte cake=C2-=0A
=0AThe =C2-beautiful Medieval buildings of the Old Town, the famous Golde
n Roof glinting in the sunlight and, towering above it, the 2,000 metre-hig
h peaks of the Nordkette mountain range.=C2-=0A=0APula=0ATo eat Zagreba
=C4=8Dki odrezak (Veal steaks stuffed with ham and cheese and grilled with
breadcrumbs)=0A=0AStroll along the streets of the city of Pula you will be
astonished by the cultural masterpieces which create the landscapes of this
cultural city. The rich itenirary of cultural monuments definitely begins
with the grand ampithetre, the Arena of Pula. Once hosting thousands of spe
ctators of gladiator fights. The Arena is the only remaining Roman architec
ture with all four side towers and three architectural orders completely pr
eserved.=0A=0APlus mountains and blue sea.=C2-=0A=0AAll the above is to g
ive a taster. But as we know on the these trips, the adventure unfolds each
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| Subject: | Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July |
Hi Graham
I will remind him!
Regards
Bob
On 18 Jun 2013, at 10:23, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> w
rote:
> Bob
> did you know the Manager of Pula airport offered Europa club a dioscount n
ext time we went?
> That was the first trip to Brac Island a few years ago, 9 Europas.
> Graham
>
>
> From: Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
> To: Europa List <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 8:49
> Subject: Europa-List: Croatia Europa trip 6th July
>
> Reminder call for the Europa club trip to the Balkan peninsula leaving 6t
h July. Some space remains
>
> Innsbruck
> To eat Pr=C3=BCgeltorte cake
>
> The beautiful Medieval buildings of the Old Town, the famous Golden Roof g
linting in the sunlight and, towering above it, the 2,000 metre-high peaks o
f the Nordkette mountain range.
>
> Pula
> To eat Zagreba=C4=8Dki odrezak (Veal steaks stuffed with ham and cheese an
d grilled with breadcrumbs)
>
> Stroll along the streets of the city of Pula you will be astonished by the
cultural masterpieces which create the landscapes of this cultural city. Th
e rich itenirary of cultural monuments definitely begins with the grand ampi
thetre, the Arena of Pula. Once hosting thousands of spectators of gladiator
fights. The Arena is the only remaining Roman architecture with all four si
de towers and three architectural orders completely preserved.
>
> Plus mountains and blue sea.
>
> All the above is to give a taster. But as we know on the these trips, the a
dventure unfolds each day
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
> GBYSA EUROPA XS MONO
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| Subject: | Microair 760, receiving problems |
Hi all,
maybe we have an avionics specialist here because we are running out of ideas.
I have a Microair 760 installed in my Europa. My mate is ATC-engineer but he could
not get hold of the following problem yet even when using the most expensive
equipment (I have no clue at all about this strange matter). Of course I also
will get in contact with Microair (I'm afraid they will ask me to ship the
transceiver to Australia for check/repair, beside that I have to search for the
serial number on the installed transceiver, which the previous owner did kindly
not notice in the appropriate field on the manual). I need a 8,33 KHz transceiver
anyway, but have time until 2018 and I am reluctant to spend the money
now.
Okay - here comes his letter for Microair:
AGC-Trouble at Microair 760-Transceiver
Our Transceiver Microair 760 has a Trouble to receive signals from stations at
ground with low power and great distance.
The squelch (setting at Minimum) opens, the green LED is on, but there is no audiosignal
to hear in the headsets. Some ATC-stations in Germany are not readable
in the aircraft. The Stations can read our transmission loud and clear, so
it seems to be only a Receiver-problem.
The Transceiver is properly installed in an aircraft Europa XS with Lambda/Half
Copper-strip-Dipol in the Rudderfin, connected with 6 m Cable RG 58/U and BNC-Coax-Terminator.
BNC-Terminator, Cable and Antenna are checked with Network-Analyzer Rhode&Schwarz
FSH4, no unexpected reflection on the cable and the antenna is normal. The
Reflection of Antenna was displayed at a distance of 6,5 m, that seems ok.
Then we tested the Microair 760 with an calibrated HP 8648 C Signalgenerator and
RG58-Cble direct in the Aircraft. The AM-modulation was set to 50% with Frequencies
400 Hz and 1KHz.
These are the Measurement results:
Squelch-setting without signal at minimum, squelch is broken by RF-Signals from
the generator greater than -121 dBm ( 0,22 V ). We had no NF-Voltmeter to control
the audio-signal, only Headset and subjective ears.
At this very low RF-inputlevel we can hear low noise and no modulation.
Pulling up the RF-Level to -110 dBm, low noise, and weak modulation.
At -100 dBm the noiselevel seems unchanged, the modulation is clear and loud.
By pulling up the RF-Inputlevel to values -90 dBm and -80 dBm, the noiselevel seems
unchanged, but the audiolevel increases proportional to the RF-Inputlevel.
This effect is observerved up to Inputlevel of -40dBm to -35dBm, than we can hear
unchanged and constant modulation signal at higher RF-Inputlevels up to -25
dBm.
This effect was measured at all Frequencys in the Airband from 118,00 MHz up to
136,00 MHz in 2 MHz Steps and selected Frequencys, were the Receive-Problems
were reported.
With an Handheld-Transceiver Sportys, the Measurement was done in the same way
to compare the results. This receiver is not so sensitive, his squelch opens at
-110 dBm.
But here we have normal conditions, the noiselevel is high, the modulation is loud,
but distorted. By increasing the RF-Inputlevel, the noiselevel is decreasing,
modulation-level is unchanged. Proportional to the Inputlevel, the distortion
of modulation decreases, the level is unchanged. This receiver operates normal.
So it seems there is an error in the AGC or in the interference part. The audiolevel
follows the RF-Inputlevel.
How can we fix this problem, is there an easy way at a local Avionics service,
or must the transceiver shipped to Australia?
Thanks for any ideas!
Roland
PH-ZTI
XS Trigear 914
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| Subject: | Croatia Europa trip 6th July |
And............................last August when Ivor and I visited
Portaroz , Slovenia for fuel prior to Venice Lido they were very
accommodating and were really promoting that we should return.
If you have Dubrovnik on schedule be sure to follow the VFR route in AND
out and have your cameras at the ready since you get to pass the town
only one way .( depending on the approach direction and wind)
Ivor fixed us accommodation there .........allied to an open air
restaurant where the Kayaks are operated from , only a matter of yards
North from the town centre and tour bus drop off point (North Gate to
the walled city)
Have a good trip.
Bob H G-PTAG
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Hitchcock
Sent: 18 June 2013 10:41
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Croatia Europa trip 6th July
Hi Graham
I will remind him!
Regards
Bob
On 18 Jun 2013, at 10:23, GRAHAM SINGLETON
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
Bob
did you know the Manager of Pula airport offered Europa club a dioscount
next time we went?
That was the first trip to Brac Island a few years ago, 9 Europas.
Graham
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From: Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 8:49
Subject: Europa-List: Croatia Europa trip 6th July
Reminder call for the Europa club trip to the Balkan peninsula leaving
6th July. Some space remains
Innsbruck
To eat Pr=C3=BCgeltorte cake
The beautiful Medieval buildings of the Old Town, the famous Golden
Roof glinting in the sunlight and, towering above it, the 2,000
metre-high peaks of the Nordkette mountain range.
Pula
To eat Zagreba=C4=8Dki odrezak (Veal steaks stuffed with ham and cheese
and grilled with breadcrumbs)
Stroll along the streets of the city of Pula you will be astonished by
the cultural masterpieces which create the landscapes of this cultural
city. The rich itenirary of cultural monuments definitely begins with
the grand ampithetre, the Arena of Pula. Once hosting thousands of
spectators of gladiator fights. The Arena is the only remaining Roman
architecture with all four side towers and three architectural orders
completely preserved.
Plus mountains and blue sea.
All the above is to give a taster. But as we know on the these trips,
the adventure unfolds each day
Regards
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Croatia Europa trip 6th July |
Thanks Bob
Regards Bob
On 18 Jun 2013, at 11:29, "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> And............................last August when Ivor and I visited Portar
oz , Slovenia for fuel prior to Venice Lido they were very accommodating an
d were really promoting that we should return.
> If you have Dubrovnik on schedule be sure to follow the VFR route in AND o
ut and have your cameras at the ready since you get to pass the town only o
ne way .( depending on the approach direction and wind)
> Ivor fixed us accommodation there .........allied to an open air restauran
t where the Kayaks are operated from , only a matter of yards North from t
he town centre and tour bus drop off point (North Gate to the walled city)
>
> Have a good trip.
> Bob H G-PTAG
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hitchcock
> Sent: 18 June 2013 10:41
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Croatia Europa trip 6th July
>
> Hi Graham
>
> I will remind him!
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
> On 18 Jun 2013, at 10:23, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com
> wrote:
>
> Bob
> did you know the Manager of Pula airport offered Europa club a dioscount n
ext time we went?
> That was the first trip to Brac Island a few years ago, 9 Europas.
> Graham
>
>
> From: Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
> To: Europa List <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 8:49
> Subject: Europa-List: Croatia Europa trip 6th July
>
> Reminder call for the Europa club trip to the Balkan peninsula leaving 6t
h July. Some space remains
>
> Innsbruck
> To eat Pr=C3=BCgeltorte cake
>
> The beautiful Medieval buildings of the Old Town, the famous Golden Roof g
linting in the sunlight and, towering above it, the 2,000 metre-high peaks o
f the Nordkette mountain range.
>
> Pula
> To eat Zagreba=C4=8Dki odrezak (Veal steaks stuffed with ham and cheese an
d grilled with breadcrumbs)
>
> Stroll along the streets of the city of Pula you will be astonished by the
cultural masterpieces which create the landscapes of this cultural city. Th
e rich itenirary of cultural monuments definitely begins with the grand ampi
thetre, the Arena of Pula. Once hosting thousands of spectators of gladiator
fights. The Arena is the only remaining Roman architecture with all four si
de towers and three architectural orders completely preserved.
>
> Plus mountains and blue sea.
>
> All the above is to give a taster. But as we know on the these trips, the a
dventure unfolds each day
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
> GBYSA EUROPA XS MONO
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
On 06/18/2013 11:56 AM, Roland wrote:
> maybe we have an avionics specialist here because we are running out of ideas.
What's the problem here? The trancseiver is clearly broken and needs to
be repaired or replaced. Nothing else you can do.
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
I'll be interested to know if Microair are still in business?=0AGraham=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Frans Veldman <frans@
privatepilots.nl>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, 18 June
2013, 11:58=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Microair 760, receiving problems
lots.nl>=0A=0AOn 06/18/2013 11:56 AM, Roland wrote:=0A=0A> maybe we have an
avionics specialist here because we are running out of ideas.=0A=0AWhat's
the problem here? The trancseiver is clearly broken and needs to=0Abe repai
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
Okay, thanks anyway for this idea ;-)
In that case - has maybe anyone on this forum experience in shipping a Microair
to the factory for repair? Of special interest is for me, how long it takes and
how much they charge (if the problem was comparable of course).
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=402929#402929
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
Roland,
The MicroAir website is http://www.microair.com.au
There is a "CONTACT US" link in the upper left bunch of links.
I have used the contact form and they have responded the next day. They can probably
provide you with a local service center if one is available.
I have never had to ship a unit back for repair so I can not provide that information.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:34 AM, Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
Okay, thanks anyway for this idea ;-)
In that case - has maybe anyone on this forum experience in shipping a Microair
to the factory for repair? Of special interest is for me, how long it takes and
how much they charge (if the problem was comparable of course).
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
Hi Roland:
I sent my transponder from Canada to Australia last year for an upgrade.
It is very important that you have the shipment accompanied with a special
form they can email to you claiming that you are the owner and merely
shipping it to them for repair as confusion can arise from customs on both
sides if this is merchandise potentially sold, and therefore triggering
import taxes. Microair has the form, just ask for it. Also, unless you
need fast turn around, avoid shipping using a courier service like FedEx
or Purolator as they might charge significant "handling fees" on both
sides for border crossing paperwork. While fast and very professional,
they are also very expensive, especially to Australia. I specifically
asked Microair to return to me via air mail by Postal service. It came to
app. $40 each way, and postal service in Canada handled all paperwork
without charge, just the VAT, sales tax was added to the repair cost,
which Microair will declare in the paperwork, and you must pay for.
However, I have received postal service in the past and customs did not
even bother to collect. With FedEx & Co you will always pay. Yes, turn
around took about 4 weeks, but saved a lot of money. It is also a good
idea to request an estimate from Microair before shipping, and another one
from them once the shipment has been received. We had discussions about an
initially too high estimate and they became more reasonable after
discussion.
I have both the old 760COM and TFSL transponder, the latter being part of
my panel, the 760 exchanged for a new MGL V-6 Com which has a lot of
features the old 760 can not provide. Did you have a look at the new DYNON
radio? One could have two radios side by side taking the place of one 2.25
radio stack space...
Christoph Both
#223 readying for final inspection
Wolfville, Canada
On 13-06-18 8:34 AM, "Roland" <schmidtroland@web.de> wrote:
>
>Okay, thanks anyway for this idea ;-)
>
>In that case - has maybe anyone on this forum experience in shipping a
>Microair to the factory for repair? Of special interest is for me, how
>long it takes and how much they charge (if the problem was comparable of
>course).
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=402929#402929
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
Hi Roland
When my Microair caused problems Microair put me in contact Alan Mothersdale
here in the UK. He used to be the UK support man for Microair and fixed my
set under warrantee.
Worth asking him, although it was about 5 years ago when I last had dealings
with him.
Land line +441480810544
Mobile +447721759749
Regards
Pete
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Sent: 18 June 2013 12:34
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Microair 760, receiving problems
Okay, thanks anyway for this idea ;-)
In that case - has maybe anyone on this forum experience in shipping a
Microair to the factory for repair? Of special interest is for me, how long
it takes and how much they charge (if the problem was comparable of course).
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| Subject: | Re: Microair 760, receiving problems |
Gentlemen,
thank you all for your replies!
Bob, I also found this form on the Microair website but still have to search for
the serial number which they ask for (only have it on the transceiver and unfortunately
I dont have the quick removable subpanels in my cockpit).
Christoph, shipping and repair seem to add up to a pretty amount of money, plus
I would have to disclaim on flying for at least four weeks without express postage.
I also can make use of the Microair only for a few years to come, so I
doubt if this pays off.
Pete, Ill also take into consideration to get in contact with Alan if I decide
to repair it.
Regards
Roland
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| Subject: | Re: Europa fly-in - Popham |
Typical ! Never a Lockheed AC130 around when needed !
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From: Guerner Remi <air.guerner@orange.fr>
opa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2013 5:15 pm
Subject: Europa-List: Europa fly-in - Popham
I am afraid I will not be able to fly to Popham next week end. Have a look
at
the webcam on the airfield where I landed yesterday and you will understand
why:
http://www.aero-club-bordeaux.com/webcams/gwebcams1.aspx
The airfield is now closed. Those guys are untouchable and It may take at l
east
one week before the authorities can force them out, and a few more days to
clean
their trash. What a pitty!
Yes, my aircraft is safely in a locked hangar.
Remi, grounded by NOTAM
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| Subject: | Rotax 914 Parts CD6 and CD7 |
I am building an XS which was originally intended to take a 912, but I have changed
to a 914. As a result, I am missing the aluminum sheet parts CD6 and CD7
which define the air intake compartment. Europa in the UK is still in the middle
of their move, so i cannot get replacement parts right now.
Does anyone have a pattern of the CD6 and CD7 parts, so that I can make up my own
versions? Thanks.
Jerry Fisher
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